Tim O’Reilly says ASP.NET is on a roll

Alot is to be said for C & C++ and even the old VB !
There is still a place in todays world for these old dinosaurs !!

I agree, web 2.0 is new world!

I’m a big fan of ASP and would also definately agree WEB 2.0 is the way forward

I use WEB 2.0 – it’s not the best, but it works for me.

hi,
Well I hear and see other things – that linux is use more.

Web 2.0 has always worked very well for us. No complaints

I am learning ASP.NET at the moment and so far i am really pleased with my progress. I hope one day i am a top ASP programmer. My background to date has been php.

Php is good but ASP is so much better for windows applications in my eyes.

I am looking to get a website made, whats going to be best Asp or PHP? any advice

Am also interested in moving to asp. Is it true google cant index asp pages?

With all of the buzz about Ruby on Rails and AJAX, not a lot of people have noticed that Microsoft is making another really good run at the web development space. Based on book sales data, it looks like ASP.Net 2.0 is on fire, with ASP-related book sales up 53% since the same period a year ago, versus PHP, down 3%, and JSP, down 25%. Of course, Ruby on Rails didn’t exist a year ago, and it now represents a market that is 1/6 the size of the PHP and ASP book markets, and all that generated by a single book (versus 50-60 titles each for PHP and ASP.) Still, our numbers indicate a *lot* of enthusiasm for ASP 2.0.

What’s particularly interesting is the way that Microsoft is reaching out to attract PHP, JSP and Cold Fusion developers. They’ve engaged both O’Reilly and Dr. Dobb’s Journal to co-produce an ASP 2.0 training center, on the theory that we’re going to be better than they are at reaching out to non-Microsoft developers. And rather than just the usual product pitches, they’ve actually asked us to provide information on interoperability between these various web programming toolsets. (As an incentive to get folks to try ASP.Net 2.0, they’re also offering a free copy of Visual Studio 2005 to anyone who listens to three of the webcasts they’ve put on the site.)

The book sales data I referred to is from our research data mart, which includes data from Nielsen Bookscan’s point of sale data service, plus other information we’ve spidered off the net. One of the principal visualization tools we use is a treemap, in which the size of a square represents the relative size of a category, and the color represents the rate of change (green for up, red for down, black for unchanged, with the intensity proportional to the rate). Here’s the treemap showing sales of books on web development technologies compared to a year ago. (Note that this treemap doesn’t just include server-side development technologies like ASP, JSP, and PHP, but also pure client side technologies like Javascript — which, due to the AJAX phenomenon, has jumped even more radically than ASP.)

See Book Sales as a Technology Trend Indicator for a more detailed description of our technique.

I’d be really interested to hear from PHP and JSP developers who do try out ASP.Net 2.0. Does Microsoft really have something here? Or is it still just a product that is going to be adopted only by the Microsoft developer community. They are paying attention. I’d love to see some effort paid to giving them some substantial feedback on their interoperability efforts, and the product in general.

These are interesting times for Microsoft. They are no longer the undoubted king of the hill, and like IBM before them, they are embarking on a brave new voyage of exploration of what it means to be part of an ecosystem rather than just the top predator in it.

I have used apache and others and now wouldnt use anything else but apache. Seems to run smoother and less bugs than the others

ASP is a technology that was created by Microsoft as a scripting language for the web. I personally think Java, Ruby on Rail, AJAX and PHP will be the popular choice in the future. The way Microsoft is starting to feel the heat from Linux recent popularity and advancement, I don’t think, Microsoft ASP will last for long anymore than .NET. Google is completely based on AJAX and Javascript. Guess what, Google Rocks. You can chat while you are checking your email without ever downloading and installing standalone program on your computer. So, ASP.NET I don’t think is going be as popular as they make it out to be. From the way Microsoft is going after Linux company and Linux user for patent infringement, they aren’t going to around much longer.

What about Web 3.0? How far ahead should we look?

I would say that PHP are easier to work with. I have tried both and deff prefer PHP no doubth.

I am just starting out with building webpages but I have found the php is very useful for me when I am building my web pages. I have not tried ASP but will take a good look at it in the future.

hm im not sure, I have never tried to code in ASP. I think I prefer to use my energi on PHP rather then trying on ASP ..

mic