EVDO’ing in NJ

Hello from Newark. I had 10 minutes to check my email and make a quick post. In the “pre-EVDO” days I wouldn’t have even bothered to sign in and do this. Why? Cause most airports charge $7 or more just to sign on with Wifi. But now I just slam my new Cingular Aircard into my Tablet PC, sign on, and post away.

While doing that I see that Steve Gillmor wrote a long post about what EVDO means to the world. He repeated his “Office is dead” thing. Steve, you’re still nuts! :-)
Gotta run, they are boarding. Might have more to say later. I have a lot to say but I think I’ll just sit down with Gillmor and show him Office 12. Almost everyone I’ve shown it to is very excited by it. Sorry, you can’t do pivot tables on any Web 2.0 service that I’ve seen so far. And, even though 30 boxes shipped today into beta I still like Outlook’s calendar better. Why? Well, my plane doesn’t have Wifi and doesn’t have EVDO. Not to mention that there’s a network effect from having all my coworkers on Outlook/Exchange.
It’s amazing that being offline for 10 hours means that Memeorandum (still my favorite Memetracker, even though there’ve been a ton of new competitors to come along lately) almost wholly changes. Nice “state of the blogosphere” report from Dave Sifry is now on top. I wonder what’ll be on top when I get to Seattle?

Back to Gillmor, I like your gesture idea. I want ways to deal with even more news flow. My River of News backs up and I want to get 10x the flow I’m getting now (of news items going past my gate).

92 thoughts on “EVDO’ing in NJ

  1. Thanks for repeatedly hyping EVDO. I just got it and it is awesome. I would not have been so easily convinced to take the plunge had it not been for your comments.

  2. Thanks for repeatedly hyping EVDO. I just got it and it is awesome. I would not have been so easily convinced to take the plunge had it not been for your comments.

  3. Thanks for repeatedly hyping EVDO. I just got it and it is awesome. I would not have been so easily convinced to take the plunge had it not been for your comments.

  4. “Scoble actually has an HSDPA card. Only problem is, it only uses HSDPA in something like 3 cities in the US”

    Sorry, you’re right, I wasn’t totally clear. The CARD supports both HSDPA and EDGE, but he was connected to the EDGE network. Cingular has only rolled out HSDPA service in 13 cities, and none of those are in Jersey. (Nor is one NYC, sadly).

  5. “Scoble actually has an HSDPA card. Only problem is, it only uses HSDPA in something like 3 cities in the US”

    Sorry, you’re right, I wasn’t totally clear. The CARD supports both HSDPA and EDGE, but he was connected to the EDGE network. Cingular has only rolled out HSDPA service in 13 cities, and none of those are in Jersey. (Nor is one NYC, sadly).

  6. “Scoble actually has an HSDPA card. Only problem is, it only uses HSDPA in something like 3 cities in the US”

    Sorry, you’re right, I wasn’t totally clear. The CARD supports both HSDPA and EDGE, but he was connected to the EDGE network. Cingular has only rolled out HSDPA service in 13 cities, and none of those are in Jersey. (Nor is one NYC, sadly).

  7. A bit of envy there Coulter? What have you done, besides posting on Bobby’s blog, that compares with what either Gilmor has done? Famous podcasts? Trade rag columns? I Google you and all I get is comments posted to blogs. What makes your opinion so informed?

  8. A bit of envy there Coulter? What have you done, besides posting on Bobby’s blog, that compares with what either Gilmor has done? Famous podcasts? Trade rag columns? I Google you and all I get is comments posted to blogs. What makes your opinion so informed?

  9. A bit of envy there Coulter? What have you done, besides posting on Bobby’s blog, that compares with what either Gilmor has done? Famous podcasts? Trade rag columns? I Google you and all I get is comments posted to blogs. What makes your opinion so informed?

  10. Lisa, it was Steve not Dan. Dan’s busy quitting his citizen journalism “biz” and trying to set up a “think-tank”, to wax on endlessly and take credit without actually having to do anything. Steve “Office is Dead” Gillmor is just a string of meaningless buzzwords wrapped around the age-old ‘network is the computer and the applications” meme. The Boremor Bacon Brothers done in by the Blogs; take hardcore Infoworld and Mercury News potentially investigative journos on the vaporware beat, but they got seduced by all the pretty meme lights, but, in reality, it’s like moths to a bug zapper. I know from the big players and other fellow press, no one takes them seriously anymore. Which is why they have to reach out to the likes of Scoble and ilk.

