I love Amit Agarwal’s analysis on the full-text vs. partial text debate. I HATE partial text feeds. I am subscribing to a few now (Dan Farber, for instance) but I find I link to them far less often than people who give me full text feeds. What does that do? Well, read Amit’s analysis. And, yes, I did “steal” Amit’s content and put it on my link blog.
Scobleizer
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dude, that’s not a link blog, that’s a feedblog. If it were a link blog, I’d be able to scan the link without hitting the more button forever. Screw that.
You want a great implementation of a Linkblog?
http://macsurfer.com/
Much more efficient as a link blog.
dude, that’s not a link blog, that’s a feedblog. If it were a link blog, I’d be able to scan the link without hitting the more button forever. Screw that.
You want a great implementation of a Linkblog?
http://macsurfer.com/
Much more efficient as a link blog.
Your own feed is partial, at least in Bloglines. Am I missing something here?
A partial feed is like a good headline. It should tell you enough to entertain and make you want more. What’s wrong with it? It’s a good compromise. You get notification of content and the people get paid.
Your own feed is partial, at least in Bloglines. Am I missing something here?
A partial feed is like a good headline. It should tell you enough to entertain and make you want more. What’s wrong with it? It’s a good compromise. You get notification of content and the people get paid.
[...] Robert Scoble hates partial text rss feeds, and so do I. RSS is still a rather foreign concept to many casual internet users (at least the ones I know), and partial text feeds pose enough of an annoyance for many people to just give up and say “why bother.” We are in the middle of a big movement towards a completely customizable internet experience. People can already tailor their portals to contain popular sites they often visit, arrange their blogs or social networking site profiles to include people they know and want to keep up with, and many power users have RSS readers constantly feeding them the latest news from dozens of sites. With busy lives putting a premium on free time, people might start to cut out partial text feeds if they have to trim the list of sites and sources they follow. Amit Agarwal provides many more reasons that full feed is the way to go. [...]
I find it humorous that someone that “HATES” partial text feeds, is one of the few(must be because it’s Scoble) that I always have to click to get the rest of the story.
I find it humorous that someone that “HATES” partial text feeds, is one of the few(must be because it’s Scoble) that I always have to click to get the rest of the story.
WHY DO SOME FEED READERS IMPORT PARTICAL TEXT INSTEAD OF FULL TEXT. I HAVE NOTICED THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME. PLUS COULD YOU TELL US AGAIN WHY YOU LIKE GOOGLE READER OVER LIVE.COM. PLEASE THAT WOULD BE A GREAT CONVERSATION TO START. SORT OF LIKE WHAT YOU DID WITH THE SEARCH ENGINES
WHY DO SOME FEED READERS IMPORT PARTICAL TEXT INSTEAD OF FULL TEXT. I HAVE NOTICED THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME. PLUS COULD YOU TELL US AGAIN WHY YOU LIKE GOOGLE READER OVER LIVE.COM. PLEASE THAT WOULD BE A GREAT CONVERSATION TO START. SORT OF LIKE WHAT YOU DID WITH THE SEARCH ENGINES
I agree, Robert. Now, fix your feed.
I agree, Robert. Now, fix your feed.
Gary: the feed at http://scobleizer.com/feed/ is a full text feed. At least it’s full text in Google Reader. Not sure why other readers aren’t showing full text.
Gary: the feed at http://scobleizer.com/feed/ is a full text feed. At least it’s full text in Google Reader. Not sure why other readers aren’t showing full text.
Incomplete: >What’s wrong with it?
It wastes my time.
Incomplete: >What’s wrong with it?
It wastes my time.
I agree with you Robert, and so I opened this post on your website after reading it in my aggregator
I agree with you Robert, and so I opened this post on your website after reading it in my aggregator
http://scobleizer.wordpress.com/feed/rss/ is partial, to which is what I used to subscribe. There’s a wordpress.com setting in Options – Reading for full/partial feed.
http://scobleizer.wordpress.com/feed/rss/ is partial, to which is what I used to subscribe. There’s a wordpress.com setting in Options – Reading for full/partial feed.
[...] There’s always been a huge debate in blogging about whether to use full feeds or partial feeds. I *hate* partial feeds. They only display a fixed amount of text before the cut-off, and it is so unsatisfying to click more only to find out that you were missing two sentances. As a feed reader, I find I stop subscribing to partial feed sites unless I really like them. Currently I only read three partial feed sites: [...]
[...] I used to be among those that felt using a partial-text RSS feed would bring more people to my site. About a year ago, I realized the error of my ways – mostly because I figured Robert Scoble would never subscribe (you do now though, right Robert?) – and switched to full text feeds. [...]
> It wastes my time.
A page display takes 200-500 msecs, you must be very busy. And while that’s loading you scan to the next entry to see if it’s worth your time.
> It wastes my time.
A page display takes 200-500 msecs, you must be very busy. And while that’s loading you scan to the next entry to see if it’s worth your time.
Robert your feed is full in Google reader for me as well. I also checked it in my backup, bloglines, and it’s full text there for me as well.
