Bad PR for Dell but not for Apple?

I totally forgot about the amount of mainstream press that Jeff Jarvis’ generated against Dell when Dell’s customer service told him to “pound sand.”

Duncan Riley reminded me again that the press treats Apple differently than it treats Dell and other companies. Why is that? Is it because Apple gives exclusives to mainstream press and won’t even talk to bloggers?

Is it because mainstream press are sent Apple products to try and use before anyone else sees them? (True story, how do you think that Newsweek and Time gets iPods on its covers at the same time the rest of the press gets to see them?)

Does the mainstream press not want to attack Apple cause Apple is so exclusive and this exclusivity turns into MAJOR TRAFFIC on blogs and Web sites (and, sales of magazines, etc)? After all, I don’t see many, if any, bloggers getting access to its PR events Steve Jobs keynotes. That’s quite different at other companies.

Is it because Apple fan sites drive more traffic than almost any other (true story, when I write something provocative about Apple I get more traffic than anything but Digg’s front page sends)?

So, BusinessWeek, Newsweek, Wall Street Journal, and New York Times, are you going to mention the ongoing problems that Apple customers are having with its products? Or, you gonna go for the “exclusive” about the new iPod phone?

If it’s OK to print miles of bad press about Dell, why isn’t it OK to print miles of bad press about Apple?

185 thoughts on “Bad PR for Dell but not for Apple?

  1. It's about time! The Republicans in Ohio and several other states are trying to return us to the days of the poll tax. I'll bet that plenty of wealthy right-wing suburbanites are going to appoint themselves poll watchers in poor and minority districts again this year, as they've done in recent elections. Unless there are independent poll disney acting auditions watchers in those neighborhoods this year, it's likely to get ugly. Rich reactionaries have controlled literally everything in this country for years, and they won't give up their dictatorship of the dollar easily.

  2. It's about time! The Republicans in Ohio and several other states are trying to return us to the days of the poll tax. I'll bet that plenty of wealthy right-wing suburbanites are going to appoint themselves poll watchers in poor and minority districts again this year, as they've done in recent elections. Unless there are independent poll disney acting auditions watchers in those neighborhoods this year, it's likely to get ugly. Rich reactionaries have controlled literally everything in this country for years, and they won't give up their dictatorship of the dollar easily.

  3. IF Dell would actually have tech support that spoke English, maybe they wouldn’t get dragged through the mud. I won’t ever go back to Dell because of their “tech(LESS) support”. Mac rules. (And I have 2 Apple horror stories for repairs, but at least they spoke English.) All computers break down, it’s a fact of life. If I have a computer problem, I want to speak to someone NOT reading from cue cards with a more than rudimentary understanding of English.

  4. IF Dell would actually have tech support that spoke English, maybe they wouldn’t get dragged through the mud. I won’t ever go back to Dell because of their “tech(LESS) support”. Mac rules. (And I have 2 Apple horror stories for repairs, but at least they spoke English.) All computers break down, it’s a fact of life. If I have a computer problem, I want to speak to someone NOT reading from cue cards with a more than rudimentary understanding of English.

  5. Dell is set up like an old “Rust Belt” corporation from the ’60s. Dell’s stock is in for a death spiral now that the quality issues are coming out.

    Let’s face it, Dell laptops are the crap.

  6. Dell is set up like an old “Rust Belt” corporation from the ’60s. Dell’s stock is in for a death spiral now that the quality issues are coming out.

    Let’s face it, Dell laptops are the crap.

