HP news all over the place

September 28, 2006 By

I promised no more HP news, but sorry, this story (seen here on Google News) just continues to get attention from all corners of the business world. I never imagined that it would get so bad when I first started reading about it and reacting to it. But, my initial instincts (that the smell from this board were awful and a huge price needed to be paid by HP’s top management) are still in place. I wish it weren’t so, but Congress was firing away today.

Best quote I saw was in this article by the New York Times:

In a brief moment of laughter in an otherwise tense interrogation, Representative Joe Barton, Republican of Texas, told Dunn, “If I called you up, Dunn, and asked you for your phone records for the last six months, would you give me that?”

“In your position,” Dunn said, then added after a pause, “I would give you my phone records.” The room exploded with laughter, and Barton replied, “Well, praise the Lord, I wouldn’t give you mine.”

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  • http://www.glpelletier.wordpress.com/ Guy Pelletier

    I fear, like Enron, this will not only not go away, but will engulf everything it touches.
    Corporate America is suffering.

    Guy

  • http://www.glpelletier.wordpress.com Guy Pelletier

    I fear, like Enron, this will not only not go away, but will engulf everything it touches.
    Corporate America is suffering.

    Guy

  • http://peterdawson.typepad.com/ /pd

    Any idea why General Legal counsel Resigned early this AM ?? by this move, she forfeits the need to testify (Or at least that’s what I hear)

  • http://peterdawson.typepad.com /pd

    Any idea why General Legal counsel Resigned early this AM ?? by this move, she forfeits the need to testify (Or at least that’s what I hear)

  • http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd John Dowdell

    … but the New York Times recently declassified selected material, with anonymous trackbacks, and seems to have gotten the story way, ‘way wrong. Why would you trust the NYT anymore? Why are their actions less objectionable than those of HP?

    The congressional exchange offers insight, too. Under threat of political force, the moral & ethical issues become moot.

    For another example of double-standards, try searching on “‘anthony pellicano’ telephone”, then “‘anthony pellicano’ telephone gracen”. In some cases the actions are judged objectionable, and in some cases they are buried without notice.

    I’m asking for some consistency here… let the bloodlust fade, and look for the principles. We _all_ have to deal with _all_ the ways that _all_ our data can be misused. Focusing on just a few actors is out of proportion to the real issues involved.

  • http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd John Dowdell

    … but the New York Times recently declassified selected material, with anonymous trackbacks, and seems to have gotten the story way, ‘way wrong. Why would you trust the NYT anymore? Why are their actions less objectionable than those of HP?

    The congressional exchange offers insight, too. Under threat of political force, the moral & ethical issues become moot.

    For another example of double-standards, try searching on “‘anthony pellicano’ telephone”, then “‘anthony pellicano’ telephone gracen”. In some cases the actions are judged objectionable, and in some cases they are buried without notice.

    I’m asking for some consistency here… let the bloodlust fade, and look for the principles. We _all_ have to deal with _all_ the ways that _all_ our data can be misused. Focusing on just a few actors is out of proportion to the real issues involved.

  • http://www.suppositio.us/ suppositio.us

    Being not only Suppositio.us, but
    a heck of a promiser
    - which is nothing like
    being promiscuous -
    Suppositio.us promises to
    tell the world why
    all of this is
    - in a certian way -
    good news and
    reveal the timing
    of the wonderful
    economic result.

    Promise.

    ‘sup!

  • http://www.suppositio.us suppositio.us

    Being not only Suppositio.us, but
    a heck of a promiser
    - which is nothing like
    being promiscuous -
    Suppositio.us promises to
    tell the world why
    all of this is
    - in a certian way -
    good news and
    reveal the timing
    of the wonderful
    economic result.

    Promise.

    ‘sup!

  • Russ Henry

    It is about time people in all industries have the fear of God put in them. American can no longer tolerate the end justifies the means logic. Technical Evangelists need to preach that violation of ethics although shame on you is bad, can also land your dirty little butts in jail. Think about it when someone asks you to look the other way. Beware how deep dirt goes. It could cost you your job trying to root it out.

    What do we teach our kidds? The falsified records reported on BART breakpads cuased an investigation to be launched. It cost the whistle blower his job and career.(Case study in very old ethics class)

    How many folks who were viewed as competition were taken out by fabricated dirt by the Dungs (SP)of this world? I hope Congress continues to call the TB’s on the carpet for wrong doing. The end never justifies unethical/ illegal behavior unless you are “Jack Bauer” and its Hollywood. Kinda makes you go Hmmmmm?

  • Russ Henry

    It is about time people in all industries have the fear of God put in them. American can no longer tolerate the end justifies the means logic. Technical Evangelists need to preach that violation of ethics although shame on you is bad, can also land your dirty little butts in jail. Think about it when someone asks you to look the other way. Beware how deep dirt goes. It could cost you your job trying to root it out.

