When is Microsoft going to deliver, blogger asks

Ralph Poole says he’s sick of Channel 9 and me and asks “when are you going to deliver?”

I’m not going to answer this question on my blog. Rather you’ll know this question has been answered when Ralph blogs and says “wow.”

So far this post means we have more work to do.

  • Manny Oscar

    Why did you edit the post?

  • Manny Oscar

    Why did you edit the post?

  • http://scobleizer.wordpress.com/ scobleizer

    Manny: huh? I added onto it within a minute of posting.

  • http://scobleizer.wordpress.com/ scobleizer

    Manny: huh? I added onto it within a minute of posting.

  • http://glpelletier.wordpress.com/ Guy Pelletier

    I agree with Ralph, The need for working solutions are mandatory. Microsoft has a history and still puts out too many patches for the software they deliver. However, I also see a solid effort on Microsoft’s part to identify what the cutomer wants and deliver a solid product.
    As the customer’s right to insist on a working product I am with Ralph in Microsoft’s need to step it up. Given what has been happening lately, i see an improvement.

  • http://glpelletier.wordpress.com/ Guy Pelletier

    I agree with Ralph, The need for working solutions are mandatory. Microsoft has a history and still puts out too many patches for the software they deliver. However, I also see a solid effort on Microsoft’s part to identify what the cutomer wants and deliver a solid product.
    As the customer’s right to insist on a working product I am with Ralph in Microsoft’s need to step it up. Given what has been happening lately, i see an improvement.

  • met

    What has been happening lately, Guy?

  • met

    What has been happening lately, Guy?

  • http://www.damnralph.com/ Ralph

    http://www.damnralph.com/2006/02/09/WOW.aspx

    But you probably didn’t mean me?

  • http://www.damnralph.com Ralph

    http://www.damnralph.com/2006/02/09/WOW.aspx

    But you probably didn’t mean me?

  • http://www.kalbzayn.com/ kalbzayn

    I just read somewhere today that Microsoft is going to start selling their own AntiVirus/Firewall software at a fraction of the cost of the competitors. So, there’s a real deliverable, right?

  • http://www.kalbzayn.com kalbzayn

    I just read somewhere today that Microsoft is going to start selling their own AntiVirus/Firewall software at a fraction of the cost of the competitors. So, there’s a real deliverable, right?

  • http://glpelletier.wordpress.com/ Guy Pelletier

    met, all the world has been happening and it changes everyday.
    Ralph, I meant Ralph Poole’s article that Robert was talking about

  • http://glpelletier.wordpress.com/ Guy Pelletier

    met, all the world has been happening and it changes everyday.
    Ralph, I meant Ralph Poole’s article that Robert was talking about

  • wks

    Ralph whines that “Microsoft” is sitting on their hands and making videos. Yeah, right, like somehow all 64,000 employees are spending all their time doing *that* instead of working on products and solutions. Hey Ralph, Scoble & co. aren’t the entirety of Microsoft!

    Ralph’s rant is completely typical of someone who isn’t actually /paying attention/ to what Microsoft is really doing these days, much less giving due consideration to how difficult is actually is to add features to a product like Internet Explorer that tens (hundreds?) of millions of people use every day, without shipping something that breaks so much legacy stuff that nobody will bother upgrading.

    Plus he really should make sure his own web site works (which it certainly doesn’t right now) before he goes and criticises anyone else on their ability to produce the goods.

  • wks

    Ralph whines that “Microsoft” is sitting on their hands and making videos. Yeah, right, like somehow all 64,000 employees are spending all their time doing *that* instead of working on products and solutions. Hey Ralph, Scoble & co. aren’t the entirety of Microsoft!

    Ralph’s rant is completely typical of someone who isn’t actually /paying attention/ to what Microsoft is really doing these days, much less giving due consideration to how difficult is actually is to add features to a product like Internet Explorer that tens (hundreds?) of millions of people use every day, without shipping something that breaks so much legacy stuff that nobody will bother upgrading.

    Plus he really should make sure his own web site works (which it certainly doesn’t right now) before he goes and criticises anyone else on their ability to produce the goods.

  • Jon

    So, a Windows tax for virus protection. Why not try not writing so many bugs? Isn’t this close to a protection racket? Or will MS get around this by keeping a tame competitor alive? And what’s this about Halo 2 being Vista only?? What possible technical reason can MS give for this, apart from technically it’ll make MS richer?
    And maybe you should look into your companies behaviour in China, Massachusetts, and the NHS (UK) …

  • Jon

    So, a Windows tax for virus protection. Why not try not writing so many bugs? Isn’t this close to a protection racket? Or will MS get around this by keeping a tame competitor alive? And what’s this about Halo 2 being Vista only?? What possible technical reason can MS give for this, apart from technically it’ll make MS richer?
    And maybe you should look into your companies behaviour in China, Massachusetts, and the NHS (UK) …

  • Greg

    I really do like MS – but WHY would I want to buy an anti-virus solution from the company whose product (OS) created the problem? If MS is going to get into Antivius – it ought to be a FREE program. Why should I pay extra for correcting errors and omissions?