  7. I’ve spent about 4 hours on the phone with Dell over the last month, trying to get my 16 year old daughter’s 2005 Christmas present (an Inspiron 6000) fixed and now I think it’s the vertical line problem with the LCDs at http://www.dellverticalline.com. I’ve already told them to send it back because I just couldn’t waste anymore time or my life on their stupid customer service run around. But now I realize if you don’t say the right “almost a lawsuit problem” they will blame it on your handling of the product. Here is what happened to us:
    > I was busy moving, so my daughter took it upon herself to call in and try to get our “under warranty” laptop repaired. She said the word “dropped” and we are totally hosed now. The laptop’s audio never worked right, the keys started to fall off randomly and then the LCD screen went (which I now am sure is the vertical line issue that Dell won’t acknowledge). She’s 16, she knocked it once harder than she
    thought she should and felt responsible and was honest with them. Now they say the motherboard needs to be repaired and we have to pay $798. I flipped at that and guess what … the price changed to $490 plus taxes. I gave them a choice since I knew we were doomed because she said “dropped” … I offered $200 to fix the LCD since I knew her words couldn’t be erased off their work order AND we would buy the 3 year, $209 accident insurance OR years of my badmouthing Dell and never being a
    customer again. They wouldn’t budge. So you know, I feel much more comfortable giving the probably $400 repair money to a local businessman and making sure I tell everyone that Dell products aren’t worth the hassle of the guaranteed repair needs.

    They need to tell the customer service people not to say, “Thank you for chosing Dell” at the end of an angry, unsatisfying call! I said,”You are kidding right?”
    Now that I’ve found http://www.dellverticalline.com I am trying once more to get this
    resolved. This time when I mentioned this website and that I think that is our LCD problem all along, the customer service tech guy was gone while I was on hold for, no kidding, 10 minutes. I think that means I have a slightly better shot at getting this resolved than I did earlier this morning.
    But again, based on problems I’ve read all over the web in Dell Hell, if I pay for a 3 year $209 warrantly I’ll just go through this again, won’t I!?
    OH … guess why I haven’t been getting emails?
    Because their spelling system … “f” as in frank, “u” as in unbelievable, “t” as in tirade, “t” as in tired of being on hold, “o” as in ornery, “n” as in “nuff” already, “b” as in bizarre, “a” as in AAAAAAAAAAAAAhhhh, “y” as in you’re kidding me, “m” as in mad as hell, “e” as in error, “d” as in despicable, “i” as in idiots, “a” as in the A word @yahoo.com FAILED MISERABLY and they’ve been sending my emails to futtonmaymedia@yahoo.com instead of suttonbaymedia@yahoo.com.
    Dell Hell is such an apt description. And I’m am trying to be forgiving of the language barrier, everyone needs a job. But this system isn’t working. The problem started when my daughter couldn’t understand a word the customer service guy said and vice versa. This is just an inexcusable business practice.
    Please go to http://www.ihatedell.net and complain there as well.
    Memphis Dell continues to hold my daughter’s laptop for ransom. How sad.

  8. I’ve spent about 4 hours on the phone with Dell over the last month, trying to get my 16 year old daughter’s 2005 Christmas present (an Inspiron 6000) fixed and now I think it’s the vertical line problem with the LCDs at http://www.dellverticalline.com. I’ve already told them to send it back because I just couldn’t waste anymore time or my life on their stupid customer service run around. But now I realize if you don’t say the right “almost a lawsuit problem” they will blame it on your handling of the product. Here is what happened to us:
    > I was busy moving, so my daughter took it upon herself to call in and try to get our “under warranty” laptop repaired. She said the word “dropped” and we are totally hosed now. The laptop’s audio never worked right, the keys started to fall off randomly and then the LCD screen went (which I now am sure is the vertical line issue that Dell won’t acknowledge). She’s 16, she knocked it once harder than she
    thought she should and felt responsible and was honest with them. Now they say the motherboard needs to be repaired and we have to pay $798. I flipped at that and guess what … the price changed to $490 plus taxes. I gave them a choice since I knew we were doomed because she said “dropped” … I offered $200 to fix the LCD since I knew her words couldn’t be erased off their work order AND we would buy the 3 year, $209 accident insurance OR years of my badmouthing Dell and never being a
    customer again. They wouldn’t budge. So you know, I feel much more comfortable giving the probably $400 repair money to a local businessman and making sure I tell everyone that Dell products aren’t worth the hassle of the guaranteed repair needs.

