Why Vista slipped

You mean the explanation that he’s now afraid of and pulled? Is it an explanation by example: MS tries to do something, it garners comments and complaints, it goes wrong, it gets pulled, they start over?

You mean the explanation that he’s now afraid of and pulled? Is it an explanation by example: MS tries to do something, it garners comments and complaints, it goes wrong, it gets pulled, they start over?

How open and transparent Microsoft is.

“No ‘external” pressure”.

Sounds like weasel words to me.

Not really a naked conversation there… is it?

errr…ahem, Robert, the ‘great post’ is not there anymore…

errr…ahem, Robert, the ‘great post’ is not there anymore…

Btw, google still has a cached copy of that blog. Just search “The World As Best As I Remember It” (WITH QUOTES) and its the first link…

Robert,

One does have to wonder why would anyone delete a post that clearly explains to the rest of the general public the delay for shipping Windows Vista. Personally I believe that the “pressure” from the internal development teams who comprise Vista gave him some flak for posting what really happened. Unfortunately since I was unable to see his original post I can only guess as to its contents.

Does deleting a post stop detractors? I say nay it does not. In fact deleting this post could have been one of the biggest blunders anyone in Microsoft could have done from a PR standpoint in a long time. This makes me seriously question the new leaf that Microsoft has supposedly turned over in being more transparent and open to its customers.

Yes I agree Windows Vista is perhaps the largest software development project known to man, so then explain what took so long and why you wanted the project to work properly. Deleting the message that explains just that does no one a service.

Phil, you could simply disable commentson the entry. People are still interested in at least reading your post.

“I wanted the discussion around the topic to be as productive as possible, but instead it’s just been a magnet for Linux and Apple fanatics to spread rhetoric.”

Oh, boohoo, when an Apple or Linux supporter claims that their projects are of similar design but don’t have the same management, strategic, etc… shortcomings, it’s rhetoric. When you claim that Microsoft is embarking on the largest, most ambitious project eva, it’s informative? Get a clue, you are spewing more rhetoric than anyone in the conversation.

it says “Server is too busy”

Here’s why Vista slipped: Windows was already a profoundly flawed and huge mess when your company’s executives decided that it could accomplish three or four of the most significant OS-related projects ever without having ever solved any of these goals in 20+ years of research… While it attempted to deliver these projects without knowing whether or not they could be achieved, it became apparent that the system was so flawed that it was several years behind more basic systems in terms of security and other issues. Meanwhile, while you were running in circles, other companies made significant achievements in projects that became obvious and necessary (GPU-accelerated graphics, web-service apps, etc…)… Meanwhile, the ever present problem: that Microsoft develops system level code in its apps or app code in its system or it builds 3 or 4 APIs at a time all with backward compatibility meant that every group was on a different page. Then there are significant management issues and reorganizations (I’ve counted about 4 in the last 2 years when during the DOJ trial they claimed that any reorg was impossible). And… your company is so paranoid and megalomaniacal it must chase after every other successful product or piece of code ever created even though it has largely been successful with 2 products alone.

Mike: it was up when I linked to it. I think it's a server problem. It hasn't been pulled. It got Slashdotted and Dugg and Scobleized.

It's up now. I just got to it.

What's funny is PR told him to repost it (he pulled the post down again cause it's causing too much negative conversation in his point of view).

My advice to corporate bloggers: do NOT delete a post. EVER. It causes your company HUGE negative PR. 

“It hasn’t been pulled. It got Slashdotted and Dugg and Scobleized.”

“What’s funny is PR told him to repost it (he pulled the post down again cause it’s causing too much negative conversation in his point of view).”

Shouldn’t this indicate something: even Microsoft’s Marketers cannot remember that what they said five seconds ago, contradict themselves, and then keep on going blissfully ignorant or their own stupidity, hoping that everyone believes them when they say, “everything’s okay.”

“we”? isn’t it “they” now?

Goebbels: it demonstrates that not everyone is professional at PR, especially developers. Bloggers shouldn’t post anything that they don’t want to see on the front page of the New York Times or used against them by anti-Microsoft forces.

Goebbels: it demonstrates that not everyone is professional at PR, especially developers. Bloggers shouldn’t post anything that they don’t want to see on the front page of the New York Times or used against them by anti-Microsoft forces.

“Goebbels: it demonstrates that not everyone is professional at PR, especially developers.”

Um, Scoble, my comment was directed at YOU! not Philip. You claimed it wasn’t pulled (it was) and then a second later that it was “pulled it down again” (which it wasn’t, it was pulled once) which contradicted a sentence you typed 2 seconds ago.

You don’t need to tell me you aren’t professional, but that’s not the point. My point was the whole lot of you are disfunctional and will say anything to make yourselves happy.

Edited for the sake of clarity (and humor):

Um, Scoble, my comment was directed at YOU! not Philip. I did quote you, didn’t I?

You claimed it was NOT pulled (it was) and then a second later that: “he pulled the post down again” (which it wasn’t, it was pulled once; how do you do something again that you didn’t do in the first place?) which contradicted the previous 2 sentences, and presumably, that thought (however wrong it was) should have been in your head a second ago.

Goebbels: Phillip posted it a while back, then pulled it a few days ago. Mini noticed that. Liz Lawley told me about it. I warned PR (and Phillip) that wasn’t a good thing to do. Frank Shaw, VP there, told him to put it back up. He did that yesterday. It promptly got Slashdotted. Now he pulled it down again. Sigh.

The post that was there is gone and all that is left is carefully formatted (complete with stategic bold text!) marketspeak.

Transparency?

This is why you left Microsoft, Robert.

The post that was there is gone and all that is left is carefully formatted (complete with stategic bold text!) marketspeak.

Transparency?

This is why you left Microsoft, Robert.

http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=204904#204904

Anon: no, it’s not why I left. I actually liked helping people not make mistakes that would get negative PR (although not many people can stomach the rough and tumble world of being a public face of Microsoft). I left cause there’s incredible opportunity out there in the video space.