Better mail than jail…

Dominic Jones: Something must really have gotten up [Scoble's] nose. Perhaps a dose of truth?
Phil Sim: I really am quite aghast at Robert Scoble's latest post, following on from the Vista controversy. (Scoble's note: who said a Naked Conversation can't be heated and can't include me telling the world to go fly a kite?)
Mathew Ingram: [Scoble] has definitely flown off the handle, however.
Dennis Howlett: [Scoble's] doing himself, Microsoft and the cause of social software a disservice. (Scoble's note: Wait a second, Dominic says I'm not a credible spokesperson, you guys have me so confused!)
John Dowdell: If I were Scoble. (Scoble's note: Sometimes I wish I were sane like John).
Scott Karp: Well, that’s what happens when the “community” is in charge of the facts.
Larry Borsato: Robert is entitled to his opinion, but so is everyone else, even if they don't share his.
Joe Wilcox: And speaking of laughing, a purely personal response to Robert: I would never laugh at you.
Scoble's Note: One correction for Joe, when you say, about Channel 9: "There is no third-party process, such as a journalist interviewer" that's not true. Every video has a spot for people to ask more questions underneath and they often get detailed answers too (and we don't pull down posts, even ones that disagree with us).
Charles Wright: [Scoble's] clearly in desperate need of a week or two communing with trees….
WR (of Smarthouse — the folks who wrote the "60% story", in my comments): It also appears that Scoble has a bigger ego than Donald Trump and is more emotional than John McEnroe with a bad line call.
Finally: I found a way to get Shelley Powers to link to me! :-)

There were some nice things said too:
Tom Mertens: [Scoble's] right.
Curt Hopkins[Scoble] made a perfectly reasonable call for bloggers not to link to unsupported posts, for which he was repeatedly attacked, by, I presume, people who perhaps are not fond of Microsoft.
Christian Gross: Some People Are Missing the Point.
Mini-Microsoft: Don't rely on one guy [Scoble]. Blogging is not his day job. (True!)

Oh, and tomorrow the New York Times has an interesting article titled "Windows Is So Slow, but Why?"

Finally, tonight I talked to someone who works at one of our OEMs. He didn't want to go on the record, but told me he was very disappointed with the Vista slip and that they were counting on having Vista shipping this Christmas.

To him, and all of our OEM partners, I'm sorry we didn't get the job done on time (I told him such on the phone).

Further apologies to Mark Purdy of the San Jose Mercury News (he regularly runs columns under the title "Better Mail than Jail" and I copied his concept).

Comments

  1. “Sometimes I wish I were sane like John.”

    Thanks, but I’m a little shocked to hear anyone put that particular combination of words together…! ;-)

  2. “Sometimes I wish I were sane like John.”

    Thanks, but I’m a little shocked to hear anyone put that particular combination of words together…! ;-)

  3. And the outcome? Being level-headed here, don’t attack me (well any more I mean).

    * Well, your ratings are nil (and dropping) among the Press, hovering in single digits. And managed to tick off some high-level Gartner’s, and get lots of usually sedate droning analysts peeved. Lottsa backchatter.

    * A non-story going nowhere, is now a big headline, all the ruckus, breaking into mainstream. It hasn’t died. A simple dismissal or OFFICIAL RESPONSE would have killed it, near second of. But the ‘yes I heard 60% too’ has reached 4 people thus far. So now you have helped fuel a conspiracy theory.

    * All your blogger friends, think you’ve gone loopy.

    * Firing readers? Wow. How is that even possible?

    * “KOD (aka Robert Scoble)”. I saw this on a thread, and was “KOD, say what?” And someone pointed me to Paul’s post. Hahah. Your own TLA.

    Give bloggers enough time, they all burnout eventually.

  4. And the outcome? Being level-headed here, don’t attack me (well any more I mean).

    * Well, your ratings are nil (and dropping) among the Press, hovering in single digits. And managed to tick off some high-level Gartner’s, and get lots of usually sedate droning analysts peeved. Lottsa backchatter.

    * A non-story going nowhere, is now a big headline, all the ruckus, breaking into mainstream. It hasn’t died. A simple dismissal or OFFICIAL RESPONSE would have killed it, near second of. But the ‘yes I heard 60% too’ has reached 4 people thus far. So now you have helped fuel a conspiracy theory.

    * All your blogger friends, think you’ve gone loopy.

    * Firing readers? Wow. How is that even possible?

    * “KOD (aka Robert Scoble)”. I saw this on a thread, and was “KOD, say what?” And someone pointed me to Paul’s post. Hahah. Your own TLA.

