Better mail than jail

NOTHING BUT PUNKS, CRYING ON THE INTERNET AGAIN. WHY IS THERE SO MUCH CRYING ON THIS ONE AND THAT ONE (BLOGS). I AM TRIED OF I HATE YOU AND I HATE YOU. BE A MAN DO SOMETHING BETTER WITH YOUR TIME, GO GET A LINUX MAKE SOME MONEY OF THEIR, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO. MEANING IF THE SHOE WAS ON THE OTHER FOOT WHO WOULD BE CRYING THEN, THE SAME OLD GEEKS, WEARING THE SOME OLD PANTS. AND GOOD FOR YOU SCOBLE, TELLING HIM HE COULD GO AND **** HISSELF IN SUCH A GOOD MANOR. (“Personally I’m glad that Roy is an advocate for non-Microsoft technologies. I’d hate it if he was using these kinds of tactics on our side of the fence.

If I ever see a Microsoft advocate treat someone advocating another platform this way I’ll personally rail on them. That’s not a tactic that’s acceptable”.)

I havent watched all 500 no sir.

Hey it was just a little critique on your videos.

I thought you were a professional videographer ( as in getting paid to shoot) and post work is just s important as shooting.

No, the conversation is what’s important. Not the video quality. I’m not trying to compete with MTV.

Guys,

Let’s cut to the short of all this: Robert isn’t a techie. He’s an user who understands tech, and in that there is gold.

You see, Robert is an observer. He has the ability to step back and see if a piece of tech, or a business practice, really fits into the larger picture. Robert does this with honesty and humor most other tehnologists seem to lack. That is Robert’s contribution to the “technification” process.

No perspection obtainable by a human is ever completely objective. There are so many things in life that influence how we perceive things without our even being aware of the influence. One of Robert’s traits that has earned my respect is the apparent willingness to question even his own viewpoint. We live in a world where perceived reality can change overnight. Anyone in a position like Robert’s has to be willing to recalculate his perspective at a moment’s notice.

That having been said, yes, he does tend to “gush” over us techies. But then, so does Leo LaPorte.

MTV?

I tried to say that I don’t have the time to watch 1 hour videos that could be shorter.
Thats all, thats my take.I just dont have the time. Thats fine.
I know that a lot of video pod casters do a bit minimal of editing for time

MTV?
Jeez.
not what i was getting at at all.

Robert Scoble isn’t Microsoft, nor is he the head of Microsoft PR or even what passes for development there. He is simply a blogger who works for Microsoft who has also co-authored a book on blogging.
I find it inappropriate to attack Mr. Scoble if one has issues with Microsoft. For example I think that the entire SharePoint and Internet Explorer teams should be fired if not publicly burned at the stake, yet I don’t hold Robert responsible for their criminal ineptitude.
Bottom Line: Leave Robert alone unless he does anymore of those naked photo shoots with Shel Israel.

James: I understand. I don’t do the videos for you. I do them for people who care about the topic enough to watch a one hour video. There are other places to learn about our technologies in far less time. And don’t take that as an offense.

Mike: thanks! But, when you’re on top you’re hated. The same way people hate the Yankees. It comes with the job.

Robert,

A huge chunk of the problem is when you ask someone at MS working on a specific tech or talking about that tech, and you ask them about interoperability with similar implementations of the same idea, and it becomes ridiculously obvious that they not only don’t know anything concrete, but they don’t even know that there IS other tech. For example, my exchange at:

http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=165579

I mean holy crap, I don’t expect ernie to know all the details on Zeroconf, but he doesn’t even know that it’s been shipping in printers for the last two years? Or that it’s more than just a printer tech?

How in the hell am i supposed to take the Vista team seriously when this is the kind of interface I get? Do they even know what the heck is going on in the rest of the computing world, or are they so ignorant that they believe no one has been working on anything that they have as well?

I mean, it would explain a lot, because there are days you’d swear that the Windows folks think they are the only people working on OS’s in the world.

It’s a serious problem. If I have to explain the basics of IETF standards that I need Vista to be able to function with, then I’m not going to be able to take their answers seriously, because I know they literally don’t know what they are talking about.

That, by the way, does not make me want to recommend deploying Vista anytime before the first SR release, and yes, I actually DO have that kind of job.

I need to know that Vista engineers are indeed not just aware they aren’t the only OS designers on the planet, but that they are up to speed on what the rest of the world is doing, and that interoperating is NOT being defined ala 1995, i.e. “Just replace everything with Windows and it will all magically be better”. Because if I’m not, I’ll be pushing to hold of on Vista until Longhorn server is available and has a SR release out, so that we have time to make sure that Vista is capable of working with non-windows OS’s properly.

I’m not the only IT person that needs to know this, but I can tell you that MS has done a craptacular job with that message.

MS needs us for Vista FAR more than we need Vista. We write the checks, and MS better start answering our questions a lot better if they want more of those.

Robert, I honestly don’t see why you even respond to someone who hides behind the name Goebbels without a link. Does anyone here know who Goebbels was? How can any sane person use that name?

It was a vicious, unprovoked personal attack, and I feel sorry for Robert, but let’s face facts here. Robert Scoble is paid $100K per year plus bonuses to portray Microsoft in a positive light.

Advocates trying to break free of the Microsoft stranglehold of the industry seem to need a (personal) target to attack. This one seems to have chosen Scoble as that target.

