Who cares about conference Wifi anymore?

Ethan Kaplan does. He complains about spending $3,500 to attend a conference without being able to get good Wifi.

Damn dude. If you can afford $3,500 for a conference then spend $80 a month on Verizon Wireless like I do. You won’t care anymore about conference Wifi. My Verizon wireless worked just fine the whole conference.

So, what should we care about? Access to power outlets! :-)

  • http://www.blackrimglasses.com/ Ethan

    Fair point Mr. Scoble. If I could get to Verizon’s website…. I’d be doing that.

    Speaking of: has anyone added up the cost of ubiquitous connectivity per month for a road warrior type? That includes TMobile hot spots, blackberry, mail hosting, cell service, etc?

    Chrispy crap.

    Let it be known: another Verizon client coming soon.

  • http://www.blackrimglasses.com Ethan

    Fair point Mr. Scoble. If I could get to Verizon’s website…. I’d be doing that.

    Speaking of: has anyone added up the cost of ubiquitous connectivity per month for a road warrior type? That includes TMobile hot spots, blackberry, mail hosting, cell service, etc?

    Chrispy crap.

    Let it be known: another Verizon client coming soon.

  • http://www.nbwheeling.org/~aball Adam

    I wish my company would spring for the Verizon card for me. They are willing to let me go to conferences but not get those little things that might make my job easier. We are Pound-wise and penny-foolish.

    If you only go to one or two conferences a year, there is almost no reason to spend $80/month on a Verizon card just for the one or two weeks you are out. C’mon, I agree, it’d be nice to have wireless at a con.

  • http://www.nbwheeling.org/~aball Adam

    I wish my company would spring for the Verizon card for me. They are willing to let me go to conferences but not get those little things that might make my job easier. We are Pound-wise and penny-foolish.

    If you only go to one or two conferences a year, there is almost no reason to spend $80/month on a Verizon card just for the one or two weeks you are out. C’mon, I agree, it’d be nice to have wireless at a con.

  • http://www.jkontherun.com/ Kevin C. Tofel

    Robert, I’ve been meaning to ask why you’re paying $80 a month for EV-DO through Verizon. I’m assuming you have an EV-DO PC Card modem, but…what phone do you use? I dumped my PC Card modem and contract when I got an EV-DO enabled phone which has the same data connectivity for $45 a month. Phone as modem = same performance – lower cost + happy blogger. ;)

  • http://www.jkontherun.com Kevin C. Tofel

    Robert, I’ve been meaning to ask why you’re paying $80 a month for EV-DO through Verizon. I’m assuming you have an EV-DO PC Card modem, but…what phone do you use? I dumped my PC Card modem and contract when I got an EV-DO enabled phone which has the same data connectivity for $45 a month. Phone as modem = same performance – lower cost + happy blogger. ;)

  • http://scobleizer.wordpress.com/ Robert Scoble

    Kevin: I have a Cingular 2125. I should go that route, but could never get the EV-DO to work on my phone.

  • http://scobleizer.wordpress.com/ Robert Scoble

    Kevin: I have a Cingular 2125. I should go that route, but could never get the EV-DO to work on my phone.

  • http://miniaturemage.blogspot.com/ MiniMage

    I guess I’m the complete opposite of Ethan. Today I attended a free user group meeting to hear Chris Reinhold [MSFT] introduce Microsoft Forefront, MS’s new security suite. The computing society had an AirPort, and I also had an EVDO phone with Sprint’s $15 a month Power Vision plan. I dream that pne day, I might get to a big conference (I’d settle attending one at 1/3 Ethan’s cost), and I guess I’ll be ready. Maybe it’s time to start writing that justification for sending me to the next Tech.Ed…

    Perspectives and priorities can be peculiar!

  • http://miniaturemage.blogspot.com MiniMage

    I guess I’m the complete opposite of Ethan. Today I attended a free user group meeting to hear Chris Reinhold [MSFT] introduce Microsoft Forefront, MS’s new security suite. The computing society had an AirPort, and I also had an EVDO phone with Sprint’s $15 a month Power Vision plan. I dream that pne day, I might get to a big conference (I’d settle attending one at 1/3 Ethan’s cost), and I guess I’ll be ready. Maybe it’s time to start writing that justification for sending me to the next Tech.Ed…

    Perspectives and priorities can be peculiar!