    With everyone talking EDVO/ HSDPA and EDGE/GPRS, heh, so I guess now the WiFi utopia, power to the pringles-can peoples revolution never happened? ;)

  11. Lisa, it was Steve not Dan. Dan’s busy quitting his citizen journalism “biz” and trying to set up a “think-tank”, to wax on endlessly and take credit without actually having to do anything. Steve “Office is Dead” Gillmor is just a string of meaningless buzzwords wrapped around the age-old ‘network is the computer and the applications” meme. The Boremor Bacon Brothers done in by the Blogs; take hardcore Infoworld and Mercury News potentially investigative journos on the vaporware beat, but they got seduced by all the pretty meme lights, but, in reality, it’s like moths to a bug zapper. I know from the big players and other fellow press, no one takes them seriously anymore. Which is why they have to reach out to the likes of Scoble and ilk.

    With everyone talking EDVO/ HSDPA and EDGE/GPRS, heh, so I guess now the WiFi utopia, power to the pringles-can peoples revolution never happened? ;)

  12. Lisa, it was Steve not Dan. Dan’s busy quitting his citizen journalism “biz” and trying to set up a “think-tank”, to wax on endlessly and take credit without actually having to do anything. Steve “Office is Dead” Gillmor is just a string of meaningless buzzwords wrapped around the age-old ‘network is the computer and the applications” meme. The Boremor Bacon Brothers done in by the Blogs; take hardcore Infoworld and Mercury News potentially investigative journos on the vaporware beat, but they got seduced by all the pretty meme lights, but, in reality, it’s like moths to a bug zapper. I know from the big players and other fellow press, no one takes them seriously anymore. Which is why they have to reach out to the likes of Scoble and ilk.

    With everyone talking EDVO/ HSDPA and EDGE/GPRS, heh, so I guess now the WiFi utopia, power to the pringles-can peoples revolution never happened? ;)

  13. Scoble actually has an HSDPA card. Only problem is, it only uses HSDPA in something like 3 cities in the US”

    LOL, not quite that bad but still only in a dozen markets or so. It’s just starting to ramp up right now. I’ve heard user reports of 512k down and 128k up. Though deployment of 3.5G is limited it will fall back to EDGE/GPRS and that’s pretty much everywhere GSM service is in the States. We’ve been using UTMS in Europe for a while and it’s excellent.

    Bobby, you aren’t using EVDO in Europe, your card is also compatable with UTMS. EVDO is pretty much a North American (and maybe a bit of the Pacific Rim) thing and isn’t likely to become popular in other parts of the world.

  14. Scoble actually has an HSDPA card. Only problem is, it only uses HSDPA in something like 3 cities in the US”

    LOL, not quite that bad but still only in a dozen markets or so. It’s just starting to ramp up right now. I’ve heard user reports of 512k down and 128k up. Though deployment of 3.5G is limited it will fall back to EDGE/GPRS and that’s pretty much everywhere GSM service is in the States. We’ve been using UTMS in Europe for a while and it’s excellent.

    Bobby, you aren’t using EVDO in Europe, your card is also compatable with UTMS. EVDO is pretty much a North American (and maybe a bit of the Pacific Rim) thing and isn’t likely to become popular in other parts of the world.

  15. Scoble actually has an HSDPA card. Only problem is, it only uses HSDPA in something like 3 cities in the US”

    LOL, not quite that bad but still only in a dozen markets or so. It’s just starting to ramp up right now. I’ve heard user reports of 512k down and 128k up. Though deployment of 3.5G is limited it will fall back to EDGE/GPRS and that’s pretty much everywhere GSM service is in the States. We’ve been using UTMS in Europe for a while and it’s excellent.

    Bobby, you aren’t using EVDO in Europe, your card is also compatable with UTMS. EVDO is pretty much a North American (and maybe a bit of the Pacific Rim) thing and isn’t likely to become popular in other parts of the world.

