I thought Google was a search company…

Hmmm, I thought Google hired all the world’s smartest search-engine experts. Don’t they have a few PhD’s hanging out at Google? So, please explain these results as of 11:15 p.m. PST:

IceRocket, two links to the InformationWeek article about Google’s new business service offerings.
Sphere, 57 links
Ask.com, 33 links
Technorati, 9 links (and their numbering is off)
Google’s Blogsearch: zero links. <<– Google, your blog search is an embarrassment. It’s at the top of TechMeme right now (if you click on the options on TechMeme, you can turn on a search bar where you can click on blog searches around the Web).

UPDATE: Yahoo went even further and just turned off its blog search altogether and says “it’s retooling.”

49 thoughts on “I thought Google was a search company…

  1. Yeah, the blog search stinks. However, I thought they’d already said that they acknowledge this and they’re letting it die a slow death. I remember hearing something like that… maybe it was from CNET’s the Daily Buzz?

  2. Yeah, the blog search stinks. However, I thought they’d already said that they acknowledge this and they’re letting it die a slow death. I remember hearing something like that… maybe it was from CNET’s the Daily Buzz?

  3. Hey Robert – Sphere results look great. Most complete and high quality blog posts surfaced to the top – :)

    Best,

  4. Robert,
    I am the product manager on Google Blog Search. Thanks for bringing this to our attention and we have since fixed the bug. Your query should now work. Please let me know if you have other ideas on improving the service.

    Thanks

  5. Robert,
    I am the product manager on Google Blog Search. Thanks for bringing this to our attention and we have since fixed the bug. Your query should now work. Please let me know if you have other ideas on improving the service.

    Thanks

  6. Wow, Robert, how soon you forget:

    “Google blog search with a query for any blogs that are linking to Channel 9. Wow. Fast. Fast. Fast.”

    “Let’s go to Technorati and do the same query. First off the result took more than five seconds. The Google query took less than half a second. This is a HUGE deal for me. I can get a lot more searches in because Google is so much faster. Oh, and Technorati has 20 links.

    I like Google’s design too. Very simplistic. Some might like Technorati’s better, though.

    Oh, with Google’s blog search I can see 100 results all on one page. I don’t see how to do that with Technorati. So, actually, Technorati’s page is a lot slower even yet cause I have to do two searches to see all the results.”

    “But this thing really shines when you click on advanced search. For instance, I did this query for my last name that includes the word “pdc” in any of the posts.

    Wow. Wow. Wow.

    Why wow? Because it’s so freaking fast.

    The speed is what kicks all the other blog search in the teeth. Oh, and you can subscribe to a query via RSS. Look at the bottom of the page.

    Nicely done.”

    “But, not all is lost for Technorati. Technorati seems to have more up to date results than Google.

    Back to doing advanced searches. I just did a search for “PDC” that contained either “Day One” or “1.” Google’s result seems a lot better than Technorati’s.”

    http://radio.weblogs.com/0001011/2005/09/14.html#a11153

    I also could have sworn you made a post on Newsvine saying something to the effect of “…this is definitely a service I’d use”. Can’t find the post, sorry if I’m wrong.

    Anyway, carry on :)

  7. Wow, Robert, how soon you forget:

    “Google blog search with a query for any blogs that are linking to Channel 9. Wow. Fast. Fast. Fast.”

    “Let’s go to Technorati and do the same query. First off the result took more than five seconds. The Google query took less than half a second. This is a HUGE deal for me. I can get a lot more searches in because Google is so much faster. Oh, and Technorati has 20 links.

    I like Google’s design too. Very simplistic. Some might like Technorati’s better, though.

    Oh, with Google’s blog search I can see 100 results all on one page. I don’t see how to do that with Technorati. So, actually, Technorati’s page is a lot slower even yet cause I have to do two searches to see all the results.”

    “But this thing really shines when you click on advanced search. For instance, I did this query for my last name that includes the word “pdc” in any of the posts.

