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  1. Looks like you and the bloggers are fed up of the over usage.

    So suggest an alternative :) (which no one would do coz it runs the same risk)

    or fire all the marketing / pr people :D who hype stuff up

  2. Looks like you and the bloggers are fed up of the over usage.

    So suggest an alternative :) (which no one would do coz it runs the same risk)

    or fire all the marketing / pr people :D who hype stuff up

  3. Good lord. Has everyone forgotten Sturgeon’s Law?

    “90% of everything is crud.”

    This includes user-created content, corporate content, all content. Unless it’s your crud, in which case you love it, of course. One could extend this to CEOs I bet. And folks who leave comments on popular geek blogs. Hmm.

  4. Good lord. Has everyone forgotten Sturgeon’s Law?

    “90% of everything is crud.”

    This includes user-created content, corporate content, all content. Unless it’s your crud, in which case you love it, of course. One could extend this to CEOs I bet. And folks who leave comments on popular geek blogs. Hmm.

  5. Greetings,
    Hmm! I started by posting a joking comment on Jeremy’s blog, but in the process, I think I came up with something that actually might work.

    Contributed Media.

    It kind of says it all, really. It doesn’t need the slightly derogatory ‘user’, as it’s implicit as to who’s contributing, it’s not too touchy-feely, it’s a phrase that a marketroid, C?O, and VC could be comfortable saying, it doesn’t demean anyone, and it covers all the myriad forms of data we crazy people put up.

    What’cha think? Or have we already lost this battle…?

    – Morgan Schweers, CyberFOX!

  6. Greetings,
    Hmm! I started by posting a joking comment on Jeremy’s blog, but in the process, I think I came up with something that actually might work.

    Contributed Media.

    It kind of says it all, really. It doesn’t need the slightly derogatory ‘user’, as it’s implicit as to who’s contributing, it’s not too touchy-feely, it’s a phrase that a marketroid, C?O, and VC could be comfortable saying, it doesn’t demean anyone, and it covers all the myriad forms of data we crazy people put up.

    What’cha think? Or have we already lost this battle…?

    – Morgan Schweers, CyberFOX!

  7. Right.

    And giving it a new name changes… what?

    “Authentic Media”, “User Generated Content” or whatever you call it – these are simply proofs that the jigsaw pieces of the social web is falling into place.

    There are a few missing pieces that we still have to explore. But with so many brains at work, I don’t think that will take too much of time.

    If you have anathema to the name, I suggest you start by changing the renaming the flower called “Rose”. Doing so will actually prove a dead guy right, or maybe, wrong even. :)

    Regards,
    Shri.

  8. Right.

    And giving it a new name changes… what?

    “Authentic Media”, “User Generated Content” or whatever you call it – these are simply proofs that the jigsaw pieces of the social web is falling into place.

    There are a few missing pieces that we still have to explore. But with so many brains at work, I don’t think that will take too much of time.

    If you have anathema to the name, I suggest you start by changing the renaming the flower called “Rose”. Doing so will actually prove a dead guy right, or maybe, wrong even. :)

    Regards,
    Shri.

  9. Let’s deconstruct the term *properly*…

    User: someone who uses a computer system, in this case a web-based computer system

    Generated: Made or created

    Content: Digital output/material from a computer system e.g. text documents, images, video etc.

    I don’t see anything negative about this phrase, and it certainly doesn’t demean anyone. Yes, it’s jargon – but at least it’s pretty clear what it means – so, it’s “good” jargon in that sense.

    I’m not sure there’s a battle that’s worth fighting here…

  10. Let’s deconstruct the term *properly*…

    User: someone who uses a computer system, in this case a web-based computer system

    Generated: Made or created

    Content: Digital output/material from a computer system e.g. text documents, images, video etc.

    I don’t see anything negative about this phrase, and it certainly doesn’t demean anyone. Yes, it’s jargon – but at least it’s pretty clear what it means – so, it’s “good” jargon in that sense.

    I’m not sure there’s a battle that’s worth fighting here…

  11. I’m deeply attracted to the word amateur for this use. To me, amateur is a word ripe for reclaiming.

    If you look back 100 to 150 years ago, you see a very different connotation to the word – where an “amateur” was someone who pursued a passion purely for that passion and a “professional” was someone who just did it for the money. Look at the history of archaeology as an example.

  12. I’m deeply attracted to the word amateur for this use. To me, amateur is a word ripe for reclaiming.

    If you look back 100 to 150 years ago, you see a very different connotation to the word – where an “amateur” was someone who pursued a passion purely for that passion and a “professional” was someone who just did it for the money. Look at the history of archaeology as an example.

  13. Letsee, create a buzzword a day (rather 2 or 3 if Steve Gillmor), big nlogger meme a week, Web 2.0 Star Wars/Sci-Fi creature title as a company name, marketing-jingle-concept meme of the moment, but gaggle all over (and read way way too much into things) per some static non-judgemental naming convention?

