How to start an argument on a Microsoft mailing list

Ask “is Xbox 360 a Web 2.0 product?”

Seriously. And there are some good points both pro and con. Think about it. It uses the Internet. It has a new microtransactional based business model. Has a social model where large numbers of people interact with the Web. Has a new architectural model based around rich content types, content discovery, and personalization, and has a new technical model using low/no cost maintenance, simple programming languages, and new delivery mechanisms, particularly around RSS.

But, then, some folks think Web 2.0 doesn’t exist, or worse, that there are traitors in our midst (funny).

Seriously, what do we call the “post dotbomb” Web? Basically that’s what we’re talking about here.

I don’t really care what it’s called, but Web 2.0 is starting to grow on me cause it only takes seven characters to type.

Anyway, looks like Web 2.0 is the argument of the day on memeorandum. Yes, we are a bunch of geeks who don’t have much new to talk about because all the PR folks in the industry are on vacation. Or so it seems. ;-)

Comments

  1. I posted over on Mike’s Crunchnotes that I think Web 2006 would be better or heck shorten it to Web 06 (six chars although that is not web21k compliant). This way it is representative of what’s new on the web and gets away from the silly notion that any such version number exists — or even can ever exist — for something as dynamic as the web.

  2. I posted over on Mike’s Crunchnotes that I think Web 2006 would be better or heck shorten it to Web 06 (six chars although that is not web21k compliant). This way it is representative of what’s new on the web and gets away from the silly notion that any such version number exists — or even can ever exist — for something as dynamic as the web.

  3. Ok while your checking on ajax let us know aboyt bill buxton – (the candian).. :)- expert on – ui – rember he is in …

    “”Microsoft Research division” and not with Windows. In other words, he is not there to redesign Windows, more then likely he is there to redesign the “Look and Feel” that all the Microsoft Interfaces use.

  4. Ok while your checking on ajax let us know aboyt bill buxton – (the candian).. :)- expert on – ui – rember he is in …

    “”Microsoft Research division” and not with Windows. In other words, he is not there to redesign Windows, more then likely he is there to redesign the “Look and Feel” that all the Microsoft Interfaces use.

  5. As good as Live is, it can’t save it. Destroy? You mean marketshare? No way possible. Even the most optimistic fanboy estimates won’t even get it even half of Sony’s marketshare. And then Revolution to further muddy the waters. Great machine all the same, but in terms of marketshare, PS3 will easily destroy 360. That’s not a slight, or a catcall, it’s just hard-nosed reality.

  6. As good as Live is, it can’t save it. Destroy? You mean marketshare? No way possible. Even the most optimistic fanboy estimates won’t even get it even half of Sony’s marketshare. And then Revolution to further muddy the waters. Great machine all the same, but in terms of marketshare, PS3 will easily destroy 360. That’s not a slight, or a catcall, it’s just hard-nosed reality.

  7. Last I heard, the post-dotbomb internet was the same internet we had before. The crash happened five years ago. “Web 2.0″ was coined in the past year as a marketing scam to make some extra cash.

    I’ll keep saying this until the term dies: there is no versioning of the web, so “Web 2.0″ as a term is incorrect purely at face value. That’s not to mention the fact that everything “web 2.0″ has sprung about at various times in the past seven years and as such there really is no time when a switch was made to web 2.0 and for an overwhelming amount of people on the internet (I’d guess close to 95% or so), they’ve missed out on a only “web 1.0″ internet.

  8. Last I heard, the post-dotbomb internet was the same internet we had before. The crash happened five years ago. “Web 2.0″ was coined in the past year as a marketing scam to make some extra cash.

    I’ll keep saying this until the term dies: there is no versioning of the web, so “Web 2.0″ as a term is incorrect purely at face value. That’s not to mention the fact that everything “web 2.0″ has sprung about at various times in the past seven years and as such there really is no time when a switch was made to web 2.0 and for an overwhelming amount of people on the internet (I’d guess close to 95% or so), they’ve missed out on a only “web 1.0″ internet.

  9. Not sure where the term web2.0 come from. I heard it last march for the webcon held in sept. That was the first time I heard it. Secondly, was the the term web2.0 coined form business2.0 ? Which is a publication for nearly 2 and ahlf yrs !!

    For me web2.0 is the term that “we the geeks and community” use to describe innovations, techniques and new methods happing at the technologial plataue. And it revolves around rss/ajax/ and opml. Imho, if the value propoistion has no touch points on any of the 3 above, then its not a web2.0 gadget/widget/platofrm/product !!

    Those three points are critical for catogrization/tag efforts.

  10. Not sure where the term web2.0 come from. I heard it last march for the webcon held in sept. That was the first time I heard it. Secondly, was the the term web2.0 coined form business2.0 ? Which is a publication for nearly 2 and ahlf yrs !!

    For me web2.0 is the term that “we the geeks and community” use to describe innovations, techniques and new methods happing at the technologial plataue. And it revolves around rss/ajax/ and opml. Imho, if the value propoistion has no touch points on any of the 3 above, then its not a web2.0 gadget/widget/platofrm/product !!

    Those three points are critical for catogrization/tag efforts.