    Give bloggers enough time, they all burnout eventually.

  5. Bottom line — you can’t dispute Wilcox’s comments about Microsoft’s credibility. He is absolutely right — Microsoft has zero credibility right now with Windows.

  6. Bottom line — you can’t dispute Wilcox’s comments about Microsoft’s credibility. He is absolutely right — Microsoft has zero credibility right now with Windows.

  7. As a loyal reader, I just wish this blog keeps on being true to its foundation.
    No focus on the bad stuff that the community brings but on the good work being done out there.
    Nevermind the slackers, the journalists-wanna-be’s, and the ones who will do anything to get traffic.
    As in the normal day-life world, you’ll always have people with bad intentions.
    I believe focusing on your real target (technology breakthroughs) is far superiour then allowing yourself into those unnecessary discussions.
    Keep up the good work, Scoble! When bloglines tells me “(1)” at your feed I always stop everything I do to read it.
    Keep it up, and never mind those who just look for conflits.

  8. As a loyal reader, I just wish this blog keeps on being true to its foundation.
    No focus on the bad stuff that the community brings but on the good work being done out there.
    Nevermind the slackers, the journalists-wanna-be’s, and the ones who will do anything to get traffic.
    As in the normal day-life world, you’ll always have people with bad intentions.
    I believe focusing on your real target (technology breakthroughs) is far superiour then allowing yourself into those unnecessary discussions.
    Keep up the good work, Scoble! When bloglines tells me “(1)” at your feed I always stop everything I do to read it.
    Keep it up, and never mind those who just look for conflits.

  9. Scoble – you might want to draw everyone’s attention to the comments on Mini’s blog; not sure if you have seen this – should put an end to all the nonsense that is cluttering the blogosphere

    Excerpts from one the comments on his blog -

    [...] I am one of the several components owners who consulted with Brian on this latest Vista stuff. And to be honest, Vista is nothing so different from the complex beasts that Brian has nutured to fruition in the past. Of course if you have been here for only five or so years you’d think Vista is the only challenge MS has ever faced. But I digress..

    Yes the original plan was to get this puppy out August ending to ensure the two classes of OEMs (Direct and Indirect, e.g. Dell and Circuit City) had a level playing field for the year end Vista fueled hardware & software sales. Vista is being delivered with a bottoms up project management method where each component’s (and there are hundreds) schedule make up the master. So the Brian review showed a few components (I can count with the fingers on one hand) needing a few more weeks to wrap. Because of the nature of these components (input vs output) there is no other alternative other than adding these extra weeks (half in Beta 2, 0.25% in RC1 etc).

    Now Brian has humongous titanium balls – Go check his history from Exchange 5.5 to Win2K etc. He has his rules that cannot be overriden and some of these are:

    1) If it ain’t done, I a’int serving it. Period.

    2) A customer will soon forgive you for shipping good stuff later than you promised but will never forgive you for shipping bad stuff on time.

    The added time was not even much, prolly 6weeks (or 8 worst case) and will serve mainly those few components. Over 90% of the Windows components will be Vista complete in June and then cruise along the project ending dance to August as originally planned. However the added time pushed overall RTM to mid-October.

    Full link here -
    http://minimsft.blogspot.com/2006/03/nix-mix06-back-to-accountability-and.html

  10. Scoble – you might want to draw everyone’s attention to the comments on Mini’s blog; not sure if you have seen this – should put an end to all the nonsense that is cluttering the blogosphere

    Excerpts from one the comments on his blog -

    [...] I am one of the several components owners who consulted with Brian on this latest Vista stuff. And to be honest, Vista is nothing so different from the complex beasts that Brian has nutured to fruition in the past. Of course if you have been here for only five or so years you’d think Vista is the only challenge MS has ever faced. But I digress..

    Yes the original plan was to get this puppy out August ending to ensure the two classes of OEMs (Direct and Indirect, e.g. Dell and Circuit City) had a level playing field for the year end Vista fueled hardware & software sales. Vista is being delivered with a bottoms up project management method where each component’s (and there are hundreds) schedule make up the master. So the Brian review showed a few components (I can count with the fingers on one hand) needing a few more weeks to wrap. Because of the nature of these components (input vs output) there is no other alternative other than adding these extra weeks (half in Beta 2, 0.25% in RC1 etc).

    Now Brian has humongous titanium balls – Go check his history from Exchange 5.5 to Win2K etc. He has his rules that cannot be overriden and some of these are:

    1) If it ain’t done, I a’int serving it. Period.

