I’m sad to agree with Robert McLaws about Windows Vista’s ship schedule. This sucker is just not ready. Too many things are too slow and/or don’t work. I’ve been on the betas of every Windows OS since Windows 3.1 and Vista is starting to feel good, but it doesn’t feel good enough to release to the factory in October. It feels like it needs a good six more months than that, which would mean a mid-year release next year.
Some things that need to be fixed? UI issues (see Chris Pirillo). Speed/performance issues (unless it’ll only be run on super-fast new computers — I went back to XP on my Lenovo Tablet PC because Vista was sluggish and the drivers weren’t reliable). Application compatibility (I’m hearing that many apps are having problems). Driver compat (my Dell computer at Microsoft never worked completely, and a coworker called me a few days ago to ask “did you ever get the soundcard working?”)
Remember: no one will remember whether this thing slipped another few months IF it’s a good product when it comes out (remember Windows 2000? It slipped by years). But everyone will remember if this is a disaster (the community is still talking about Windows ME, which was a particularly horrible release).
If this ships in October, I will recommend not installing it and waiting for the first service pack. There’s no way the quality will be high enough to trust it if it ships early. I hope Microsoft takes the time to do this right.
If they don’t Apple will have far more market share at the end of 2007 than it will if Microsoft ships a great release.
Speaking of Apple, they are readying a dizzying amount of new products. I wish I could camp out at an Apple store during the World Wide Developer Conference on August 7th. I wish I could say more, but that’d get me sued by Steve Jobs and I don’t need that kind of heck right now.
Yeap, I remember it was Bill Gates presenting Windows and it crashed. But nonetheless, the product shipped and the world bought. Will it happen for Vista again? Microsoft came over and did a snazzy presentation on BBC using Vista to deliver unparalleled rich UX to entice us to stick with the product and be hyped. The guy next to me just said “We’ll wait for service pack 2″.
Yeap, I remember it was Bill Gates presenting Windows and it crashed. But nonetheless, the product shipped and the world bought. Will it happen for Vista again? Microsoft came over and did a snazzy presentation on BBC using Vista to deliver unparalleled rich UX to entice us to stick with the product and be hyped. The guy next to me just said “We’ll wait for service pack 2″.
[...] Simple Enough SolutionMicrosoft Watchers: Delay Next Windows Version 4 August 2006 @ 12:15AM Microsoft’s next operating system–Windows Vista–is still not ready forprime-time. At least that’s the view of two prominent Microsoft watchers who have been testing pre-release versions of the system. Robert McLaws writes: I’ve been defending Microsoft’s ship schedule for Windows Vista for quite some time. Up to this point, I’ve been confident that Vista would be at the quality level it needs to be by RC1 to make the launch fantastic. Having tested several builds between Beta 2 and today, I hate to say that I no longer feel that way. And former Microsoft employee Robert Scoble adds: This sucker is just not ready. Too many things are too slow and/or don’t work. I’ve been on the betas of every Windows OS since Windows 3.1 and Vista is starting to feel good, but it doesn’t feel good enough to release to the factory in October. It feels like it needs a good six more months than that, which would mean a mid-year release next year. In other news, expect some major announcements from Apple next week. [...]
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[...] I know all y’all motherfuckers are excited about Steve Jobs’ keynote speech at the World Wide Developer’s Conference next week, and not because he’s going to announce, as Robert Scoble wrote on Monday, “a dizzying amount of new products,” which may include a new iPhone, a new Mac Pro to replace the PowerMac G5, and possibly movie downloads via the (increasingly misnamed) iTunes Music Store. No, that’s not why you’re excited. [...]
>You know i think when it ships it will just be
>a rip off of the current mac os
NO FARKING WAY!!!!!
It’ll be a rip off full-stop. XP with bigger hardware requirements.
>You know i think when it ships it will just be
>a rip off of the current mac os
NO FARKING WAY!!!!!
It’ll be a rip off full-stop. XP with bigger hardware requirements.
[...] TUAW roundupWWDC banner – Engadget“a dizzying amount of new products.” – ScobleLeopard Feature Set Leaked – PowerPage [...]
[...] Longhorn blogger Robert McLaws kicked off the latest round of back and forth with his musings on whether Microsoft should add an unscheduled Beta 3 to its Vista timetable in order to give the company more time to improve quality. Former Vista cheerleader Robert Scoble weighed in, agreeing that Vista is just not ready. “If this ships in October, I will recommend not installing it and waiting for the first service pack,” Scoble blogged. [...]
[...] “This sucker is just not ready. Too many things are too slow and/or don’t work. I’ve been on the betas of every Windows OS since Windows 3.1 and Vista is starting to feel good, but it doesn’t feel good enough to release to the factory in October. It feels like it needs a good six more months than that, which would mean a mid-year release next year.” –Scobleizer [...]