  • http://www.webpronews.com/ Rich Ord

    Robert, we have several unlimited Verizon Wireless accounts and they are only $59 a month now. If you are signed up at for $80 per month you have an old price. Contact Verizon and they will lower your price on request.

    Rich Ord

    Publisher of WebProNews.com

  • http://www.webpronews.com Rich Ord

    Robert, we have several unlimited Verizon Wireless accounts and they are only $59 a month now. If you are signed up at for $80 per month you have an old price. Contact Verizon and they will lower your price on request.

    Rich Ord

    Publisher of WebProNews.com

  • http://scobleizer.wordpress.com/ Robert Scoble

    Rich: I just looked at my bill and I’m paying $59 too. I forgot about that. Thanks!

  • http://scobleizer.wordpress.com/ Robert Scoble

    Rich: I just looked at my bill and I’m paying $59 too. I forgot about that. Thanks!

  • http://scobleizer.wordpress.com/ Robert Scoble

    Adam: you’d be right, but the Verizon card pays many other benefits as well. But, yeah, getting bosses to pay for stuff, even if it’d make you more productive, is a pain in the ass, isn’t it?

  • http://scobleizer.wordpress.com/ Robert Scoble

    Adam: you’d be right, but the Verizon card pays many other benefits as well. But, yeah, getting bosses to pay for stuff, even if it’d make you more productive, is a pain in the ass, isn’t it?

  • PXLated

    One problem for most is EVDO is only available in the large cities. Get away from those 100 or so and EVDO is a none starter, it’s nowhere. WiFi is much more ubiquitous and usually faster.

  • PXLated

    One problem for most is EVDO is only available in the large cities. Get away from those 100 or so and EVDO is a none starter, it’s nowhere. WiFi is much more ubiquitous and usually faster.

  • http://trishussey.com Tris Hussey

    I need the free WiFi because even though I have EVDO on my Blackberry, the roaming charges from Canada to the States are killer! That said, if I wind up being in the States a lot I might just get an American EVDO phone for travelling.

  • http://blog.larixconsulting.com/ Tris Hussey

    I need the free WiFi because even though I have EVDO on my Blackberry, the roaming charges from Canada to the States are killer! That said, if I wind up being in the States a lot I might just get an American EVDO phone for travelling.

  • http://scobleizer.wordpress.com/ Robert Scoble

    PXLated: That is absolutely 100% NOT TRUE.

    My Verizon Card worked on the interstate highway EVERWHERE between SF and Seattle and between Seattle and Montana and between Montana and San Francisco.

    If I can get a cell phone signal my Verizon wireless card works and works well.

    Wifi is usually faster, though, but isn’t even CLOSE to as ubiquitous, especially in small towns like those in Montana.

    Verizon Wireless ABSOLUTELY ROCKS compared to Wifi. Not even close. And it doesn’t cost me money in airports, hotels, or when I want to sit in Starbucks and do some email.

  • http://scobleizer.wordpress.com/ Robert Scoble

    PXLated: That is absolutely 100% NOT TRUE.

    My Verizon Card worked on the interstate highway EVERWHERE between SF and Seattle and between Seattle and Montana and between Montana and San Francisco.

    If I can get a cell phone signal my Verizon wireless card works and works well.

    Wifi is usually faster, though, but isn’t even CLOSE to as ubiquitous, especially in small towns like those in Montana.

    Verizon Wireless ABSOLUTELY ROCKS compared to Wifi. Not even close. And it doesn’t cost me money in airports, hotels, or when I want to sit in Starbucks and do some email.

  • http://scobleizer.wordpress.com/ Robert Scoble

    Tris: good point. Using cell phone and wireless services outside of your calling zone is ridiculously expensive. I remember getting hit with a $400 bill one time after being in Vancouver, which is just 15 miles over the border from the US.

    Obviously when I’m talking here I’m talking about the United States. When I’m overseas I rely way too much on Wifi.

  • http://scobleizer.wordpress.com/ Robert Scoble

    Tris: good point. Using cell phone and wireless services outside of your calling zone is ridiculously expensive. I remember getting hit with a $400 bill one time after being in Vancouver, which is just 15 miles over the border from the US.