  16. Robert

    I see that yesterday you were only 15 minutes away from Montclair.
    Next time if the flight is delayed maybe we can have lunch or dinner.
    Today’s topic: Microsoft AdCenter
    I got an e-mail from Microsoft wondering why i did not sign yet for the ‘pilot’ of Microsoft Ad Center and instructing me on how to?
    I followed the prompts and everything was pretty smooth until i gor to the set up fee and credit card part.
    I had to go on a search mission for a few minutes in order to guess what the set up fee was ($5.00).
    The contact page showed a phone rep but there was no phone number to call, i did find another lengthy form to fill (which I skipped).I managed to finish the registration process.
    I then went on to read a couple of pages from ‘Naked Conversations’ which i received today.
    Funny how your liner notes related to my frustrating first encounter with Microsoft AD Center.
    Maybe you can share that with your colleagues in charge.

    I enjoyed your photos in Switzerland and giving a test drive to cocomment.

    Have a good day

    Serge
    http://sergetheconcierge.typepad.com

    Website: http://www.njconcierges.com

  17. Robert

    I see that yesterday you were only 15 minutes away from Montclair.
    Next time if the flight is delayed maybe we can have lunch or dinner.
    Today’s topic: Microsoft AdCenter
    I got an e-mail from Microsoft wondering why i did not sign yet for the ‘pilot’ of Microsoft Ad Center and instructing me on how to?
    I followed the prompts and everything was pretty smooth until i gor to the set up fee and credit card part.
    I had to go on a search mission for a few minutes in order to guess what the set up fee was ($5.00).
    The contact page showed a phone rep but there was no phone number to call, i did find another lengthy form to fill (which I skipped).I managed to finish the registration process.
    I then went on to read a couple of pages from ‘Naked Conversations’ which i received today.
    Funny how your liner notes related to my frustrating first encounter with Microsoft AD Center.
    Maybe you can share that with your colleagues in charge.

    I enjoyed your photos in Switzerland and giving a test drive to cocomment.

    Have a good day

    Serge
    http://sergetheconcierge.typepad.com

    Website: http://www.njconcierges.com

  18. Robert

    I see that yesterday you were only 15 minutes away from Montclair.
    Next time if the flight is delayed maybe we can have lunch or dinner.
    Today’s topic: Microsoft AdCenter
    I got an e-mail from Microsoft wondering why i did not sign yet for the ‘pilot’ of Microsoft Ad Center and instructing me on how to?
    I followed the prompts and everything was pretty smooth until i gor to the set up fee and credit card part.
    I had to go on a search mission for a few minutes in order to guess what the set up fee was ($5.00).
    The contact page showed a phone rep but there was no phone number to call, i did find another lengthy form to fill (which I skipped).I managed to finish the registration process.
    I then went on to read a couple of pages from ‘Naked Conversations’ which i received today.
    Funny how your liner notes related to my frustrating first encounter with Microsoft AD Center.
    Maybe you can share that with your colleagues in charge.

    I enjoyed your photos in Switzerland and giving a test drive to cocomment.

    Have a good day

    Serge
    http://sergetheconcierge.typepad.com

    Website: http://www.njconcierges.com

  19. Kublakhan and Alfredo -

    My solution is to get a Pocket PC Phone with ORB.

    I have a 425mhz XScale processor, a bigger, nicer screen than the iPod Video, and I don’t have to worry about disk or memory space. Everywhere I go with Sprint I have an EV-DO connection (usually 300-500kbps) which is plenty for streaming video using Orb.

    Additionally I have a 1GB memory card (could get a 2GB now) with music and a few TV shows for when I’m on a plane. I can’t really think of any other times that I don’t have at least a 1X connection (enough for music), an EV-DO connection (enough for perfect video), or WiFi.

  20. Kublakhan and Alfredo -

    My solution is to get a Pocket PC Phone with ORB.

    I have a 425mhz XScale processor, a bigger, nicer screen than the iPod Video, and I don’t have to worry about disk or memory space. Everywhere I go with Sprint I have an EV-DO connection (usually 300-500kbps) which is plenty for streaming video using Orb.

    Additionally I have a 1GB memory card (could get a 2GB now) with music and a few TV shows for when I’m on a plane. I can’t really think of any other times that I don’t have at least a 1X connection (enough for music), an EV-DO connection (enough for perfect video), or WiFi.

  21. Kublakhan and Alfredo -

    My solution is to get a Pocket PC Phone with ORB.

    I have a 425mhz XScale processor, a bigger, nicer screen than the iPod Video, and I don’t have to worry about disk or memory space. Everywhere I go with Sprint I have an EV-DO connection (usually 300-500kbps) which is plenty for streaming video using Orb.

