61 thoughts on “IE 7 getting some props from security expert

  1. I kinda agree wit John, Jaseone and Scottie. It’s just inexplicable that IE was made to languish like it was. And Robert, hate to break it to you, but the whole explanation of the team being ‘demoralized’ is rather weak.

    Microsoft screwed up. Big time. IE7 is a step, no doubt, in the right direction – but there are other aspects for which Microsoft’s record is spotty at best – keeping the software up to date (Feature wise) even after ff/opera are no longer threats (in an admitedly outlandish scenario), embracing standards and security (or lack thereof) because of tight integration with the OS.

  2. I kinda agree wit John, Jaseone and Scottie. It’s just inexplicable that IE was made to languish like it was. And Robert, hate to break it to you, but the whole explanation of the team being ‘demoralized’ is rather weak.

    Microsoft screwed up. Big time. IE7 is a step, no doubt, in the right direction – but there are other aspects for which Microsoft’s record is spotty at best – keeping the software up to date (Feature wise) even after ff/opera are no longer threats (in an admitedly outlandish scenario), embracing standards and security (or lack thereof) because of tight integration with the OS.

  3. Robert, the team didn’t make that decision, people at a higher level did. Are they still in a position at MS to make any decisions other than when to change the mop water?

  4. Robert, the team didn’t make that decision, people at a higher level did. Are they still in a position at MS to make any decisions other than when to change the mop water?

  5. Why is it so hard for a company such as Microsoft with a mind blowing amount of resources at it’s disposal to make a standards compliant browser? I just don’t get why IE7 is just a step towards standards complianceit just doesn’t make sense.

  6. Why is it so hard for a company such as Microsoft with a mind blowing amount of resources at it’s disposal to make a standards compliant browser? I just don’t get why IE7 is just a step towards standards complianceit just doesn’t make sense.

  7. >What assurances does anyone have that the next time someone says something mean about IE that they’re not going to take their ball and go home again

    It’s almost wholly a different team.

  8. >What assurances does anyone have that the next time someone says something mean about IE that they’re not going to take their ball and go home again

    It’s almost wholly a different team.

  9. Scottie: have you tried the latest ASP.NET? I don’t think you have. It does a LOT better job following Web standards.

    IE 7 is going to take a step toward standards compliance. It won’t be perfect, though, but the team is going in the right direction there.

  10. Scottie: have you tried the latest ASP.NET? I don’t think you have. It does a LOT better job following Web standards.

    IE 7 is going to take a step toward standards compliance. It won’t be perfect, though, but the team is going in the right direction there.

  11. I have to agree with most of what John has been saying.

    Simply put, Why hasn’t IE6 followed most of the standards that were laid out by the W3C (back in the later part of the 1990′s and early in 2000.)? MS is an active part of this consortium. As a web developer, I constantly have to work around issues, bugs, etc, to get my sites to work in IE. It’s a joke really. We code it to work in FF, and then “make it” work or IE. The only reason people put up with this is because IE has the largest part of the browser marketshare.

    And ASP.NET and the Visual Studio tools don’t make this job ANY easier. All these tools do, is BLOAT up my HTML with extraneous tags, etc. How is this making the web any faster? It’s better just use a old text based editor, and hand-roll the code, than to use these tools.

    And now, we have “conditional comments”. Man, now I have to “undo” my CSS hacks that have been working for years now, and add in conditional comments??? WTF?

    Why didn’t MS bring IE at LEAST up to half-a-decade old standards?

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