  • Greg

    I really do like MS – but WHY would I want to buy an anti-virus solution from the company whose product (OS) created the problem? If MS is going to get into Antivius – it ought to be a FREE program. Why should I pay extra for correcting errors and omissions?

  • Christopher Coulter

    Microsoft won’t ever deliver, not what it promises. Oh it will deliver (great products in fact), but it’s always less than the sum of the marketing-run-up parts.

  • Christopher Coulter

    Microsoft won’t ever deliver, not what it promises. Oh it will deliver (great products in fact), but it’s always less than the sum of the marketing-run-up parts.

  • Eric D Stoever

    Sure it’s important if Ralph says wow. For me, it’s much more important when my customers say wow, as a result of using Microsoft technologies.

    Look at the pace of change that the base of Microsoft business customers can accept. Is Microsoft moving fater than that pace of change? I would argue that overall the answer is yes.

    Are there places where the pace could be faster, more focused? Yes.

    Does Microsoft know it? Yes.

    Is it easy to bash Mirosoft and its people for not having 20/20 foresight? Mr. Poole, who is already using the collaborative technologies he yearns to see shows the answer is yes.

    It’s pretty damn easy to berate, to demand, to pound those fists. It’s far more difficult to satisfy the hundreds of thousands of customers and most of the worlds governments at the same time. But Microsoft tries to do it every day. Not perfectly, but with sincere passion.

    This isn’t an apology for Microsoft. Rather a plea to put the context around the discussion. It’s a really cool discussion to have.

    And it involves more than antivirus software…

  • Eric D Stoever

    Sure it’s important if Ralph says wow. For me, it’s much more important when my customers say wow, as a result of using Microsoft technologies.

    Look at the pace of change that the base of Microsoft business customers can accept. Is Microsoft moving fater than that pace of change? I would argue that overall the answer is yes.

    Are there places where the pace could be faster, more focused? Yes.

    Does Microsoft know it? Yes.

    Is it easy to bash Mirosoft and its people for not having 20/20 foresight? Mr. Poole, who is already using the collaborative technologies he yearns to see shows the answer is yes.

    It’s pretty damn easy to berate, to demand, to pound those fists. It’s far more difficult to satisfy the hundreds of thousands of customers and most of the worlds governments at the same time. But Microsoft tries to do it every day. Not perfectly, but with sincere passion.

    This isn’t an apology for Microsoft. Rather a plea to put the context around the discussion. It’s a really cool discussion to have.

    And it involves more than antivirus software…

  • http://the-enginerd.blogspot.com/ Anand

    I am sure it won’t be long before Ralph says “wow!”

  • http://the-enginerd.blogspot.com Anand

    I am sure it won’t be long before Ralph says “wow!”

  • http://btwohig.wordpress.com/ Bradley Twohig

    In about the same amount of time that it has taken to rollout Windows Vista?…For Microsoft’s sake I hope not, but its nice for the little guys.

  • http://btwohig.wordpress.com Bradley Twohig

    In about the same amount of time that it has taken to rollout Windows Vista?…For Microsoft’s sake I hope not, but its nice for the little guys.

  • Keith Patrick

    So far, I’ll say I’m a bit sceptical myself. I know the software will eventually be released and have a great look with easy-to-use functionality, but the stability of some of the most recent MS offerings (MSN and VS) have left me with a feeling of still using a CTP. The transparency is great and all, but the finished product has been lacking finish as of late, IMO. I guess that’s what patches are for, but the ability to autopatch shouldn’t be a crutch to make a deadline (as an example, I’ve had Xbox Live autoupdate twice & CoD2 autoupdate once, and it’s only 2 1/2 months into the life cycle of the console).

  • Keith Patrick

    So far, I’ll say I’m a bit sceptical myself. I know the software will eventually be released and have a great look with easy-to-use functionality, but the stability of some of the most recent MS offerings (MSN and VS) have left me with a feeling of still using a CTP. The transparency is great and all, but the finished product has been lacking finish as of late, IMO. I guess that’s what patches are for, but the ability to autopatch shouldn’t be a crutch to make a deadline (as an example, I’ve had Xbox Live autoupdate twice & CoD2 autoupdate once, and it’s only 2 1/2 months into the life cycle of the console).

  • Christopher Coulter

    Wow, someone mentioned the 360. Boy, that has to be the world’s biggest flameout in console gaming history. Maybe 1-2 years will pick up, but the buzz is frozen solid cold. (Insert obligatory “but-it-takes-time”, “long-tail Version 3″ Microsoft quote here). Irony tho, can’t release Halo 3 until they get supply chain management problems in order.