    They need to tell the customer service people not to say, “Thank you for chosing Dell” at the end of an angry, unsatisfying call! I said,”You are kidding right?”
    Now that I’ve found http://www.dellverticalline.com I am trying once more to get this
    resolved. This time when I mentioned this website and that I think that is our LCD problem all along, the customer service tech guy was gone while I was on hold for, no kidding, 10 minutes. I think that means I have a slightly better shot at getting this resolved than I did earlier this morning.
    But again, based on problems I’ve read all over the web in Dell Hell, if I pay for a 3 year $209 warrantly I’ll just go through this again, won’t I!?
    OH … guess why I haven’t been getting emails?
    Because their spelling system … “f” as in frank, “u” as in unbelievable, “t” as in tirade, “t” as in tired of being on hold, “o” as in ornery, “n” as in “nuff” already, “b” as in bizarre, “a” as in AAAAAAAAAAAAAhhhh, “y” as in you’re kidding me, “m” as in mad as hell, “e” as in error, “d” as in despicable, “i” as in idiots, “a” as in the A word @yahoo.com FAILED MISERABLY and they’ve been sending my emails to futtonmaymedia@yahoo.com instead of suttonbaymedia@yahoo.com.
    Dell Hell is such an apt description. And I’m am trying to be forgiving of the language barrier, everyone needs a job. But this system isn’t working. The problem started when my daughter couldn’t understand a word the customer service guy said and vice versa. This is just an inexcusable business practice.
    Please go to http://www.ihatedell.net and complain there as well.
    Memphis Dell continues to hold my daughter’s laptop for ransom. How sad.

  9. When you go thru what i have no wonder Dell has Bad PR.

    Customer service…Hmmm Interesting concept…I have to say that in my book Dell has a long way to go before Kudo’s need to be handed out.

    (*Note: I purchased the extended top of the line service agreement and it just now a one year old machine)

    For instance I have had an open case number for over 22 days now. Let me back up and run down the whole scnerio here for ya. Get your popcorn this is a good one. Ok one day long long ago my less than a year old XPS 600 took a nose dive while right in the middle of doing routine work. Just froze up. Ok so i reboot …waiting…waiting..nothing. I can’t even get into safe mode. So here is the first call to Dell..(22 days ago) I don’t know what happened but to make this part of the long story short. We ended up having to completly reinstall the OS. Now this is my business machine with 10′s thousands of dollars worth of software and one of a kind business materails. Ok new OS installed (only cost me a couple hundred dollars to get some programs back)

    NOW THE FUN BEGINS!! I buy a large enough hard drive to start doing daily backups just in case this would happen again, but wouldn’t you know it, the backup drive has yet arrived (5 days) when the machine crashes AGAIN. Called Dell again..this time its determined that my graphics card is bad. This time I talk to TWO techs on TWO different calls and neither one offers anything to help me to gain access to my machine to at least do some work, Now you have to understand the machine will not even boot up in safe mode, Ok so how do we take care of this I ask? We send a graphics card replacement and a Qualex Serv people come out and install it, he replies. GREAT, what time tomorrow should i expect them i ask? Oh you won’t see them tomorrow its at least 3-5 business days….Whaaaaaa I gasp. What happened to the 24 in house service i paid for? OH thats after Qualex gets the parts he tells me. Wooooh..I say to him this was never explained to me or even mentioned. This is my business machine I can’t go a week dead in the water. Im sweating buckets now and all i hear is sorry thats the way its done im told. The call ends and all i have is a case and dispatch number and the hopes this gets taken care of sooner rather than later.

    After sitting at my desk looking at a blank screen it dawned on me that these techs hadn’t even tried to to get my machine back up and running. So I call dell back, and of course a different tech…well he pretty much dismisses my attempt at getting him to try anything, he just agreed with the first two techs that its my graphics card, wasted call. SO I call a 4th time and BEG..BEG mind you, to even get a tech to try and at least get me in to get emails or something. The tech gets me in in safe mode and at least i can go thru my ISP and get some emails but no work can be done.

    So moving on..5 days later and no graphics card or tech to be seen i call dell again. Im informed that there aren’t any Gforce 6800 graphics cards to be had, ( i have dual Gforce 6800′s) they are back ordered…no solution suggested, nothing. Im getting hot by this time and demand to speak to a supervisor (I did not curse)..now would you believe this…this guy hangs up on me! No mistake, we didn’t get disconnected, or he would have called me back..did he? NOOOOOO! So customer oriented Dell did the one thing i never ever thought i would have happen, A customer was hung up on!

