Comments on: #40: A higher definition Web with Laszlo

By: russ

russ — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:43:11 +0000

i must say i had nevr heard much about this untill today i think i shall have to take a closer look at lazlo

By: 米育炜的BLOG » Blog Archive » 很酷的邮件服务系统,全部用Flash实现的Laszlo Mail

米育炜的BLOG » Blog Archive » 很酷的邮件服务系统,全部用Flash实现的Laszlo Mail — Thu, 05 Jan 2006 07:06:13 +0000

[...] Scoble介绍了一款很酷的邮件服务系统,全部用Flash实现的Laszlo Mail。无论从软件的界面还是操作来看都与桌面软件相差无异，甚至更炫。当然，这不是最值得介绍的。建立了这个看起来很酷的系统，提供丰富用户界面功能的OpenLaszlo开发平台才值得我们关注。OpenLaszlo的SDK包含了一个Java编写的编译器，一个JavaScript库以及可选的提供额外应用服务的Java servlet。用OpenLaszlo建立的应用可生成为XML和JavaScript(类似于DHTML)，之前所提的Flash，并同时支持不同浏览器。尽管OpenLaszlo属于开源(对于很多人来说是免费的同义词)，仅仅是这样并不足以保证其与Macromedia Flex抗衡。但Scoble说该平台将来会有生成AJAX和.Net的版本，这为其成为下一代网络应用开发平台的热门之选添加不少砝码 [...]

By: Mookie

Mookie — Mon, 21 Nov 2005 18:13:20 +0000

As to Ryan’s ‘poor man’s Flex’ comments… I will go back to my poor mans OS (Linux) and my poor mans browser (Firefox), and find another poor mans publishing system (Blog) to express my criticizing what I don’t know about.

By: Jason

Jason — Sun, 20 Nov 2005 11:36:23 +0000

To Don Hopkins
“Flex is designed to lock you into Flash, plain and simple. It will never support any other runtime”

Not sure where you heard this, or what part of your imagination came up with it, but it is simply not true. A .net version is coming, the framework can be downloaded and adapted to other platforms. You can hook into any web service or http service, can talk to javascript/Java, I could go on but won’t. Macromedia has always been open (compared to MS) and so is Adobe.

“OpenLaszlo is free, Flex is quite expensive”

If you consider an under 1000$ one time fee expensive for a platform of that type, that allows the things it does, then you may want to start rethinking your career choices.

OpenLaszlo can in no way be compared to Flex. I feel much safer using a product that I know will be evolved, having a entire team of paid developers working on a product keeping it up to date, marketing, management, testing, all that provides comfort. I don’t mind paying a fair price for a product; that nurtures the evolution that is required for a product to succeed and help me succeed.

Jason

By: John Dowdell

John Dowdell — Sun, 20 Nov 2005 05:04:29 +0000

“Flex is designed to lock you into Flash, plain and simple. It will never support any other runtime.”

I would hesitate to be so categorical, myself. Granted, the Macromedia Flash Player 8 does offer the most remarkable combination of power and reach of all Virtual Machines running on consumers’ computers (MFP8 surpassed Windows XP Service Pack 2 earlier this month, less than three months after its release!), but the MXML abstraction layer means that it would be reasonable for anyone to try to interpret it within other engines, to whatever abilities such alternate engines might possess.

(On the accessibility post, you might be interested in doing more research, if you only recently learned of the exclusiveness of image-based CAPTCHA. Flash technologies (images, motion, audio and video) do help reach wider audiences than linear English text alone will do, and of course the screenreader issues have been illuminated for three, four years now.)

jd/mm

By: Don Hopkins

Don Hopkins — Sun, 20 Nov 2005 01:43:47 +0000

Here is the most important difference between OpenLaszlo and Flex:

OpenLaszlo is designed to insulate you from Flash, and help you migrate to other technologies like DHTML and .NET as they mature.

Flex is designed to lock you into Flash, plain and simple. It will never support any other runtime.

I think that’s an extremely important difference with long term implications, at least as important than the price (OpenLaszlo is free, Flex is quite expensive) and licensing (OpenLaszlo is open and free as in speech, Flex is closed and restricted).

-Don