    2) A customer will soon forgive you for shipping good stuff later than you promised but will never forgive you for shipping bad stuff on time.

    The added time was not even much, prolly 6weeks (or 8 worst case) and will serve mainly those few components. Over 90% of the Windows components will be Vista complete in June and then cruise along the project ending dance to August as originally planned. However the added time pushed overall RTM to mid-October.

    Full link here -
    http://minimsft.blogspot.com/2006/03/nix-mix06-back-to-accountability-and.html

  11. Christopher: so you talk to ALL my blogger friends? Yesterday I had lunch with Tara Hunt and Ernie the Attorney. They both said my commenters were way out of line lately. This is feedback I’ve heard from many other bloggers “how do you put up with them?” is a common question I hear.

    As to pissing off people. They have my phone number. They can call me and clear the air. Raymond of Acer called last night and he sure wasn’t quoted by that guy in Australia well.

    I guess it’s more fun to talk behind my back. But, they play this game two ways. You should hear what they say about YOU and it isn’t nice either. Hope that helps!

  12. Christopher: so you talk to ALL my blogger friends? Yesterday I had lunch with Tara Hunt and Ernie the Attorney. They both said my commenters were way out of line lately. This is feedback I’ve heard from many other bloggers “how do you put up with them?” is a common question I hear.

    As to pissing off people. They have my phone number. They can call me and clear the air. Raymond of Acer called last night and he sure wasn’t quoted by that guy in Australia well.

    I guess it’s more fun to talk behind my back. But, they play this game two ways. You should hear what they say about YOU and it isn’t nice either. Hope that helps!

  13. Windows delays

    The New York Times has an article today “Windows Is So Slow, but Why?”. Among other things, the article mentions that there are thousands of engineers on the Windows team today. Even without the enormous complexities caused by the need…

  14. Microsoft Cupcakes

    Everybody is reading the NYT article that explain Microsoft’s woes in terms of lines of code. They quote HBS prof David Yoffie: “Windows is now so big and onerous because of the size of its code base.” And Sloan’s Michael…

  15. Gee I thought I was being nice. You are entitle to your opinion (about who bloggers link to) as is everyone else. I’m sorry if you felt insulted, but you didn’t make a perfectly reasonable call to bloggers not to link to unsupported posts (Curt’s words); you threatened that “we should now start deriding people who link to non-credible sources”.

    But hey, my intent was not to insult. Like you, I’m perfectly capable of being human and making mistakes – and believe me I take every opportunity to make them. :)

  16. Gee I thought I was being nice. You are entitle to your opinion (about who bloggers link to) as is everyone else. I’m sorry if you felt insulted, but you didn’t make a perfectly reasonable call to bloggers not to link to unsupported posts (Curt’s words); you threatened that “we should now start deriding people who link to non-credible sources”.

    But hey, my intent was not to insult. Like you, I’m perfectly capable of being human and making mistakes – and believe me I take every opportunity to make them. :)

  17. OK, so a bit OT here… but I swear when I was up at 3am there was a comment or two about an entry about the Register and where it had gone. Am I just imagining things??

    Is that what ‘better-mail-than-jail’ was about?

    Man, I think I need more sleep!

  18. OK, so a bit OT here… but I swear when I was up at 3am there was a comment or two about an entry about the Register and where it had gone. Am I just imagining things??

    Is that what ‘better-mail-than-jail’ was about?

    Man, I think I need more sleep!

  19. Can anyone tell me why the article was not supported .pdf or scanned image of Ray’s communication with David of AU ??

    Can anyone point me to the orginal communcation which actually transscibed between Acer and David ??

    Should not David print out the whole email with certain portions whiteout (if required) ??

    just asking

  20. Can anyone tell me why the article was not supported .pdf or scanned image of Ray’s communication with David of AU ??

    Can anyone point me to the orginal communcation which actually transscibed between Acer and David ??

    Should not David print out the whole email with certain portions whiteout (if required) ??

    just asking

  21. OK, so I see where ‘better-mail-than-jail’ is… thank God for coComment, and strike me down for being too hasty.

    My absolute apologies Robert.

  22. OK, so I see where ‘better-mail-than-jail’ is… thank God for coComment, and strike me down for being too hasty.

    My absolute apologies Robert.

  23. You should hear what they say about YOU and it isn’t nice either.

    No doubt. I mean with authoring all the parodies and being good friends with all those evil anti-blog journalists. But then Tara still likes me, she has a good sense of humor and thick skin. And she (deep down) is really not that serious about all the Web 2.0 rot, she’s just trying to quick cash-in like everyone else.