    The lesson here? Vista should play up games, I see a PC game revival trend uptick. Hardcores are getting bored with consoles, casuals becoming more casual. And MMOG and RTS, PC strongholds are fronting upwards. Least the pulse as I see it, all lately reminding me of the Starcraftian LAN Party era.

  • Christopher Coulter

    Wow, someone mentioned the 360. Boy, that has to be the world’s biggest flameout in console gaming history. Maybe 1-2 years will pick up, but the buzz is frozen solid cold. (Insert obligatory “but-it-takes-time”, “long-tail Version 3″ Microsoft quote here). Irony tho, can’t release Halo 3 until they get supply chain management problems in order.

    The lesson here? Vista should play up games, I see a PC game revival trend uptick. Hardcores are getting bored with consoles, casuals becoming more casual. And MMOG and RTS, PC strongholds are fronting upwards. Least the pulse as I see it, all lately reminding me of the Starcraftian LAN Party era.

  • Innocent Bystander

    I suspect it will be more along the lines of YAWN.

  • Innocent Bystander

    I suspect it will be more along the lines of YAWN.

  • http://brandonlive.com/ Brandon Paddock

    Chris – what the hell are you talking about? The 360 is as hot as ever. Sometimes I think you live in your own little world.

  • http://brandonlive.com Brandon Paddock

    Chris – what the hell are you talking about? The 360 is as hot as ever. Sometimes I think you live in your own little world.

  • Mujibur

    No Brandon — Chris is right.

    The supply-chain issues have done a lot of damage as Microsoft has already lost this generation. It hasn’t succeeded in Japan and hasn’t achieved the penetration required to stave off PS3 in Europe and the States.

    With game budgets now in the tens of millions of dollars, are Japanese developers going to create games just for the US or are they going to spread those development dollars across geographies? In the states, more and more people are saying they’ll wait for the PS3 before buying a new console.

    I hate being negative about the 360 as it’s a good product; IBM deserves the blame, not Microsoft.

  • Mujibur

    No Brandon — Chris is right.

    The supply-chain issues have done a lot of damage as Microsoft has already lost this generation. It hasn’t succeeded in Japan and hasn’t achieved the penetration required to stave off PS3 in Europe and the States.

    With game budgets now in the tens of millions of dollars, are Japanese developers going to create games just for the US or are they going to spread those development dollars across geographies? In the states, more and more people are saying they’ll wait for the PS3 before buying a new console.

    I hate being negative about the 360 as it’s a good product; IBM deserves the blame, not Microsoft.

  • BlogReader

    What exactly is someone going to go “wow” over that comes out of Redmond? Their current “wow” thing is a 1st person shooter … a genre that got dull (for me) 4 years ago with Counter Strike.

    One really can’t make an OS exciting. Nor a spreadsheet. Well unless it starts getting all bits of info on the local file server and assembles them into something resembling a budget. Now that I would go wow over.

    I take that back: I am going ‘wow” over Microsoft’s voicing of trying to make the next version of IE support CSS standards. Never thought I would see that happen. Course that’s like saying “wow” over a repeat offender not going back to jail.

  • BlogReader

    What exactly is someone going to go “wow” over that comes out of Redmond? Their current “wow” thing is a 1st person shooter … a genre that got dull (for me) 4 years ago with Counter Strike.

    One really can’t make an OS exciting. Nor a spreadsheet. Well unless it starts getting all bits of info on the local file server and assembles them into something resembling a budget. Now that I would go wow over.

    I take that back: I am going ‘wow” over Microsoft’s voicing of trying to make the next version of IE support CSS standards. Never thought I would see that happen. Course that’s like saying “wow” over a repeat offender not going back to jail.

  • Jon

    “Chris – what the hell are you talking about? The 360 is as hot as ever.”

    Hot as ever? As in overheating power supplies?

  • Jon

    “Chris – what the hell are you talking about? The 360 is as hot as ever.”

    Hot as ever? As in overheating power supplies?

  • Jon

    “So, a Windows tax for virus protection. Why not try not writing so many bugs? Isn’t this close to a protection racket?”

    You’ve nailed it. The virus protection from MS strikes me as a legalized protection racket.

  • Jon

    “So, a Windows tax for virus protection. Why not try not writing so many bugs? Isn’t this close to a protection racket?”

    You’ve nailed it. The virus protection from MS strikes me as a legalized protection racket.

  • http://www.bynkii.com/ John C. Welch

    I’m still waiting for that astounding interoperability revelations that Robert SWORE I would see at the PDC. A single demo of WPF/E on Safari is *not* astounding, unless it was that Windows people even know what Safari it. Still not seeing astounding.