    Obviously when I’m talking here I’m talking about the United States. When I’m overseas I rely way too much on Wifi.

  • http://www.jkontherun.com/ Kevin C. Tofel

    Robert, in the spirit of the MasterCard commercials:

    Monthly EV-DO on old plan = $80
    Monthly EV-DO on updated plan = $59
    One time PDANet license fee from JuneFabrics = $34
    New monthly EV-DO plan on phone only = $45
    Verizon EV-DO with phone as a modem = priceless

    http://junefabrics.com/pdanet/index.php

    Ping me off list with any questions. :) I use the PDANet setup with my XV6700 and Samsung Q1 UMPC for my all-day, every day mobile office. Works flawlessly.

  • http://www.jkontherun.com Kevin C. Tofel

    Robert, in the spirit of the MasterCard commercials:

    Monthly EV-DO on old plan = $80
    Monthly EV-DO on updated plan = $59
    One time PDANet license fee from JuneFabrics = $34
    New monthly EV-DO plan on phone only = $45
    Verizon EV-DO with phone as a modem = priceless

    http://junefabrics.com/pdanet/index.php

    Ping me off list with any questions. :) I use the PDANet setup with my XV6700 and Samsung Q1 UMPC for my all-day, every day mobile office. Works flawlessly.

  • Anthony

    The problem isn’t that wireless sucks; it’s that 500 people are trying to use it at the same time in a small space. There are only 3 channels (3 access points) you can use in a small space without interference. Also to get good performance you only want about 30 people on one access point. 30 people * 3 access points = 90 people total. 500 people just overload it.

    The other problem is when people are transmitting their own laptops as an ad-hoc network. It interferes with the access points and degrades the experience even further.

    Just my two cents.

  • Anthony

    The problem isn’t that wireless sucks; it’s that 500 people are trying to use it at the same time in a small space. There are only 3 channels (3 access points) you can use in a small space without interference. Also to get good performance you only want about 30 people on one access point. 30 people * 3 access points = 90 people total. 500 people just overload it.

    The other problem is when people are transmitting their own laptops as an ad-hoc network. It interferes with the access points and degrades the experience even further.

    Just my two cents.

  • PXLated

    Robert…ok, I’ll amend my comment as it totally depends on “exactly” where you’re traveling. It’s great you got it on your trip. I’ve just spent hours in the Verizon, Sprint, Cingular stores discussing broadband coverage. According to all of them, in the major metro areas fast. Along some freeways between major cities dialup to fast. Off the freeway and off the beaten track but getting a “native” signal, dialup speed. Off the beaten path with no native signal, shit out of luck.
    For my travels, WiFi is more consistently available, just not always on.

  • PXLated

    Robert…ok, I’ll amend my comment as it totally depends on “exactly” where you’re traveling. It’s great you got it on your trip. I’ve just spent hours in the Verizon, Sprint, Cingular stores discussing broadband coverage. According to all of them, in the major metro areas fast. Along some freeways between major cities dialup to fast. Off the freeway and off the beaten track but getting a “native” signal, dialup speed. Off the beaten path with no native signal, shit out of luck.
    For my travels, WiFi is more consistently available, just not always on.

  • http://www.damnralph.com/ Ralph Whitbeck

    EV-DO isn’t a cost effective feature for all of us. On the East coast at least the last time I checked the coverage for it wasn’t good at all…and since everywhere I go I have wifi coverage…having a EV-DO card to cover the 5% without wifi just isn’t worth it.

    I am not one to pay $3500 for a conference either so I don’t fall in that “upper-class-geek-bracket”.

    Would I love to have anywhere access to the internet with my laptop…sure. But what would be great is that EV-DO or technology that did the same thing was embedded into my laptop like wifi is so that I didn’t have a card sticking out.

  • http://www.damnralph.com Ralph Whitbeck

    EV-DO isn’t a cost effective feature for all of us. On the East coast at least the last time I checked the coverage for it wasn’t good at all…and since everywhere I go I have wifi coverage…having a EV-DO card to cover the 5% without wifi just isn’t worth it.

    I am not one to pay $3500 for a conference either so I don’t fall in that “upper-class-geek-bracket”.

    Would I love to have anywhere access to the internet with my laptop…sure. But what would be great is that EV-DO or technology that did the same thing was embedded into my laptop like wifi is so that I didn’t have a card sticking out.