    Wow. Wow. Wow.

    Why wow? Because it’s so freaking fast.

    The speed is what kicks all the other blog search in the teeth. Oh, and you can subscribe to a query via RSS. Look at the bottom of the page.

    Nicely done.”

    “But, not all is lost for Technorati. Technorati seems to have more up to date results than Google.

    Back to doing advanced searches. I just did a search for “PDC” that contained either “Day One” or “1.” Google’s result seems a lot better than Technorati’s.”

    http://radio.weblogs.com/0001011/2005/09/14.html#a11153

    I also could have sworn you made a post on Newsvine saying something to the effect of “…this is definitely a service I’d use”. Can’t find the post, sorry if I’m wrong.

    Anyway, carry on :)

  8. Robert, That query is looking for the URL in the text. If you want people linking to an article, simply put link: in front of the URL. This works exactly like regular Google search. Hope this helps.

  9. Robert, That query is looking for the URL in the text. If you want people linking to an article, simply put link: in front of the URL. This works exactly like regular Google search. Hope this helps.

  10. I think the blogsearch guys are optimizing for searches like [google apps domain] and less so for backlink queries to news articles with parameters. I’ll certainly pass on the feedback.

    But if you compare that search to technorati’s current results, Google’s blogsearch does return more feeds I would have expected/wanted to see (Search Egnine Watch, ResourceShelf from Gary Price of Ask, Anil Dash, Dare, Matt Marshall from siliconbeat, Google Blogoscoped, etc.)

    Try it yourself:
    http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?q=google+apps+domain
    http://technorati.com/search/google%20apps%20domain

    I’m seeing a non-English result from technorati (http://magic3.net/item/965), a lifehacker post (lifehacker is a great source, but not a domain expert necessarily in this instance), a reprinted AP article syndicated to linuxtoday.com–not great. They do have an article by Nick Carr, which I would have wanted in the top 10. So points for returning Carr, but I think Google’s blogsearch does quite well on that search.

    I’ll still pass on the feedback that you want more backlinks though. :)

  11. I think the blogsearch guys are optimizing for searches like [google apps domain] and less so for backlink queries to news articles with parameters. I’ll certainly pass on the feedback.

    But if you compare that search to technorati’s current results, Google’s blogsearch does return more feeds I would have expected/wanted to see (Search Egnine Watch, ResourceShelf from Gary Price of Ask, Anil Dash, Dare, Matt Marshall from siliconbeat, Google Blogoscoped, etc.)

    Try it yourself:
    http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?q=google+apps+domain
    http://technorati.com/search/google%20apps%20domain

    I’m seeing a non-English result from technorati (http://magic3.net/item/965), a lifehacker post (lifehacker is a great source, but not a domain expert necessarily in this instance), a reprinted AP article syndicated to linuxtoday.com–not great. They do have an article by Nick Carr, which I would have wanted in the top 10. So points for returning Carr, but I think Google’s blogsearch does quite well on that search.

    I’ll still pass on the feedback that you want more backlinks though. :)

  12. Anonymous: I never gave Google blog search much praise. Please back up that claim. And Newsvine? I don’t remember even talking about that. I’ve always used Newsgator.

  13. Anonymous: I never gave Google blog search much praise. Please back up that claim. And Newsvine? I don’t remember even talking about that. I’ve always used Newsgator.

  14. Hehe, funny that you gave it so much praise when it launched. That and Newsvine…do you even use Newsvine these days?

  15. Hehe, funny that you gave it so much praise when it launched. That and Newsvine…do you even use Newsvine these days?

  16. If you use the Google Blog search to look for “Google business suite,” the first article is relevant.

    If you search for “Google InformationWeek,” the second article is the TechMeme post.

  17. If you use the Google Blog search to look for “Google business suite,” the first article is relevant.

    If you search for “Google InformationWeek,” the second article is the TechMeme post.

