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		<title>By: max191</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 06:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: alexbarnett.net blog : MSN Search Champs Podcast - Privacy conversation</title>
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		<dc:creator>alexbarnett.net blog : MSN Search Champs Podcast - Privacy conversation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 20:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#160;attended the&#160;MSN Search Champs today....and what a day.&#160; Given the recent news and concerns around the data MSN Search, Yahoo and AOL provided to the government, there was a session set up where the 57 bloggers / online experts at MSN Search Champ were invited to discuss the topic with senior MSN management (Senior VP Yusuf Mehdi and VP Chris Payne).As Robert Scoble wrote, MSN VP Chris Payne took the opportunity to confirm that no IP address or PII (Personally Identifiable Information) was provided.&#160; It became apparent to me at least, that many (maybe the majority) of the MSN Search Champs didn&#039;t realize this prior to today&#039;s event. I think this misundertanding is one of the reasons there was such a deal and story made front page news in the media and in the blogosphere.And so conversation started.And it carried on into the night, even after the event was over - here&#039;s a podcast (mp3, 42 mins, 10mb) recorded tonight to discuss what we heard and learnt today. We had five Web 2.0 Workgroup members on the podcast: Fred Oliveira&#160;(post), Dion Hinchcliffe&#160;(post), Joshua Porter&#160;(post), and myself. We also had Chris Pirillo, Thomas Vander Wal of Infocloud&#160;the organizer of MSN&#039;s Search Champs, Brady Forrest. Michael Arrington, Richard MacManus and Live Side have some info on their first day at MSN Search Champs.download the podcast (mp3, 42 mins, 10mb)-Update: Thursday 26 2006: One point of clarification since the podcast was provided&#160;to me by&#160;Ramez Naam, director of program management at MSN Search:&#160;the DOJ did not ask&#160;MSN for PII specifically. They asked for&#160;MSN Search logs. MSN told them that&#160;they would not give them PII and they were fine with that. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&nbsp;attended the&nbsp;MSN Search Champs today&#8230;.and what a day.&nbsp; Given the recent news and concerns around the data MSN Search, Yahoo and AOL provided to the government, there was a session set up where the 57 bloggers / online experts at MSN Search Champ were invited to discuss the topic with senior MSN management (Senior VP Yusuf Mehdi and VP Chris Payne).As Robert Scoble wrote, MSN VP Chris Payne took the opportunity to confirm that no IP address or PII (Personally Identifiable Information) was provided.&nbsp; It became apparent to me at least, that many (maybe the majority) of the MSN Search Champs didn&#39;t realize this prior to today&#39;s event. I think this misundertanding is one of the reasons there was such a deal and story made front page news in the media and in the blogosphere.And so conversation started.And it carried on into the night, even after the event was over &#8211; here&#39;s a podcast (mp3, 42 mins, 10mb) recorded tonight to discuss what we heard and learnt today. We had five Web 2.0 Workgroup members on the podcast: Fred Oliveira&nbsp;(post), Dion Hinchcliffe&nbsp;(post), Joshua Porter&nbsp;(post), and myself. We also had Chris Pirillo, Thomas Vander Wal of Infocloud&nbsp;the organizer of MSN&#39;s Search Champs, Brady Forrest. Michael Arrington, Richard MacManus and Live Side have some info on their first day at MSN Search Champs.download the podcast (mp3, 42 mins, 10mb)-Update: Thursday 26 2006: One point of clarification since the podcast was provided&nbsp;to me by&nbsp;Ramez Naam, director of program management at MSN Search:&nbsp;the DOJ did not ask&nbsp;MSN for PII specifically. They asked for&nbsp;MSN Search logs. MSN told them that&nbsp;they would not give them PII and they were fine with that. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: free credit</title>
		<link>http://scobleizer.com/2006/01/25/search-champs-grilling-msn-execs/comment-page-1/#comment-10751</link>
		<dc:creator>free credit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 01:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tetra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tetra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2006 17:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to clear up some stupid points here:

1. The &quot;caving to Chinese censorship is EVIL!&quot; line is a bit naive. Is it distasteful? Absolutely. But, look at how China got to the point where it&#039;s at - further integration with the global market economy saw a further political liberalization within the country. This good and evil split is counter-productive. Global politics are just never that easy.

2. The collection of records isn&#039;t evil or illegal. Phone records? Credit records? Driving record? There&#039;s tons of information available about you and everyone else out there. Unless you live in an information bubble, you&#039;re already out there in the ether. Stop acting so surprised. It&#039;s not the collection that&#039;s the problem, it&#039;s the legal means by which the government is trying to attain it - no matter what kind of records these were (let&#039;s say anonymous phone numbers instead of web sites), it would be noxious for the government to try to drift-net that stuff without proper legal footing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to clear up some stupid points here:</p>
<p>1. The &#8220;caving to Chinese censorship is EVIL!&#8221; line is a bit naive. Is it distasteful? Absolutely. But, look at how China got to the point where it&#8217;s at &#8211; further integration with the global market economy saw a further political liberalization within the country. This good and evil split is counter-productive. Global politics are just never that easy.</p>
<p>2. The collection of records isn&#8217;t evil or illegal. Phone records? Credit records? Driving record? There&#8217;s tons of information available about you and everyone else out there. Unless you live in an information bubble, you&#8217;re already out there in the ether. Stop acting so surprised. It&#8217;s not the collection that&#8217;s the problem, it&#8217;s the legal means by which the government is trying to attain it &#8211; no matter what kind of records these were (let&#8217;s say anonymous phone numbers instead of web sites), it would be noxious for the government to try to drift-net that stuff without proper legal footing.</p>
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		<title>By: Capt B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Capt B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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My name is Captain B. A Capt in Iraq and was inquiring about producing my blog into a book. Man do  I know you probably get a ton of these type of inquiries but I figured what the heck, I have RPGS shot at me, I haven’t seen my family for than 60 day in 2 years why not email these guys. Regardless if you’re about hit “delete”, please support our troops. Semper Fi, Capt B
http://shepherdaway.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello-<br />
My name is Captain B. A Capt in Iraq and was inquiring about producing my blog into a book. Man do  I know you probably get a ton of these type of inquiries but I figured what the heck, I have RPGS shot at me, I haven’t seen my family for than 60 day in 2 years why not email these guys. Regardless if you’re about hit “delete”, please support our troops. Semper Fi, Capt B<br />
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		<title>By: WeBreakStuff &#187; Subpoena: No personal data released</title>
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		<dc:creator>WeBreakStuff &#187; Subpoena: No personal data released</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Alex and Joshua are talking about this as well. Update: Dion and Robert Scoble also have their takes on this. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Alex and Joshua are talking about this as well. Update: Dion and Robert Scoble also have their takes on this. [...]</p>
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