Well all I have to say is that, vista reworks the kernel, but hasnt changed it which is what they need to do to make it more secure, so they would have to rewrite the kernel which they wont because it will break programs, well heres and easy solution make a version for pc OS upgrade and make a version with the new kernel, i know more work for woftware writers, but geez we need to push away, we need a new kernel, we need new things leave everyone behind, we cant go forward if they have to worry about backwards compatability, move forward thats the key, i think microsoft made a mistake writing the whole OS ground up, now we have so many bugs to deal with, so were gonna have to wait untill a few more os releases before it gets stable enough like xp sp2, u guys remember Windows Me? geez 98 se is more stable,
Well all I have to say is that, vista reworks the kernel, but hasnt changed it which is what they need to do to make it more secure, so they would have to rewrite the kernel which they wont because it will break programs, well heres and easy solution make a version for pc OS upgrade and make a version with the new kernel, i know more work for woftware writers, but geez we need to push away, we need a new kernel, we need new things leave everyone behind, we cant go forward if they have to worry about backwards compatability, move forward thats the key, i think microsoft made a mistake writing the whole OS ground up, now we have so many bugs to deal with, so were gonna have to wait untill a few more os releases before it gets stable enough like xp sp2, u guys remember Windows Me? geez 98 se is more stable,
Excellent show about Vista network stack
http://www.twit.tv/sn51
Excellent show about Vista network stack
http://www.twit.tv/sn51
[...] So, did Apple remove some product announcements from the keynote because Robert Scoble was yammering on his blog (see the last paragraph of this post) like he had just read “Super Secret Apple Rumors”? With comments like “a dizzying amount of new products”, I’m surprised he didin’t leak details of the next iPod: “an eight-pounder with a 10-inch screen!” But I kid Scoble, he’s really a great tech evangelist. I’m just using his post to illustrate the point that people need to think logically. It makes no sense to release a new iPod, iPhone, iToilet, iSneaker (oh wait, technically they already did that) at a developers’ conference. It does make sense to give developers new tools to work with (Leopard, Xcode 3.0, Dashcode/Web Clip) and give them robust enough equipment on which to do it (Mac Pro, Xserve). It would be a bad marketing move to introduce consumer products at an event not held for consumers, but after seeing this much complaining, I’m surprised people didn’t get upset last April when Steve Jobs talked to the Cupertino City Council about Apple’s new campus. Why didn’t he introduce a new product then? What’s wrong?! huh?! Save & share this post with your favorite social bookmarking site:These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...]
[...] Windows Vista keeps getting better, and better, and better. Granted, it’s been delayed a heck of a lot – I’m agreeing with Robert Scoble on this one. If the features make the waits worthwhile – no one will care. And from what I’ve seen about Vista Shadow Copy, and now Windows Vista Photo Gallery, I’m beginning to think that the wait will be well worth it for what we’re going to get. [...]
TYTJ
TYTJ
[...] Word on the web is that “Apple is readying a dizzying amount of new products” (Scobleizer). [...]
[...] The post was commented on a lot, and I was one of the commenter’s – but today I installed build 5536, and I am absolutely blown away by how much more stable, how much faster, and how much more feature full it is over the build of just a month ago! [...]
[...] Word on the web is that “Apple is readying a dizzying amount of new products” (Scobleizer). [...]
[...] Meanwhile, responding to recent online concerns over “sluggish” performance, Vista evangelist Keith Combs early in August also told readers to expect gains from ReadyDrive-capable hard drives. [...]
[...] On July 31st Robert Scoble wrote a blog post that basically said Vista wasn’t ready. Based on my experience with it, I agreed with him (see the comments, #5). [...]
“If this ships in October, I will recommend not installing it and waiting for the first service pack. There’s no way the quality will be high enough to trust it if it ships early.”
“If this ships in October, I will recommend not installing it and waiting for the first service pack. There’s no way the quality will be high enough to trust it if it ships early.”
Hate is an understatement. I despise this operating system, literally.
I was one of the earlier adopters and after forking over much tango denero to buy this sorry excuse for an operating system, I soon came to realize it would be littered with more bugs than a 400 year-old wooden porch.
Crashes occured daily, blue screens a plenty. You name it. And that is not even considering the lack of driver support. This GIGO operating system found ways to surprise me, and in a bad way.
So I waited patiently, thinking SP1 would save the day. Last week, I installed SP1, only to have this operating system show me new blue screens of frozen tundra. Crashing daily, sometimes twice a day! This for me is quite common. And this is a clean install computer!
Gates, give me back my damn money! You should be paying me to use this junk!
Hate is an understatement. I despise this operating system, literally.
I was one of the earlier adopters and after forking over much tango denero to buy this sorry excuse for an operating system, I soon came to realize it would be littered with more bugs than a 400 year-old wooden porch.
Crashes occured daily, blue screens a plenty. You name it. And that is not even considering the lack of driver support. This GIGO operating system found ways to surprise me, and in a bad way.
So I waited patiently, thinking SP1 would save the day. Last week, I installed SP1, only to have this operating system show me new blue screens of frozen tundra. Crashing daily, sometimes twice a day! This for me is quite common. And this is a clean install computer!
Gates, give me back my damn money! You should be paying me to use this junk!