  • http://scobleizer.wordpress.com/ Robert Scoble

    Ralph: it worked everywhere in New York and Boston that I went. Don’t know about further out than that.

    PX: I don’t do a lot of backroad traveling. Generally I stick to the interstates. :-)

    It didn’t work where my cell phone didn’t work. But, it often worked in places I couldn’t get cell phone coverage at. For instance, here at home TMobile doesn’t work at all, but it works great. Or, at my mom’s house in Montana, Cingular doesn’t work at all, but the Verizon card worked just fine.

    The most infuriating thing is that Wifi is lots of places, like at the Ritz down the road. But they charge for access.

  • http://scobleizer.wordpress.com/ Robert Scoble

    Ralph: it worked everywhere in New York and Boston that I went. Don’t know about further out than that.

    PX: I don’t do a lot of backroad traveling. Generally I stick to the interstates. :-)

    It didn’t work where my cell phone didn’t work. But, it often worked in places I couldn’t get cell phone coverage at. For instance, here at home TMobile doesn’t work at all, but it works great. Or, at my mom’s house in Montana, Cingular doesn’t work at all, but the Verizon card worked just fine.

    The most infuriating thing is that Wifi is lots of places, like at the Ritz down the road. But they charge for access.

  • http://blogs.smugmug.com/onethumb Don MacAskill

    I have an EVDO card on my MBP, but alas, it didn’t work in the Grand Ballroom all morning this morning.

    The rest of the event it’s worked great, though, so I dunno what was up. Too many people taking your advice at once? :)

    FYI, the $16/day wired connectivity in the rooms SUCKED last night, too. Bad WiFi at the $3500 conference (with AOL’s name plastered all over as the provider) + bad wired at the $250/night hotel (plus $16/night for the connectivity) = bad news.

  • http://blogs.smugmug.com/onethumb Don MacAskill

    I have an EVDO card on my MBP, but alas, it didn’t work in the Grand Ballroom all morning this morning.

    The rest of the event it’s worked great, though, so I dunno what was up. Too many people taking your advice at once? :)

    FYI, the $16/day wired connectivity in the rooms SUCKED last night, too. Bad WiFi at the $3500 conference (with AOL’s name plastered all over as the provider) + bad wired at the $250/night hotel (plus $16/night for the connectivity) = bad news.

  • http://trishussey.com Tris Hussey

    Robert, Yes that wouldn’t have been after NorthernVoice and the “How many geeks does it take to find a resturant” incident?

    Personally I’d pay a little extra to have all North America coverage. Even if I could add it on for a week or something. I rely on the speed of my Berry to keep me up to date. Not to mention at a conference I’d gladly use my EVDO instead of conference WiFi to help others out.

    Hey Telus … Rogers … listening? Canadians travel to the US A LOT, we’d like better plans!

  • http://blog.larixconsulting.com/ Tris Hussey

    Robert, Yes that wouldn’t have been after NorthernVoice and the “How many geeks does it take to find a resturant” incident?

    Personally I’d pay a little extra to have all North America coverage. Even if I could add it on for a week or something. I rely on the speed of my Berry to keep me up to date. Not to mention at a conference I’d gladly use my EVDO instead of conference WiFi to help others out.

    Hey Telus … Rogers … listening? Canadians travel to the US A LOT, we’d like better plans!

  • http://www.cogentcompany.com/ Hop

    I’m a huge evdo fan. Just switched from Verizon to Sprint. I live in Texas… where we drive everywhere. I’ve found only a few holes in the network between Dallas-Houston-Austin. I also travel quite a bit around the US, and I’ve found it invaluable moving between and around cities. (I do only go to larger cities and their suburbs.) It’s also priceless when I’m visiting clients because I’m not hamstrung by my clients’ firewall or network restrictions.

    I cancelled all my wifi accounts and decreased my DSL speed at my home because the Sprint service is so good. In fact, my Sprint evdo is often faster downstream than my SBC DSL at my house. Go figure.

  • http://www.cogentcompany.com Hop

    I’m a huge evdo fan. Just switched from Verizon to Sprint. I live in Texas… where we drive everywhere. I’ve found only a few holes in the network between Dallas-Houston-Austin. I also travel quite a bit around the US, and I’ve found it invaluable moving between and around cities. (I do only go to larger cities and their suburbs.) It’s also priceless when I’m visiting clients because I’m not hamstrung by my clients’ firewall or network restrictions.