    Additionally I have a 1GB memory card (could get a 2GB now) with music and a few TV shows for when I’m on a plane. I can’t really think of any other times that I don’t have at least a 1X connection (enough for music), an EV-DO connection (enough for perfect video), or WiFi.

  22. I don’t know why they don’t put hard drives in Pocket PC’s – that would certainly help out.

    I have about 6GB in SD cards (not including my 1GB CF Card) that I store my music and videos on. But, the real question is – Why does the Ipod have so much storage, but such a small screen and limited video decoding capabilities? Popularity isn’t always the best (by the way, last time I checked the Dell Axim the highest price it was at $300 (without GPS).

    If there was ever going to be an alpha multimedia player, it would be as thin as the Nano, have at least 20GB of storage, have a nice big screen, be customizable through software (like linux, or WM5), have a low power consuming chip that is at least 624Mhz (the faster the better – as long as power consumption is at a minimum), and have a USB connector -for those who want more storage (and because of speed).

    P.S. For anyone who likes iTunes, they’re having a billion song countdown and every 100,000 song download gets a free nano…

  23. I don’t know why they don’t put hard drives in Pocket PC’s – that would certainly help out.

    I have about 6GB in SD cards (not including my 1GB CF Card) that I store my music and videos on. But, the real question is – Why does the Ipod have so much storage, but such a small screen and limited video decoding capabilities? Popularity isn’t always the best (by the way, last time I checked the Dell Axim the highest price it was at $300 (without GPS).

    If there was ever going to be an alpha multimedia player, it would be as thin as the Nano, have at least 20GB of storage, have a nice big screen, be customizable through software (like linux, or WM5), have a low power consuming chip that is at least 624Mhz (the faster the better – as long as power consumption is at a minimum), and have a USB connector -for those who want more storage (and because of speed).

    P.S. For anyone who likes iTunes, they’re having a billion song countdown and every 100,000 song download gets a free nano…

  24. I don’t know why they don’t put hard drives in Pocket PC’s – that would certainly help out.

    I have about 6GB in SD cards (not including my 1GB CF Card) that I store my music and videos on. But, the real question is – Why does the Ipod have so much storage, but such a small screen and limited video decoding capabilities? Popularity isn’t always the best (by the way, last time I checked the Dell Axim the highest price it was at $300 (without GPS).

    If there was ever going to be an alpha multimedia player, it would be as thin as the Nano, have at least 20GB of storage, have a nice big screen, be customizable through software (like linux, or WM5), have a low power consuming chip that is at least 624Mhz (the faster the better – as long as power consumption is at a minimum), and have a USB connector -for those who want more storage (and because of speed).

    P.S. For anyone who likes iTunes, they’re having a billion song countdown and every 100,000 song download gets a free nano…

  25. kublakhan, love that comparison. From what I could see, the cheapest Axim with a 624 processor costs 399$ that’s the price of a 60GB iPod! How much storage does the axim have? Yes, it has its advantages but you really have to pay a lot more to get them and with cards toping at 1GB or 2GB you won’t keep too many videos or much music in there… I’m a Pocket PC (Siemens SX 66) and an iPod user and I can say: They do not compared… The best machine to watch videos (the PSP) suffers from the same problem, but at least a hard disk (4GB) can be adapted… Price? 500$ for the PSP and the Hard Disk.
    Why don’t they make a Pocket PC with a Hard Disk?

  26. kublakhan, love that comparison. From what I could see, the cheapest Axim with a 624 processor costs 399$ that’s the price of a 60GB iPod! How much storage does the axim have? Yes, it has its advantages but you really have to pay a lot more to get them and with cards toping at 1GB or 2GB you won’t keep too many videos or much music in there… I’m a Pocket PC (Siemens SX 66) and an iPod user and I can say: They do not compared… The best machine to watch videos (the PSP) suffers from the same problem, but at least a hard disk (4GB) can be adapted… Price? 500$ for the PSP and the Hard Disk.
    Why don’t they make a Pocket PC with a Hard Disk?

  27. kublakhan, love that comparison. From what I could see, the cheapest Axim with a 624 processor costs 399$ that’s the price of a 60GB iPod! How much storage does the axim have? Yes, it has its advantages but you really have to pay a lot more to get them and with cards toping at 1GB or 2GB you won’t keep too many videos or much music in there… I’m a Pocket PC (Siemens SX 66) and an iPod user and I can say: They do not compared… The best machine to watch videos (the PSP) suffers from the same problem, but at least a hard disk (4GB) can be adapted… Price? 500$ for the PSP and the Hard Disk.
    Why don’t they make a Pocket PC with a Hard Disk?