    What do we teach our kidds? The falsified records reported on BART breakpads cuased an investigation to be launched. It cost the whistle blower his job and career.(Case study in very old ethics class)

    How many folks who were viewed as competition were taken out by fabricated dirt by the Dungs (SP)of this world? I hope Congress continues to call the TB’s on the carpet for wrong doing. The end never justifies unethical/ illegal behavior unless you are “Jack Bauer” and its Hollywood. Kinda makes you go Hmmmmm?

  • Christopher Coulter

    Only this will only grow bigger…the biggest news yet hasn’t even broke. No one (oddly) wants to take the first leap, but watch, after someone does, it will wolfpack, HP will be piranha bone-dry. I am wagering, Drudge will get the scoop.

  • Christopher Coulter

    Only this will only grow bigger…the biggest news yet hasn’t even broke. No one (oddly) wants to take the first leap, but watch, after someone does, it will wolfpack, HP will be piranha bone-dry. I am wagering, Drudge will get the scoop.

  • LayZ

    @6 The only reason that is now is because Congress now wants their ugly mugs in front of the camera concerning the issue. Congress really has no business being involved in this, but what are you gonna do? It’s close to election time. Nothing like free campaign advertising…

    This is nothing more than a dysfunctional board making dumb decisions. Hell, the leak they were investigating was basically known information. Not excusing the board’s actions. But, even smart people make dumb decsions (See:Clinton/Lewinsky. Scoble going to PodTech)

    And the reason some are taking the 5th is likely beacuse of California’s Aspiring Governor Lockyear’s statements he made about crimes being committed before having done any investigation. Again, talk about smart people making dumb decsions.

  • LayZ

    @6 The only reason that is now is because Congress now wants their ugly mugs in front of the camera concerning the issue. Congress really has no business being involved in this, but what are you gonna do? It’s close to election time. Nothing like free campaign advertising…

    This is nothing more than a dysfunctional board making dumb decisions. Hell, the leak they were investigating was basically known information. Not excusing the board’s actions. But, even smart people make dumb decsions (See:Clinton/Lewinsky. Scoble going to PodTech)

    And the reason some are taking the 5th is likely beacuse of California’s Aspiring Governor Lockyear’s statements he made about crimes being committed before having done any investigation. Again, talk about smart people making dumb decsions.

  • http://www.thoughts-illustrated.blogspot.com/ dave davison

    Robert: for a contra indication of HP take a look at this from the CTO of Voodoo announcing their acquistion by HP
    Rahul Sood’s Weblog

    Maybe with Dunn done and gone, Hurd can start taking the wraps off of the Innovators at HP.

  • http://www.thoughts-illustrated.blogspot.com dave davison

    Robert: for a contra indication of HP take a look at this from the CTO of Voodoo announcing their acquistion by HP
    Rahul Sood’s Weblog

    Maybe with Dunn done and gone, Hurd can start taking the wraps off of the Innovators at HP.

  • Christopher Coulter

    This is nothing more than a dysfunctional board making dumb decisions.

    Not this time. Dysfunctional and dumb yes, but it went well well beyond the board. The Valley is corporate espionage central, HP touched the nerve center, well worth a Congressional look, imho. Dunn’s a patsy, arrogance did her in. And, insofar as Lockyer, crimes can be committed, without charges being filed, as the SEC disclosures, where but an HP admission of guilt, crime already. Bill was the sound-bite Eliot Spitzer king tho, with “colossally stupid” and “stupid cubed”. Forever the new HP Motto…

    Although certain amount of hypocritical irony in the House voting to loosen the governmental espionage handcuffs, while bearing down on corporate espionage. With the Feds doing the work FOR the corps when it’s foreign-national competitors.

    Hurd gonna hafta go, he’s taking the ‘too busy running company’ line, but if the reporters weren’t so legally wrapped up in this, the full picture would seep out far quicker. But give it time…give it time. Clean slate, all over the map, only way to get beyond this.

  • Christopher Coulter

    This is nothing more than a dysfunctional board making dumb decisions.

    Not this time. Dysfunctional and dumb yes, but it went well well beyond the board. The Valley is corporate espionage central, HP touched the nerve center, well worth a Congressional look, imho. Dunn’s a patsy, arrogance did her in. And, insofar as Lockyer, crimes can be committed, without charges being filed, as the SEC disclosures, where but an HP admission of guilt, crime already. Bill was the sound-bite Eliot Spitzer king tho, with “colossally stupid” and “stupid cubed”. Forever the new HP Motto…

    Although certain amount of hypocritical irony in the House voting to loosen the governmental espionage handcuffs, while bearing down on corporate espionage. With the Feds doing the work FOR the corps when it’s foreign-national competitors.

    Hurd gonna hafta go, he’s taking the ‘too busy running company’ line, but if the reporters weren’t so legally wrapped up in this, the full picture would seep out far quicker. But give it time…give it time. Clean slate, all over the map, only way to get beyond this.