    I cancelled all my wifi accounts and decreased my DSL speed at my home because the Sprint service is so good. In fact, my Sprint evdo is often faster downstream than my SBC DSL at my house. Go figure.

  • http://www.bynkii.com/ John C. Welch

    I don’t have to buy a contract to get WiFi. I do have to pay that for EVDO. How often do I find myself desperately wishing I had wireless connections? Never. but then, I’m more patient than you are about such things, and not as addicted to my tech.

    Oh, and coverage is still spotty. In my hotel in the Research Triangle area of Raleigh/Durham NC, NEITHER Sprint nor Verizon are even able to give me reliable *voice* or 1xRTT, much less EVDO. Note that Research Triangle is not some backwoods area. IBM has one of its largest facilities here, and I drive by a GE Aircraft Engine facility every day. Serious tech here, but crappy EVDO coverage.

    I also did some math, and unless you travel a lot, on your own dime, you’re going to be hard – pressed to pay $60 or more a month for Wi-Fi. And honestly, I’d rather go to a Barnes and Noble, grab a book, grab some Hot Cocoa at the Starbucks therein and do my emailing there. Much more pleasant than in a hotel room or a car.

  • http://www.bynkii.com/ John C. Welch

    I don’t have to buy a contract to get WiFi. I do have to pay that for EVDO. How often do I find myself desperately wishing I had wireless connections? Never. but then, I’m more patient than you are about such things, and not as addicted to my tech.

    Oh, and coverage is still spotty. In my hotel in the Research Triangle area of Raleigh/Durham NC, NEITHER Sprint nor Verizon are even able to give me reliable *voice* or 1xRTT, much less EVDO. Note that Research Triangle is not some backwoods area. IBM has one of its largest facilities here, and I drive by a GE Aircraft Engine facility every day. Serious tech here, but crappy EVDO coverage.

    I also did some math, and unless you travel a lot, on your own dime, you’re going to be hard – pressed to pay $60 or more a month for Wi-Fi. And honestly, I’d rather go to a Barnes and Noble, grab a book, grab some Hot Cocoa at the Starbucks therein and do my emailing there. Much more pleasant than in a hotel room or a car.

  • LayZ

    @21 You luddite, John. Shame on you for not wanting to be on the net every waking moment. Get your priorities straight, man!! ;-)

  • LayZ

    @21 You luddite, John. Shame on you for not wanting to be on the net every waking moment. Get your priorities straight, man!! ;-)

  • Carolus Holman

    I am at the DevConnections Convention in Las Vegas. They have a wireless connection, but it doesn’t work most of the time. My verizon card has save me the $12 per day room fee, plus allowed me to blog from the conference. It is spotty in some areas of the Hotel but I am pretty happy about its performance. The number one complaint I have heard, from presenters, and participants is NO INTERNET CONNECTION, guess what, they don’t have EVDO or any wireless cards. Well worth the 500 dollars a year, especially when you have to support users back at work. Pays for itself.

  • Carolus Holman

    I am at the DevConnections Convention in Las Vegas. They have a wireless connection, but it doesn’t work most of the time. My verizon card has save me the $12 per day room fee, plus allowed me to blog from the conference. It is spotty in some areas of the Hotel but I am pretty happy about its performance. The number one complaint I have heard, from presenters, and participants is NO INTERNET CONNECTION, guess what, they don’t have EVDO or any wireless cards. Well worth the 500 dollars a year, especially when you have to support users back at work. Pays for itself.

  • TAG

    Somebody who can shell out $3,500 USD to attend a conference can also buy extra battery pack (or several) for his notebook, mobile phone, photo and video cameras.

  • TAG

    Somebody who can shell out $3,500 USD to attend a conference can also buy extra battery pack (or several) for his notebook, mobile phone, photo and video cameras.

  • http://www.ninthspace.org/ Chris

    Is this why all the best hotels don’t have pillows?

    Oh, wait, they do.

  • http://www.ninthspace.org/ Chris

    Is this why all the best hotels don’t have pillows?

    Oh, wait, they do.