Dave worries about Microsoft

Dave Winer is worried that Microsoft is going to throw its weight around when it comes to RSS. I worry about that too. A lot.

I agree, too, that things have changed. For one, Microsoft is far more transparent than it used to be. If we do something evil you know who to call. I have the head of Internet Explorer team, Dean Hachamovitch on IM and have his cell phone number.

Also, I am here at the Lift conference. During the last session I stood in the back and watched how people were sharing information. Blogs. IM. Email. All live. People are so connected now. If we do something evil it spreads around the world within an hour. Or even faster.

Finally, it takes minutes for this connected world to figure out whether something is good or not. If it isn’t you’ll know and know in a violent manner.

What does this mean? First, if we don’t work with the community we’ll fail. Second, if we don’t have the best products and services, we’ll fail. Third, if we take too long to react to market demands we’ll be left out of the conversation and rendered irrelevant.

Hint: I am using Dave Winer’s aggregator. That said, I wish Dave’s aggregator told the RSS platform when I read a post so that other RSS reading apps on the system (I have several) will know that I read an item already. 

56 thoughts on “Dave worries about Microsoft

  1. Oh bloody wah Robert. You guys got caught doing things wrong and got spanked, and because the IE team felt all bad, they had a temper tantrum and screwed their users. What are you people, 12, and a buncha crybabies? Was the DOJ team lining you all up and hitting you in the face with a basketball while yelling “Come on crybaby, cry, come on, squirt a few, come on, cry for me” I somehow doubt it.

    You stopped all development work on IE because someone hurt your feelings? Wow, it’s a good thing it wasn’t the Active Directory team. I’d love to see that press conference: Bill and SteveB all redfaced and teary, huffing, and yelling, “FINE! JUST….FINE! WE SEE HOW IT IS! We see! You hate us! We tried to be good to you, and you JUST DON’T CARE!! Well, you won’t have Microsoft to push around anymore! We’re LEAVING!! You just SEE how Linux and Apple treat you NOW!” Maybe some profanity yelled over their shoulders as they stomp off.

    As Dennis Leary says, “Life’s tough, wear a helmet”

    As well, I didn’t say a damned thing about the team, or how they felt. Frankly, I don’t care. Their self-esteem is their problem, not mine, not the DOJ’s. if they’re so fragile that they, and the Board-level executives stop work on critical software every time someone criticizes it, then everyone involved in that decision was a bunch of crybabies, and need to suck it up. They didn’t have a problem talking crap about Netscape when they were doing the deeds that got them in trouble. They didn’t have a problem with trash-talking EVERYONE, even when they were blatantly lying. But now, deir feewings are awwl hurty? You want gouda or swiss with that whine?

    Seems to me the Netscape/Mozilla people took the shots, hunkered down, and now we have Firefox. What’s your friggin’ excuse?

    If you’re going to dish it out, you’re going to take it.

    What I said was that there was nothing in the final decision that said MS was forbidden from updating IE to comply with current standards. There was nothing that said they are forbidden from doing the things that make sense.

    Nice try to twist what I said, but again, unlike your opinion of your readers, I’m really not stupid. I’m well able to read what I wrote TWO POSTS UP from yours.

  2. Oh bloody wah Robert. You guys got caught doing things wrong and got spanked, and because the IE team felt all bad, they had a temper tantrum and screwed their users. What are you people, 12, and a buncha crybabies? Was the DOJ team lining you all up and hitting you in the face with a basketball while yelling “Come on crybaby, cry, come on, squirt a few, come on, cry for me” I somehow doubt it.

    You stopped all development work on IE because someone hurt your feelings? Wow, it’s a good thing it wasn’t the Active Directory team. I’d love to see that press conference: Bill and SteveB all redfaced and teary, huffing, and yelling, “FINE! JUST….FINE! WE SEE HOW IT IS! We see! You hate us! We tried to be good to you, and you JUST DON’T CARE!! Well, you won’t have Microsoft to push around anymore! We’re LEAVING!! You just SEE how Linux and Apple treat you NOW!” Maybe some profanity yelled over their shoulders as they stomp off.

    As Dennis Leary says, “Life’s tough, wear a helmet”

    As well, I didn’t say a damned thing about the team, or how they felt. Frankly, I don’t care. Their self-esteem is their problem, not mine, not the DOJ’s. if they’re so fragile that they, and the Board-level executives stop work on critical software every time someone criticizes it, then everyone involved in that decision was a bunch of crybabies, and need to suck it up. They didn’t have a problem talking crap about Netscape when they were doing the deeds that got them in trouble. They didn’t have a problem with trash-talking EVERYONE, even when they were blatantly lying. But now, deir feewings are awwl hurty? You want gouda or swiss with that whine?

    Seems to me the Netscape/Mozilla people took the shots, hunkered down, and now we have Firefox. What’s your friggin’ excuse?

    If you’re going to dish it out, you’re going to take it.

    What I said was that there was nothing in the final decision that said MS was forbidden from updating IE to comply with current standards. There was nothing that said they are forbidden from doing the things that make sense.

    Nice try to twist what I said, but again, unlike your opinion of your readers, I’m really not stupid. I’m well able to read what I wrote TWO POSTS UP from yours.

  3. John: our executives made an explicit decision to not invest in IE after that. Also, former team members tell me they were totally demoralized after that decision came down and wanted to go ANYWHERE else but stay on the team that got the DOJ’s focus on Microsoft.

    It’s interesting that you seem to know so many facts about the team. How many have you interviewed? How many do you know? Do you talk with the head of the Internet Explorer team often? I didn’t realize you did.

  4. John: our executives made an explicit decision to not invest in IE after that. Also, former team members tell me they were totally demoralized after that decision came down and wanted to go ANYWHERE else but stay on the team that got the DOJ’s focus on Microsoft.

    It’s interesting that you seem to know so many facts about the team. How many have you interviewed? How many do you know? Do you talk with the head of the Internet Explorer team often? I didn’t realize you did.

  5. And I worry about Dave. Does he truly think Microsoft CAN dominate the Internet? It hasn’t yet. XML? Microsoft thought it up, and look what Apple did with iTunes. Yes, by volume only, the most computers on the net are running Microsoft. So what? The Net is very anti-Microsoft in fact. Indeed, the Net is very opposed to any organization. So Dave, get over it.

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