But Scoble, as an evangelist for Microsoft, is paid to be a target. It’s a bit like celebrities not liking their photo taken. For better or worse, it comes with the job.

Anon: please go and look at the security stats for Windows Server 2003 and compare to the other operating systems out there. Your data is incorrect.

Great. Show me a your marketing data so that as an engineer I can refute it. Let’s start with one thing: marketshare is not a signal of quality, so skip the sales data. Let’s talk features, scabality and cost.

BTW, are you ///really/// qualified to say whether there is a backdoor in Windows Vista or not?

As I remember it, there was a backdoor in Frontpage that Microsoft management didn’t even know about until years later.

Sorry Robert – small misunderstanding here – I think that your use of WordPress is just fine. My dasBlog suggestions was actually a reply to Brian’s question (http://scobleizer.wordpress.com/2006/03/04/better-mail-than-jail/#comment-17702) as an alternative to DotNetNuke.

I think it’s incredible that a few people here have written a 5 paragraph essay in reply here. I think I randomly viewed a channel 9 video in early September, and it was not too good of video quality. So to me, it seemed as though you, Robert, were some random Joe and snuck in, because the delvelopers didn’t seem keen on talking. So I was like who is this guy trying to be?

Then when I caught a few posts after that on here. I was like who is this guy, he needs to just shut up. Well a few days later I found out you really do work at Microsoft, and have various connections. So I think it is almost funny what Roy did. When I did a write-up about coComment, a few people had basically ripped me off and now they basically think as themselves as mini-Scoble’s. But they don’t really know what they are saying because they have a few errors per post, and it annoys me royally.

Anon: you totally misunderstand my role here. I’m +not+ qualified. But, I do know who is. And I’ve spent more than an hour with them. And they say that the idea that they’d — on purpose — put a back door into Windows Vista is just plain nuts. And, talking with other people who THINK about software development, that point of view is verified. But you’ll soon be able to see an interview I did with the team so you’ll be able to judge my role for yourself.

Geektalker. I make less than $100,000 a year in salary. Hope that helps.

Anon: that data is out on the Internet on sites that track security vulnerabilities. Why don’t you learn how to use Google. Why should I teach you how to do that?

Robert, when I met you at Mindcamp, I said, “I didn’t know there would be luminaries here!” And you said, “Where?”

I think the whole concept of reputation in blogging is fundamentally flawed. Certainly this is a matter of your “stardom” and whether it’s merited, a line of thinking that is also dubious. Like Charles Bukowski said of his writing critics: Why don’t they read something else? Teenagers learn these politics on livejournal and myspace: After enough practice, you can stop reading someone’s words… without even announcing it to the world! Without even ripping them down! Some adults apparently have a lengthier emotional process to work through. Let me help you out: What makes a person interesting is what they love. It’s a big folksonomy, people. Big enough for you and me to forget each other exists. No rant needed. Microsoft is not in trouble when people rant and huff out. Microsoft’s in trouble the day nobody cares what they say.

Robert, when I met you at Mindcamp, I said, “I didn’t know there would be luminaries here!” And you said, “Where?”

I think the whole concept of reputation in blogging is fundamentally flawed. Certainly this is a matter of your “stardom” and whether it’s merited, a line of thinking that is also dubious. Like Charles Bukowski said of his writing critics: Why don’t they read something else? Teenagers learn these politics on livejournal and myspace: After enough practice, you can stop reading someone’s words… without even announcing it to the world! Without even ripping them down! Some adults apparently have a lengthier emotional process to work through. Let me help you out: What makes a person interesting is what they love. It’s a big folksonomy, people. Big enough for you and me to forget each other exists. No rant needed. Microsoft is not in trouble when people rant and huff out. Microsoft’s in trouble the day nobody cares what they say.

John: exactly! Being on the A lister doesn’t matter one whit. We couldn’t keep TechCrunch from jumping to the top and he only started seven months ago.

We ?

Ok, just because you support Microsoft doesn’t make you evil, nor does it make you a techie. I haven’t read enough of your postings to tell just what you are, nor do I care all that much, because if we ever meet, that’s when I will most likely find out.

That said, given what I have read, this guy’s a joke. His site design sucks, mainly due to how much graphics he has and how tough the text is to read. Worse, the flashy graphics look like they were done by a third grader that snorted mommy’s coke while smoking daddies pot at the same time – a big mess. You may not have flashier graphics, but at least I can read your blog, and you aren’t wasting my time by sputtering stupid.

You may have wasted your own time defending yourself to an idiot like this, but mainly because this loser didn’t deserve the response.

“Goebbels: implied, not alleged.”

I can’t help it if you can’t rad. The BBCarticle clearly talks aboutwho thinks the Brit gov’t should talk to Microsoft about adding a backdoor. You said he said there IS a backdoor. I don’t care about your failure to comprehend. Don’t suggest that I can’t read or understandwhat was implied or alleged when you clearly state something which is UNTRUE.

The name Goebbels is a synonym for Untrue.. that is if you know history. And if you do, it’s a tasteless choice of a handle.

Ahh, I can see Goebbels where you’re coming from. But, you’re being pedantic. Any one of my readers can click on that link and see what he actually said. It’s pretty clear there was at least the implication that there’d be a back door in Vista. But, you’re right on the face of it. Sorry.