  18. I’ve never really trusted Google to be the search engine with the most up to date data. Technorati is blog oriented, therefore, when I want to know right now what happens on the blogosphere, that’s where I’ll head to.

    Google acquiring Technorati? Would be a sensible move. Maybe Google could straighten the loose part of Technorati. Namely a shaky reliability of their database.

  19. I’ve never really trusted Google to be the search engine with the most up to date data. Technorati is blog oriented, therefore, when I want to know right now what happens on the blogosphere, that’s where I’ll head to.

    Google acquiring Technorati? Would be a sensible move. Maybe Google could straighten the loose part of Technorati. Namely a shaky reliability of their database.

  20. Google Debuted the site one day early – possibly because it was leaked – and of course that means Digg will pick it up

    http://digg.com/software/Google_Office_Biz_Suite_Site_Debuts

    It is already on Digg Front page

    However, in reference to the point about NOT having the
    informationweek ARTICLE on their Blog search, Google perhaps distinguishes TECHNICALLY between Blogs and Articles.

    Doing a URL Site query search for Informationweek – there was NOTHING, howver every single well known blog that was searched for was included

  21. Google Debuted the site one day early – possibly because it was leaked – and of course that means Digg will pick it up

    http://digg.com/software/Google_Office_Biz_Suite_Site_Debuts

    It is already on Digg Front page

    However, in reference to the point about NOT having the
    informationweek ARTICLE on their Blog search, Google perhaps distinguishes TECHNICALLY between Blogs and Articles.

    Doing a URL Site query search for Informationweek – there was NOTHING, howver every single well known blog that was searched for was included

  22. Just to be fair, I think this may be a problem with Google Blogsearch stripping out parameters from links.

    Compare the following two google blogsearches:

    http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.informationweek.com%2Fsoftware%2FshowArticle.jhtml%3FarticleID%3D192300431&btnG=Search+Blogs

    (results: 0)

    http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=link:http://www.informationweek.com/software/&scoring=d

    (results: a lot)

    Note that trimming off the end of this url resulted in lots of relevant people linking to the article showing up.

    Verdict: What you’re seeing is clearly not a ‘search’ problem, but it’s definitely a bug!

    On the other hand, I have seen Google have issues with freshness in the past in their main index, but I don’t think that’s what’s happening here.

  23. Just to be fair, I think this may be a problem with Google Blogsearch stripping out parameters from links.

    Compare the following two google blogsearches:

    http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.informationweek.com%2Fsoftware%2FshowArticle.jhtml%3FarticleID%3D192300431&btnG=Search+Blogs

    (results: 0)

    http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=link:http://www.informationweek.com/software/&scoring=d

    (results: a lot)

    Note that trimming off the end of this url resulted in lots of relevant people linking to the article showing up.

    Verdict: What you’re seeing is clearly not a ‘search’ problem, but it’s definitely a bug!

    On the other hand, I have seen Google have issues with freshness in the past in their main index, but I don’t think that’s what’s happening here.

  24. I’ve noticed in recent weeks that Google Blog Search is a lot more susceptible to blogbots lately.

    I think I’ll start using Technorati more.

  25. I’ve noticed in recent weeks that Google Blog Search is a lot more susceptible to blogbots lately.

    I think I’ll start using Technorati more.

  26. Repeat after me, Google is NOT a Search Company, they are an Advertising Company.

    Lexis/Nexis, Westlaw and etc., now those are search companies…

  27. Repeat after me, Google is NOT a Search Company, they are an Advertising Company.

    Lexis/Nexis, Westlaw and etc., now those are search companies…

  28. From what I have noticed Google’s blog search isn’t all that effective.

    The other links you posted above show a lot more!

    BTW, technorati says 791 links not 9, or is it some bug?

  29. From what I have noticed Google’s blog search isn’t all that effective.

    The other links you posted above show a lot more!

    BTW, technorati says 791 links not 9, or is it some bug?

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