    Not all your bloggers friends no, but with your old OPML mixed into my 1,500 feeds, well, at least the majority (seemingly). But you have owned up, just a bad week, so case closed.

  24. You should hear what they say about YOU and it isn’t nice either.

    No doubt. I mean with authoring all the parodies and being good friends with all those evil anti-blog journalists. But then Tara still likes me, she has a good sense of humor and thick skin. And she (deep down) is really not that serious about all the Web 2.0 rot, she’s just trying to quick cash-in like everyone else.

    Not all your bloggers friends no, but with your old OPML mixed into my 1,500 feeds, well, at least the majority (seemingly). But you have owned up, just a bad week, so case closed.

  25. Windows Vista: Past Its Due Date Already

    Windows has finally crossed the line, and there’s nothing Microsoft can do about it. It’s the beginning of the end. It’s a pattern that I’ve experienced first hand. You start with something excellent, and in the service of your customers

  26. @Robert, I asked Microsoft’s Rapid Response folks if any type of official comment was forthcoming. That was about ten hours ago. I did receive a response within the past few minutes, attributed to a Microsoft spokesperson:

    “I have connected with my colleagues, and they have asked that I tell you that this is speculation with no demonstrable basis in fact. There aren’t any Xbox developers moving over to the Windows Vista team. Windows Vista is on track for business availability in November 2006 and consumer availability in January 2007. Windows Vista is feature complete which means the code “writing” process is in essence over. The next phase of development focuses on security, testing and fit/finish – not writing new code.”

    Maybe this will finally put the 60 percent chatter to rest.

  27. @Robert, I asked Microsoft’s Rapid Response folks if any type of official comment was forthcoming. That was about ten hours ago. I did receive a response within the past few minutes, attributed to a Microsoft spokesperson:

    “I have connected with my colleagues, and they have asked that I tell you that this is speculation with no demonstrable basis in fact. There aren’t any Xbox developers moving over to the Windows Vista team. Windows Vista is on track for business availability in November 2006 and consumer availability in January 2007. Windows Vista is feature complete which means the code “writing” process is in essence over. The next phase of development focuses on security, testing and fit/finish – not writing new code.”

    Maybe this will finally put the 60 percent chatter to rest.

  28. @Scoble – I just received this a few minutes ago from a Microsoft spokesperson. Hopefully this puts the whole 60 percent issue 100 percent to rest:

    “This is speculation with no demonstrable basis in fact. There aren’t any Xbox developers moving over to the Windows Vista team. Windows Vista is on track for business availability in November 2006 and consumer availability in January 2007. Windows Vista is feature complete which means the code “writing” process is in essence over. The next phase of development focuses on security, testing and fit/finish – not writing new code.”

  29. @Scoble – I just received this a few minutes ago from a Microsoft spokesperson. Hopefully this puts the whole 60 percent issue 100 percent to rest:

    “This is speculation with no demonstrable basis in fact. There aren’t any Xbox developers moving over to the Windows Vista team. Windows Vista is on track for business availability in November 2006 and consumer availability in January 2007. Windows Vista is feature complete which means the code “writing” process is in essence over. The next phase of development focuses on security, testing and fit/finish – not writing new code.”

  30. Advantages of Vista & IE 7

    Okay, I’ve been reading a lot of the blogosphere for the past 2 months and from what I see, people have been hard on Vista & IE, very very hard. Microsoft should prove it’s credibility but everybody uses Windows XP to the core and then …

  31. Advantages of Vista & IE 7

    Okay, I’ve been reading a lot of the blogosphere for the past 2 months and from what I see, people have been hard on Vista & IE, very very hard. Microsoft should prove it’s credibility but everybody uses Windows XP to the core and then …

  32. You know, aside from all this blather, I think the point was missed. The point is MicroBloat has screwed itself good this time. The idea that windows can be all things to all people is flawed from the outset. It may have taken 16 or 17 years but the cracks are showing, Microsoft was warned many years ago when they absorbed Norton (Symantec) that bullying and stifling competition and innovation would bring them down.

    LOOK OUT BELOW!!!

  33. You know, aside from all this blather, I think the point was missed. The point is MicroBloat has screwed itself good this time. The idea that windows can be all things to all people is flawed from the outset. It may have taken 16 or 17 years but the cracks are showing, Microsoft was warned many years ago when they absorbed Norton (Symantec) that bullying and stifling competition and innovation would bring them down.

    LOOK OUT BELOW!!!