  28. Watching dvd’s on a tablet…uhh no thanks.

    Dell is for hoser’s. Such as yourself.

    I was just curious if Scoble actually does anything besides RSS and email. Seems like his job is just e-mail, and whole lot of blogging.

    No, I’m not saying he’s an edge case :p

  29. Watching dvd’s on a tablet…uhh no thanks.

    Dell is for hoser’s. Such as yourself.

    I was just curious if Scoble actually does anything besides RSS and email. Seems like his job is just e-mail, and whole lot of blogging.

    No, I’m not saying he’s an edge case :p

  30. Watching dvd’s on a tablet…uhh no thanks.

    Dell is for hoser’s. Such as yourself.

    I was just curious if Scoble actually does anything besides RSS and email. Seems like his job is just e-mail, and whole lot of blogging.

    No, I’m not saying he’s an edge case :p

  31. LaBomba, I’m sure Scoble has some way of entertaining himself inflight… ever heard of DVD’s? They’re fun to watch and last really long – good for long flights. And who says you need an Ipod? I despise them. They are a huge rip off. For about the same general price as an only audio playing Ipod you can get a Dell Axim with 624Mhz Chip watch videos and listen to music, play games, and even be productive (with Office). I don’t know about you, but larger screen, more software, and a faster chip capable of decoding h.264 alot better than the Ipod Video (using TCPMP – The Core Pocket Media Player, which is GPLed) sure makes me want to choose the Dell Axim X51v over the Ipod Video or any other Ipod… oh and did I mention GPS interopability?

    Apple really needs to make their Ipod better… more cusomization and better processors – comeon!

  32. LaBomba, I’m sure Scoble has some way of entertaining himself inflight… ever heard of DVD’s? They’re fun to watch and last really long – good for long flights. And who says you need an Ipod? I despise them. They are a huge rip off. For about the same general price as an only audio playing Ipod you can get a Dell Axim with 624Mhz Chip watch videos and listen to music, play games, and even be productive (with Office). I don’t know about you, but larger screen, more software, and a faster chip capable of decoding h.264 alot better than the Ipod Video (using TCPMP – The Core Pocket Media Player, which is GPLed) sure makes me want to choose the Dell Axim X51v over the Ipod Video or any other Ipod… oh and did I mention GPS interopability?

    Apple really needs to make their Ipod better… more cusomization and better processors – comeon!

  33. LaBomba, I’m sure Scoble has some way of entertaining himself inflight… ever heard of DVD’s? They’re fun to watch and last really long – good for long flights. And who says you need an Ipod? I despise them. They are a huge rip off. For about the same general price as an only audio playing Ipod you can get a Dell Axim with 624Mhz Chip watch videos and listen to music, play games, and even be productive (with Office). I don’t know about you, but larger screen, more software, and a faster chip capable of decoding h.264 alot better than the Ipod Video (using TCPMP – The Core Pocket Media Player, which is GPLed) sure makes me want to choose the Dell Axim X51v over the Ipod Video or any other Ipod… oh and did I mention GPS interopability?

    Apple really needs to make their Ipod better… more cusomization and better processors – comeon!

  34. Tim – Scoble actually has an HSDPA card. Only problem is, it only uses HSDPA in something like 3 cities in the US :)

    EV-DO would be the better way to go, since it’s the same speed as HSDPA (usually cheaper), and has much better coverage.

  35. Tim – Scoble actually has an HSDPA card. Only problem is, it only uses HSDPA in something like 3 cities in the US :)

    EV-DO would be the better way to go, since it’s the same speed as HSDPA (usually cheaper), and has much better coverage.

  36. Tim – Scoble actually has an HSDPA card. Only problem is, it only uses HSDPA in something like 3 cities in the US :)

    EV-DO would be the better way to go, since it’s the same speed as HSDPA (usually cheaper), and has much better coverage.

  37. Anyone know what the REAL LIFE speed is with the Cingular card. I’ve been trying to find out from Cingular, but they are really vague. Bottom line: does it seem as fast as cable/good dsl with wi-fi?

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