Perhaps someone has their options set up incorrectly in bloglines? I hesitate to say that as I may get flamed, but I’ve made that mistake before.
Robert your feed is full in Google reader for me as well. I also checked it in my backup, bloglines, and it’s full text there for me as well.
Perhaps someone has their options set up incorrectly in bloglines? I hesitate to say that as I may get flamed, but I’ve made that mistake before.
Robyn: I don’t know. I don’t know how people got to that URL.
Robyn: I don’t know. I don’t know how people got to that URL.
incomplete: most pages take seconds to load. But, yes, that wastes my time. Especially when I’m looking at 350 feeds and thousands of items every day. Most of the time there’s someone else who gives me full text that I’d rather link to.
incomplete: most pages take seconds to load. But, yes, that wastes my time. Especially when I’m looking at 350 feeds and thousands of items every day. Most of the time there’s someone else who gives me full text that I’d rather link to.
I think that full feeds are really important. I don’t come back to websites that don’t have a feed, and I hardly ever read partial feeds. I often click through on the full feeds.
And really, how hard is it to put an ad in a feed??
Zach
take more photos
I think that full feeds are really important. I don’t come back to websites that don’t have a feed, and I hardly ever read partial feeds. I often click through on the full feeds.
And really, how hard is it to put an ad in a feed??
Zach
take more photos
Couldn’t agree more. I’m reluctant to subscribe to partial text feeds; they’re a pain-in-the-@$$.
Frankly, I’m not too thrilled with short postings, either. Personal preference. I’d rather get fewer, but longer postings: More analysis, less background noise. (Honestly, I really don’t care if a blogger is taking a trip to visit their mother — or even if they’ll be too busy to post over the next several days. Make a brief annotation to the final post prior to going on a trip rather than making a separate post that a trip is pending.)
Couldn’t agree more. I’m reluctant to subscribe to partial text feeds; they’re a pain-in-the-@$$.
Frankly, I’m not too thrilled with short postings, either. Personal preference. I’d rather get fewer, but longer postings: More analysis, less background noise. (Honestly, I really don’t care if a blogger is taking a trip to visit their mother — or even if they’ll be too busy to post over the next several days. Make a brief annotation to the final post prior to going on a trip rather than making a separate post that a trip is pending.)
Robert… what do you think of full postings for commercial feeds (like newspapers, etc.). Frankly it drives me nuts to only get the first two sentences (see The Economist, or The New York Times…). I’d prefer to pay for the subscription and get an authenticated feed…
Robert… what do you think of full postings for commercial feeds (like newspapers, etc.). Frankly it drives me nuts to only get the first two sentences (see The Economist, or The New York Times…). I’d prefer to pay for the subscription and get an authenticated feed…
Jame: I so wish that were a choice that would be possible!
Jame: I so wish that were a choice that would be possible!
[...] Af first i don’t want to do this because i’ve been scraped by those lazy guys out there that just want to make some money without doing real work (even it’s just creating a post) for a few times .. but after reading Robert Scoble comment on Amit Agarwal blog, i decided to change into full feed (actually i read about it first on his post about full text feeds pay off for this blogger .. and on problogger post about full feeds or partial feeds discussion) [...]
Not that anyone read the feeds from my blog but after reading one of your rants on hating partial text feeds (I was guilty as charged putting partial feeds to drive additional traffic to my own little blog) I enabled full text so that those who do subscribe to my RSS don’t have have to go to the site but can consume what I put online from their RSS viewr of choice….. nof course hopefully what they consume wont give them an upset stomach.
Not that anyone read the feeds from my blog but after reading one of your rants on hating partial text feeds (I was guilty as charged putting partial feeds to drive additional traffic to my own little blog) I enabled full text so that those who do subscribe to my RSS don’t have have to go to the site but can consume what I put online from their RSS viewr of choice….. nof course hopefully what they consume wont give them an upset stomach.
[...] Full text feeds pay off for this blogger [...]
Count me in the crowd that dislikes partial feeds. Perhaps more people should offer people both options.
I also get the full feeds for this blog in every feed reader I have used (nowadays Google Reader)
Count me in the crowd that dislikes partial feeds. Perhaps more people should offer people both options.
I also get the full feeds for this blog in every feed reader I have used (nowadays Google Reader)
Is there any reason Robert that you don’t include ads on your feeds?
Is there any reason Robert that you don’t include ads on your feeds?
[...] Scoble detests partial feeds as much as I do. Whilst I tolerate it on news sites, I really cannot be bothered with elsewhere. Scoble points off to a great analysis of the full-text versus partial-text debate by Amit Agarwal. In the analysis he outlines why he has moved from a solid two-year position of only providing partial text to now providing full feeds — the economic and ‘reach’ evidence are compelling. [...]
Paul: no reason, it’s just I’m not driven by the money that I could make and I’d rather you get just me on my personal blog.
Paul: no reason, it’s just I’m not driven by the money that I could make and I’d rather you get just me on my personal blog.