Daily Kos crashes Microsoft’s gate

Hey it make sense. I mean washington next Congresswoman Darcy Burner worked at Microsoft until she descided to run. She will be the first member of congress to have a MSDN blog ( http://blogs.msdn.com/darcyburner/default.aspx ).

I do not see eye-to-eye with the Daily Kos but I congratulate them on the popularity of their blog.

Why would I want to get insights from a group that couldn’t even get there candidate nominated by their party? What possible helpful insights would they have? Unless one wants insights on how to flame out a campaign overnight.

Dmad: oh, so you can only learn something from those who were successful in life? Interesting. I don’t find that to be true at all.

Well Dmad should be congratulated for not going too far in terms of crapping all over the point of Democratic netroots. After all one could have over-reacted to the the propgress of Republican radicals in the early 80s.

That Markos clown is probably the clearest example there is of the desperate need for some leadership in the democratic party. After Clinton, Gore, and Kerry, they are so hopeless that they turn to this loudmouth nobody who tells them that they’re losing because they’re not angry ENOUGH?

The dems are going to continue to lose support as long as they keep up that obnoxious affectation of moral superiority. Yeah, we know.. You’re against Bush. How about telling us what you’re FOR? Why in the world would we believe that you’d spend any less of our money than the republicans do? Why would we believe that you’d care any more about our civil rights? Clinton was only too happy to try to keep us from even having decent crypto, for craps sake!

many interesting insights about the state of American politics.

Ummm, yeah? Just the usual shrill mean downright annonyingly obnoxiousy liberalish Bush-hating crude-sexual jokes yadda yadda angry ‘volume on 11′ yelling, from the microwaved-brain-dead nutso Deaniacs. If the Demos or the Left are ever going to make any headway in terms of media figures, they need someone with a reasoned approach, with a sense of humor and a warm, friendly approach. Not more Randi Rhodes…whom was always a great source of crazy amusement back in my jet-set poverty Lake Worth’ian Palm Beachy days, off-season is heaven, on-season is richie charity ball hell. But Randi’s always mad.

Unless one wants insights on how to flame out a campaign overnight.

My thoughts exactly. Every Dmad post gets my gold star.

The Dean scream was bloggable.

If you want to see a real political blog, one that is banned by Google News: http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com

Hi Robert,

Do they provide balance at these things? Kos equals Ann Coulter so I assume she’s next? Or is Microsoft more of a Kos crowd?

While Kos gets a lot of traffic, and clearly has a lot of influence on the left, I’m not sure I would consider him an expert on practical politics and the Internet. He has publicly backed some 15 candidates now. His record on victories by those candidates? Zero for 15.

@4 Well, that’s a good point, if only the Dems would actually put it in practice. How frequently have the Dems controlled the White House in the past 40 years? Yea, they do seem to be learning from their mistakes. Hell, look how horrible Bush is doing, and they still couldn’t find a way to beat him. Again, if there were evidence that the Dems were actually LEARNING something, you would have point. But, like with every other counter argument you attempt to make, it doesn’t stand up.

@10 Well, considerning Ballmer’s flip-flop bumbling of support for a Washington state gay rights bill; ultimately acquiesing to a ransom note written by some internal group,http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/may2005/tc20050512_7358_PG2_tc024.htm one might conclude they were KOS through and through.

@11. I wonder if he gets a lot of traffice because, like they say.. Misery loves company

Billy: Markos says his record is 3 out of 17 (watch the Colber Report video). He hopes his record will hold. He predicted yesterday that the Dems wouldn’t win much next election.

Dmad: oh, if misery loves company, go listen to Rush Limbaugh. He has at least 20x the traffic that Daily Kos does.

Mike: yeah, we have lots of Repubs visit campus too. I’ll cover the next one that comes on campus. We hired Bush’s former National Press Secretary too (he was in the audience yesterday and had Markos sign his book).

I thought these two were more funny than shrill screamers. The Dean scream was totally blown out of proportion anyway by the audio equipment in the room.

@13, Again, I thought this wasn’t a numbers game. I’m so confused about your position. Or is only not a numbers game when you can’t support your position?

Maybe Limbaugh has 20X the traffic because people like to side with a winner?

So, if we can also learn from losers, can we expect an interview with Ray Noorda on how to be successful in the NOS business? Can we expect an interview with Pete Peterson on how to be successful in the Word Processing business? Can we expect an interview with Jim Manzi on how to be successful in the spreadsheet be business? How much money are those guys making on the lecture circuit?

I think I’d much rather get the wisdom of those that have proven to be successful. I mean, hell, most every pollitician can take a lesson from Clinton. But those running Dean’s campaign? Sorry. That’d be like trying to learn how to be a head football coach from Norv Turner.

Dmad: I was listening to Rush back when the Republicans weren’t winning all that much (back when he was only one one station in Sacramento).

People listen to people partly because they are entertaining. Hey, Howard Stern has even more listeners!

