Yahoo recruiter wants my resume

It does seem sort of prima donna-ish to play up the fact that, in some circles at least, you’re well-enough known that a resume is not necessary. I find the Yahoo recruiter’s “mistake” charming. While he probably should be a bit more rigorous in his pre-contact research, the end result was that he treated you like, you know, a person gets treated. Is that so bad?

At the end of the day we’re all superstars to few and nobodies to most. Burning bridges with recruiters probably feels good right now in the wake of your new job, but who knows – maybe someday you’ll wish you had a nice in at Yahoo (I realize you probably do, regardless). Or that you hadn’t used your soapbox to celebrate the failure of somebody in this industry to cower at your webbiness. I’d err on the side of humility. It just feels better.

Daniel: a recruiter that doesn’t Google/MSN/Yahoo his or her “mark” is just not doing his or her job properly anymore. At Microsoft the recruiters I hang out with tell me they search on everyone and get to know what they do online.

You’re right about the hubris, though. I might need a job again someday. But, I hope I’ll always have the opportunity to work for clued in people who care about the people they are trying to hire more than the process that’ll keep them employed. But, that’s just me.

Marketing Headhunter: you had a great post. Everyone should read it. It’s at http://www.marketingheadhunter.com/executive_search/2006/06/robert_scoble.html

I disagree with it, though. My body of work is a lot more than what will show up on my resume. A resume doesn’t tell me much at all about who someone is and what real skills they have. Which is why they spend eight hours interviewing you after reading your resume at Microsoft.

Dmad: you point out why you still need an interview. In an interview you could say “it looks like you do a lot of the videos, but I’m unclear on what you actually do, can you explain that?”

It does seem sort of prima donna-ish to play up the fact that, in some circles at least, you’re well-enough known that a resume is not necessary.

It is not being a prima donna if you’re the BEST IN THE WORLD!!1!!oneoneone!!eleventy!

Oh, and Wikipedia has the highlights of my career too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Scoble

It was not easy task to assembly your early life section and it’s even more hard to do expirience one.

There is still nothing in your Wikipedia article about your discount camera store (LZ Premiums) expirience.
No college’s school newspaper info.
Nothing at all about Fawcette and Winnov.

Even more – there is way to figure your actual education.
Is it Bachelors or Masters or you not graduated at all ( https://www.mainfunction.com/DotNetInAction/Technologies/display.aspx?ID=2862&TypeID=11 )
“almost graduated, I still have one class left to complete”.

Trying not to sound patronising here, but how stupid are some people?!

I agree with you too — which is why I didn’t attack you personally. What I found troublesome was the possibility that your readers [who have a ton of well placed respect for you] would take your post at face value and say “Yeah, screw resumes. Scoble’s right. From now on I’m gonna let my work and my Google results speak for me.”

As you know, it doesn’t work that way. I admit, a resume is like an X-ray: All it can show you is the patient’s career “bone structure,” and typically the maladies that will kill a candidate’s career don’t appear on a resume (drinking problems, fear of flying, abusive interpersonal style, etc.). That’s why there are interviews, reference checks, Google research, etc.

But your readers mustn’t get the idea that resumes are on the way out. They are not, if only because companies rely on them so heaviliy for their executive pass-around value — especially in the early stages of a candidate’s hiring process. Perhaps they rely on them too heavily — and I think that was your beef to begin with.

Yahoo just wants the press they’ll get when Microsoft sues them like Google got when Google hired Kai-Fu Lee away from Microsoft.

Sadly enough the world is full of people with huge ego. I read this whole thread and found it ironic that many people supported this Mr. Scobleizer, whoever he might be.

Not bother to search for his name, I only have this advice for Mr. Scobleizer: grow up! Regardless of your talent, you will find that a humble attitude would go a long way toward impressing many of your peers, a lot more than posting this blog (and its follow-ups, maybe?)