    Still waiting for documentation on WPF/E. I gave up on checking really, it’s so pathetically obvious that WPF/E will be one of those “oh, we couldn’t get it done in time, but since you spent all the money planning for it, you just start building WPF applications, we’ll get that cross platform stuff done before the Sun goes nova, really…NOT”.

    Once again, Microsoft over – promises, under – delivers. Some days I think the Mac BU is the only unit within Microsoft CAPABLE of doing things the right way.

  • http://www.bynkii.com/ John C. Welch

    I’m still waiting for that astounding interoperability revelations that Robert SWORE I would see at the PDC. A single demo of WPF/E on Safari is *not* astounding, unless it was that Windows people even know what Safari it. Still not seeing astounding.

    Still waiting for documentation on WPF/E. I gave up on checking really, it’s so pathetically obvious that WPF/E will be one of those “oh, we couldn’t get it done in time, but since you spent all the money planning for it, you just start building WPF applications, we’ll get that cross platform stuff done before the Sun goes nova, really…NOT”.

    Once again, Microsoft over – promises, under – delivers. Some days I think the Mac BU is the only unit within Microsoft CAPABLE of doing things the right way.

  • Christopher Coulter

    I am in my little own world? No siree, you Brandon are in your little own Redmond Reality Distortion Zone. No stores around here, North Cal, have any 360s STILL, and jokesters at my local Gamestop even have a goofy neon ‘No Vacancy’ sign, next to the Xbox 360 kiosk. It’s already a joke, for a generation or two. You need to tap into the Game Developer market and pick up on the gossip, they are livid, actually that’s way way too mild of a word. But boy, I can’t wait till in my “own little world” I can waltz to Wallyworld and ACTUALLY BUY ONE OF THE BUGGERS. I am more hot under collar than normal, as I was one of the pre-order scammed “dupes”, got my money back though.

    Take a gander at not even 5 minutes worth of a Xbox 360 headlines search…

    “Pachter: Game Market Down 3% in 2006, Xbox 360 to Blame”, “Chinese analyst: Xbox 360 will fail”, “The waiting game – console gaming on hold while world awaits PS3″, “Xbox 360 Delayed In Asia and Australia”, Atari Posts Net Loss,: Slow Holiday Season and Xbox 360 Mishaps said to Blame”, “Game Developers Very Uneasy over Xbox 360 Apathy”, “Xbox 360: Future Platinum Turkey?”, “Xbox flop in Japan Achieves Mythical Proportions”, “Majesco cancels Xbox 360 Demonik and Taxi Driver”, “Microsoft Abandons 360 Sale Target”, “Analyst: Xbox Live Strategy Misguided”…and so on and so forth…

  • Christopher Coulter

    I am in my little own world? No siree, you Brandon are in your little own Redmond Reality Distortion Zone. No stores around here, North Cal, have any 360s STILL, and jokesters at my local Gamestop even have a goofy neon ‘No Vacancy’ sign, next to the Xbox 360 kiosk. It’s already a joke, for a generation or two. You need to tap into the Game Developer market and pick up on the gossip, they are livid, actually that’s way way too mild of a word. But boy, I can’t wait till in my “own little world” I can waltz to Wallyworld and ACTUALLY BUY ONE OF THE BUGGERS. I am more hot under collar than normal, as I was one of the pre-order scammed “dupes”, got my money back though.

    Take a gander at not even 5 minutes worth of a Xbox 360 headlines search…

    “Pachter: Game Market Down 3% in 2006, Xbox 360 to Blame”, “Chinese analyst: Xbox 360 will fail”, “The waiting game – console gaming on hold while world awaits PS3″, “Xbox 360 Delayed In Asia and Australia”, Atari Posts Net Loss,: Slow Holiday Season and Xbox 360 Mishaps said to Blame”, “Game Developers Very Uneasy over Xbox 360 Apathy”, “Xbox 360: Future Platinum Turkey?”, “Xbox flop in Japan Achieves Mythical Proportions”, “Majesco cancels Xbox 360 Demonik and Taxi Driver”, “Microsoft Abandons 360 Sale Target”, “Analyst: Xbox Live Strategy Misguided”…and so on and so forth…

  • http://blog.macb.net macbeach

    “I hate being negative about the 360 as it’s a good product; IBM deserves the blame, not Microsoft.”

    First I’ve heard that. How is IBM to blame?

    I’m not averse to blaiming IBM in general though. I still blame them for giving the OS business to Microsoft.

  • http://macbeach.blogspot.com Mac Beach

    “I hate being negative about the 360 as it’s a good product; IBM deserves the blame, not Microsoft.”

    First I’ve heard that. How is IBM to blame?

    I’m not averse to blaiming IBM in general though. I still blame them for giving the OS business to Microsoft.