If Markos and Jerome are harmful for the Left, the Right should be quiet and let them talk the Democratic party into the ground.

Yeah, the Democratic party is losing elections. But the party elite aren’t listening to the netroots. I’d hardly fault them for the losses.

The reason most of the candidates Markos has supported have lost is because he supports underdogs that the Democratic party won’t support because they know they will loose. He supports candidates that need money because they are running in heavily Republican districts and are getting no money from the party.

@ 6 The Democrats are for affordable health care, a living wage, affordable higher education, social security, a balanced budget, they are for following the law. Democrats submitted multiple bills to fund the security of our ports long before the Dubai ports controversy. All the port security bills were defeated by Republicans.

They are against tax cuts for corporations and millionaires while the country is at war. They are against the weakening of environmental and labor laws. They are against cronyism.

Bush is doing so horrible that Republicans have to spread the talking point that Democrats aren’t for anything. And people like you actually buy it.

What are the Republicans for? Besides corporations and tax cuts for millionaires and increasing the size of government.

yea, that’s great. A “living wage”? What the hell is a “living wage?” Because whatever number you come up with, someone will eventually say it’s not enought. And who pays this “living wage?”. You and me, in the form of more expensive goods and services. At some point this “living wage” becomes prohibitive for small businesses to afford and drive them out of business. Great idea. The Dems are for “feel good” programs with no idea how to pay for them or their affects on society.

Like they say: TNSTAAFL.

Democrats also don’t understand the affect higher taxes have on society, either. Ooh.. bad rich people. Since when do they get to decide how much money people get to keep?

yeah dmad and it’s exactly that attitude that will prevent there EVER being true prosperity in this country. It is that very attitude that will continue to allow the rich to keep a permanent stranglehold on wealth and make the concept of upward mobility a meer marketing ploy to keep the lower class voting for candidatesd running on lower taxes and eliminating decent social programs and domestic spending.

Maybe that’s really the way it should be. Cold, heartless, primal, backstabbing, social darwinism. Maybe. Or maybe it’s only because, historically, the people who have the guns and the gold think that way. Liberals/progrssives don’t think that is how it should be. And we say that proudly. The least you conservatives could do is come clean and at least admit that you DO believe that is the way it should be and STOP PRETENDING that you don’t.

The Republicans on this board sure don’t like the Kos very much. That tells me he is doing something right. I’m going to redouble my donations to the candidates he supports.

69 percent of Americans think this country is headed in the wrong direction. National politics is currently dominated by the corrupt GOP and the people are rightly disgusted.

@22 and yet the Dems still can’t find a viable winning candidate. go figure.

@21. I’m happy to entertain any successful examples of government funded, socialized healthcare. Hell, I’m happy to entertain successful examples of prosperous societies were the govt takes more money from the people who earn it.

Read the Constitution once. Where does it say the govt has the authority to determine how much of your money you get to keep.

@24 uh, I actually keep a copy on my desk at all times….maybe YOU should try reading the constitution. Article 1 section 8 explicitly provides for taxation. Now if you are being pedantic it doesn’t say “10%”, “25.5%”, or anything like that but it provides for Congress to determine what they see fit.

As for your first questions. I’ve never lived anywhere but here but my friends and colleagues from Canada and at least half of Europe speak highly of their socialized healthcare. They grumble a bit about the higher rates of taxation but unlike most Americans they understand the value and benefit it allows their societies to enjoy. I certainly don’t want to see their plans equally adpopted here, it wouldn’t likely work, but a basic but significant nationalized healthcare IS coming here. It will be an important first step in a more equitable and prosperous society because when a company doesn’t have to spend so much on employee healthcare it will allow for more jobs and higer wages. And analysis of living wage effects in cities with living wage laws are rather positive suggesting that there is a benefit for all parties involved.

@25. you conveniently left out the why: “to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States” The “general welfare” was not intended to mean create a welfare state. In the Federalist Papers the framers were pretty clear about that. As I’m sure you know.

As for your healthcare plan, I think P.J. O’Rourke said it best: “If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until you see how much it costs when it’s free”

And it curious how many Canadians come to the US when they need major, quality healthcare. Nothing incents like the free market.

Again, define “living wage”. Because whatever figure you come up with, I can pretty much guarantee it will be too low. It’s not the job of the federal govt (let alone a state, or local govt) to dictate to private businesses how they should be run. Of course you know that, because you have the Constitution sitting on your desk. Can you point me to the Article and section that grants the Fed Govt that authority?
I saw the press release in the Hartford Courant on the “positive effects” of their living wage law. I’ve not seen many others. And simple economics would tell you it would have a negative affect on labor and prices. The costs have to be absorbed somewhere.

Also, please explain how unemployment amongst black teens (and teens and low skilled workers in general) has risen steadily since the implementation of minimum wage laws.
Again, TNSTAAFL.