Uh, you may be the top story on all the tech news sites, but maybe this is just a reminder to stay humble. I guess being “internet famous” isn’t the same as being Brad Pitt.
Just my two cents.

Forward it on to BillG he will be available… that recruiter is so clueless he’d probably call.

Rather, don’t give zawodny the recruiter’s name/email. It’s none of his business and all he will do is cry and complain, as usual, to no result, as usual. This wannabe, self-styled “troublemaker” doesn’t need any more fodder for his little whinefest. Someone should remind him that his 15 minutes are over.

Wow…ever heard of humility? I wouldn’t be so smug considering you could very well be out of a job next year or even a few months from now. Future employers are reading this and judging you based on your huge ego.

Angel, the person who wrote the first resume was also told he/she was egotistical enough to brag about their achievements…if you have seen some resumes you know what I mean …not just inflated, some with lies…Scoble has been pushing for tranparency in many aspects of business – why not in recruiting too? … about ego, Scoble himself says he can be snarky jerk (his words above)…not really that big a ego, I would say…

What was the point of this posting? Why humiliate the Yahoo recruiter or burn that bridge?

And writing “it gets even funnier. He just asked “where are you going?” very much comes across as a “don’t you know who I am” statement.

Admitting to snarky jerk behavior doesn’t lessen the impact of the behavior.

Each company could have people who refuses to do their homework, nothing new to that. “Don’t burn the bridge” was sound advice.

Such people may also think if they kept banging your door you may eventually open it unless you call 911-remember ‘Buddy Fox’? we never know, they could have their own success stories to tell you.

#28. Fair point about the interview. However, if you are saying “if you want to know about me read my blog”, as a potetial employer I see some red flags that may not even elicit an interiew. Do I want a guy that appears to not be able to manage his time well and has trouble prioritizing?

So How much would Yahoo have to offer you to accept the job?

Phil

Wow, this has been one of the more interesting threads I have read on any topic lately. I think that a resume is just a tool. If you dont need that particular tool to get the job, good for you. If a company requires one be sent, then you get to decide if the process dies or moves forward. The world is changing, and maybe resumes will go away…or more likely they will morph into something a little different than we know them today. Either way, a resume cannot get you the job, it can just keep you from getting interviewed. (I have a friend who did not get an interview because a recruiter AND an employee of the company forwarded the same resume to HR the same day. The HR person said “any time I get a resume more than once the candidate is eliminated”. This just proves that people have their own quirky opinions of how to screen a candidate once they get a resume…and you have no control over it!).

what cote said:

http://www.redmonk.com/cote/archives/2006/03/linkedin_the_ca.html

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Profile as Resume

I’d like to see LinkedIn make this happen: instead of sending a resume to a company, I’d send a LinkedIn URL. (And, no, I’m not looking for a job, it’s just an example)

I’ve typed up all my crap into LinkedIn, I have some lovely, kind recommendations from former co-workers, and my LinkedIn page better represents who I am than a resume ever could: web pages have links! In fact, my resume is just cut-and-pasted from LinkedIn. Resumes suck. Web-pages are much more rich.

Gregor-LinkedIn has that feature. I noticed it recently (when I was setting up an auto sig)so not sure how new it is but they will generate a unique LinkedIn url for your profile page.

For example, here’s mine: http://www.linkedin.com/in/heatherhamilton

Take a look at today’s WSJ. Even those notable people, some of whom had Bill, Steve, Larry & Sergei in hot pursuit, provided a resume when I asked. NO attitude about it. Yes, I always search the web first, but sometimes need an up to date resume for practical purposes. Our senior execs like to know something about the people I ask them to meet, like where they have worked before and what they have accomplished. They might not all know everything about you. (I know, hard to believe )Think you are being a bit harsh here.

Hmm… My guess is that Yahoo is no longer interested in Scoble’s resume. Now, I sure would like to figure out how to get them to want MY resume… !

bob wyman
(Resume available on request)