    Obviously we are dealing with people not fully in touch with terra firma.

  14. Letsee, create a buzzword a day (rather 2 or 3 if Steve Gillmor), big nlogger meme a week, Web 2.0 Star Wars/Sci-Fi creature title as a company name, marketing-jingle-concept meme of the moment, but gaggle all over (and read way way too much into things) per some static non-judgemental naming convention?

    Obviously we are dealing with people not fully in touch with terra firma.

  15. Just a note about the title. Maybe it should be changed to ‘More bloggers ill from UGC’ or even ‘More bloggers ill from UCC’.

    Or am I missing something here?

  16. Just a note about the title. Maybe it should be changed to ‘More bloggers ill from UGC’ or even ‘More bloggers ill from UCC’.

    Or am I missing something here?

  17. I don’t know that i agree with your thinking….

    Here is the way I see it:

    User Generated Content is…. content that some company didn’t have to pay people to manufacture.

    Flickr, del.icio.us / digg.com, myspace, linkedin, various bloggers, a lot of the ‘web2.0′ crowd, etc:

    They didn’t have to pay photographers to take the pictures and then license those pictures.

    They didn’t have to pay journalists and editors a salary to spend all day dreaming up things to write about (like if you were CNN or WSJ).

    They didn’t have to hire employees to think of clever sites to review or list out.

    They didn’t have to pay anyone to score the information and categorize it.

    …and as a result, they amassed two things:
    1) a lot of content that is growing very quickly
    2) viewers/readers/people interacting with this content

    Paying people to build content costs big bucks and creates overhead. Big costs and big overhead make it difficult to scale a company quickly.

    This is exactly why MSFT is better off getting content from elsewhere instead of trying to hire your own newsdesk, talking heads, or blah blah blah resources that require salaries and $$$$. It is also likely the reason that your crew has bought many of these startups instead of hiring talk show personalities or gifted journalists to the MSFT payroll.

    Why is this better to have user generated content instead? Because businesses based on this type of content are more scalable and less likely to reach a growth plateau.
    Content is still king…. owning the distribution channel is no longer necesary.

    The more personalized, niche, and late breaking content that you have, the better off you are.

    It would be impossible for a startup to build this amount of content on their own… and even if they could, the business wouldn’t scale.

    ….and hence…. user generated content is better than corporate generated content. Any way you slice it, there are more users than employees. And why such a generic term is applicable.

    Personally, I like the term ‘user generated content’…. it is simple, clean, and short… even if the masters of the blogoverse don’t like it. :-)

    Best,
    E. David Zotter

  18. I don’t know that i agree with your thinking….

    Here is the way I see it:

    User Generated Content is…. content that some company didn’t have to pay people to manufacture.

    Flickr, del.icio.us / digg.com, myspace, linkedin, various bloggers, a lot of the ‘web2.0′ crowd, etc:

    They didn’t have to pay photographers to take the pictures and then license those pictures.

    They didn’t have to pay journalists and editors a salary to spend all day dreaming up things to write about (like if you were CNN or WSJ).

    They didn’t have to hire employees to think of clever sites to review or list out.

    They didn’t have to pay anyone to score the information and categorize it.

    …and as a result, they amassed two things:
    1) a lot of content that is growing very quickly
    2) viewers/readers/people interacting with this content

    Paying people to build content costs big bucks and creates overhead. Big costs and big overhead make it difficult to scale a company quickly.

    This is exactly why MSFT is better off getting content from elsewhere instead of trying to hire your own newsdesk, talking heads, or blah blah blah resources that require salaries and $$$$. It is also likely the reason that your crew has bought many of these startups instead of hiring talk show personalities or gifted journalists to the MSFT payroll.

    Why is this better to have user generated content instead? Because businesses based on this type of content are more scalable and less likely to reach a growth plateau.
    Content is still king…. owning the distribution channel is no longer necesary.

    The more personalized, niche, and late breaking content that you have, the better off you are.

    It would be impossible for a startup to build this amount of content on their own… and even if they could, the business wouldn’t scale.

    ….and hence…. user generated content is better than corporate generated content. Any way you slice it, there are more users than employees. And why such a generic term is applicable.

    Personally, I like the term ‘user generated content’…. it is simple, clean, and short… even if the masters of the blogoverse don’t like it. :-)

    Best,
    E. David Zotter

  19. …. this comment is a great example.

    The amount of text copy that is apart of your blog site is probably doubled by the time you take into account all the stuff people write in your comments.

    Users/Visitors/readers/everyone interacts and responds to not only your content, but the other new content… this content was not generated by you, MSFT…… but users/visitors/readers/everyone else.

  20. …. this comment is a great example.

    The amount of text copy that is apart of your blog site is probably doubled by the time you take into account all the stuff people write in your comments.

    Users/Visitors/readers/everyone interacts and responds to not only your content, but the other new content… this content was not generated by you, MSFT…… but users/visitors/readers/everyone else.