Microsoft helping Firefox team?

There’s a minor dustup because it’s been reported that the Firefox team was invited to visit Microsoft up in Redmond. Lots of conspiracy theories.

But this demonstrates that the religious don’t understand how Microsoft works and why it got big.

I remember visiting with developers from all of Microsoft’s fiercest competitors at Microsoft’s headquarters in Redmond. Google. Oracle. Sun. Apple.

This isn’t the first trip that members of the Firefox team have made to Microsoft, either. I remember being in some top secret and high-level meetings that I wish I could tell you more about — but my NDA still holds.

Anyway, the reason Microsoft does this? Because by helping its competitors it helps itself. Think about this: if Windows is the best place to run Firefox, won’t you be more likely to use Windows?

And, for the Firefox team (or any team, really) they get some deep technical help from people who really understand Windows, plus they can go visit the developers who work on Windows and build relationships that are invaluable to understanding things.

Oh, and Firefox team members can even work with IE team members to help make sure that both products work the same, which makes our lives better.

60 thoughts on “Microsoft helping Firefox team?

  1. @Robert, “if Windows is the best place to run Firefox, won’t you be more likely to use Windows?”

    Windows has never been the best place to run anything, and has reached its apotheosis in the bloated DRM-encumbered resource hog that is Vista. Vista (aka 2003 in drag) is the culmination of all of Microsoft’s years of abusing its monopoly, being as it is the expression of a lazy, arrogant and incompetent company that has been isolated from real competition in a world of its own making. Now, with delicious irony and in a manner that is poetically just, Microsoft is going to be hoist on its own petard. It can’t come soon enough.

  2. @Robert, “if Windows is the best place to run Firefox, won’t you be more likely to use Windows?”

    Windows has never been the best place to run anything, and has reached its apotheosis in the bloated DRM-encumbered resource hog that is Vista. Vista (aka 2003 in drag) is the culmination of all of Microsoft’s years of abusing its monopoly, being as it is the expression of a lazy, arrogant and incompetent company that has been isolated from real competition in a world of its own making. Now, with delicious irony and in a manner that is poetically just, Microsoft is going to be hoist on its own petard. It can’t come soon enough.

  3. THe current release of Safari has numerous Javascript issues. The WebKit builds are much better, but who knows if they’ll be integrated into Safari pre-leopard

  4. THe current release of Safari has numerous Javascript issues. The WebKit builds are much better, but who knows if they’ll be integrated into Safari pre-leopard

  5. Microsoft did this for Opera too.
    Opera devs had their meeting at Microsoft last week. You can read the accounts from Opera devs. Sounds like they had a good time; had lunch with IE guys, bought MS shirts at the Microsoft Company Store, visited the Space Needle, etc. (Oh, they also did real work, and visted an Opera user group meeting.)

    See:
    http://my.opera.com/dstorey/blog/show.dml/419834
    http://operawatch.com/news/2006/08/opera-visits-microsoft-in-prepar
    http://my.opera.com/olli/blog/show.dml/417961
    http://annevankesteren.nl/2006/08/opera-vista

  6. Microsoft did this for Opera too.
    Opera devs had their meeting at Microsoft last week. You can read the accounts from Opera devs. Sounds like they had a good time; had lunch with IE guys, bought MS shirts at the Microsoft Company Store, visited the Space Needle, etc. (Oh, they also did real work, and visted an Opera user group meeting.)

    See:
    http://my.opera.com/dstorey/blog/show.dml/419834
    http://operawatch.com/news/2006/08/opera-visits-microsoft-in-prepar
    http://my.opera.com/olli/blog/show.dml/417961
    http://annevankesteren.nl/2006/08/opera-vista

  7. “Interesting comments to which I can only add this: Microsoft should just drop IE and use Firefox as browser of choice…”

    Interesting idea, but the hackers would immediately turn their guns on Firefox. And Firefox has plenty of holes, as the ever more frequent Firefox security updates prove.

  8. “Interesting comments to which I can only add this: Microsoft should just drop IE and use Firefox as browser of choice…”

    Interesting idea, but the hackers would immediately turn their guns on Firefox. And Firefox has plenty of holes, as the ever more frequent Firefox security updates prove.

  9. “One thing I’m noticing is more and more Web sites only really support Firefox. That’s a trend that the IE team should be greatly concerned about. ”

    Seems that Apple should be concerned about it as well. There are many Web 2.0 sites that don’t work properly on Safari. :(

  10. “One thing I’m noticing is more and more Web sites only really support Firefox. That’s a trend that the IE team should be greatly concerned about. ”

    Seems that Apple should be concerned about it as well. There are many Web 2.0 sites that don’t work properly on Safari. :(

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