    Now after this im steaming. I call again and im on my 4th or 5th tech…This guy offers to send me Gforce7600 card instead. Ok im cool with that (I believe its a better card) and the tech tells me it is also and that he is doing this because of the trouble i have had. Ok like any person Im apeased, after all what can i say Dell is stepping me up to a better card, or at least I thought so and was led to believe so.

    To my delightful surprise the card shows up the next day! BUT it too good to be true..I have a DUAL Gforce 6800 and this guy sends me ONE Gforce 7600..ONE !…Ok back on the phone…I get yet another tech and he is falling all over himself to help me. Gives me his ID, email, phone extention the works..OH and he is sending a second card to Qualex this time.

    5…thats 5 days later no tech no card no nothing! I call dell and use the extention the last tech gave me to contact him. Would you believe its NOT HIS NUMBER ! I call Qualex to see what the deal is…Now get this..Dell scheduled 3 service calls..then they ( DELL) cancels ALL THREE. Qualex has no clue whats going on. Frankly neither does Dell… So Once more I call Dell today…and I was right THEY HAVE NO CLUE whats going on. Its now 22 DAYS later, 22 DAYS! Would you believe the guy tells me ok we will do this again and its gonna take another 3-5 days on top of what has already been one major joke and horror show!

    Oh twist that blade thats plunged deep into my back just a little bit more! I get a call back from the tech i just talked to. Now they are not going to send the Gfroce 7600 dual cards but the Gforce 6800 Dual. He told me the 7600 is not as good a card as the 6800. I don’t know much about these cards so im not sure which one is better..but get this..If the 7600 is a worse card that means Dell was going to replace my better cards for a downgrade and not even tell me! ORRR Dell decided that the 7600 is a better card and i don’t warrent the upgrade now that they have the 6800′s back in stock.

    So I have been hung up on..lied to….Tricked one way or another about the performance of graphics cards and dell was knowingly going to downgraded me without me even being told, i have waited or will have waited almost 30 days before my 24 hour service just might be completed.

    So customer service and Dell…as far as im concerned they shouldn’t be mentiond in the same sentence. I will NEVER suggest to ANYONE that they even think of buying a computer from dell.

    In fact i just bought a laptop since i don’t have a working machine…and i assure you it WAS NOT a DELL !

    A footnote: I tried to post this over on the blog. They have yet to post it. The same page Where Mr. Dell i Believe posted his infamous speach. Guess they selectivly post there.
    Lets now add insult to injury! Would you believe i just received a call from dell saying that this graphics card is now on backorder and won’t be shipped till MARCH!

    WARNING…Dell service does not exsist!

  10. When you go thru what i have no wonder Dell has Bad PR.

    Customer service…Hmmm Interesting concept…I have to say that in my book Dell has a long way to go before Kudo’s need to be handed out.

    (*Note: I purchased the extended top of the line service agreement and it just now a one year old machine)

    For instance I have had an open case number for over 22 days now. Let me back up and run down the whole scnerio here for ya. Get your popcorn this is a good one. Ok one day long long ago my less than a year old XPS 600 took a nose dive while right in the middle of doing routine work. Just froze up. Ok so i reboot …waiting…waiting..nothing. I can’t even get into safe mode. So here is the first call to Dell..(22 days ago) I don’t know what happened but to make this part of the long story short. We ended up having to completly reinstall the OS. Now this is my business machine with 10′s thousands of dollars worth of software and one of a kind business materails. Ok new OS installed (only cost me a couple hundred dollars to get some programs back)

    NOW THE FUN BEGINS!! I buy a large enough hard drive to start doing daily backups just in case this would happen again, but wouldn’t you know it, the backup drive has yet arrived (5 days) when the machine crashes AGAIN. Called Dell again..this time its determined that my graphics card is bad. This time I talk to TWO techs on TWO different calls and neither one offers anything to help me to gain access to my machine to at least do some work, Now you have to understand the machine will not even boot up in safe mode, Ok so how do we take care of this I ask? We send a graphics card replacement and a Qualex Serv people come out and install it, he replies. GREAT, what time tomorrow should i expect them i ask? Oh you won’t see them tomorrow its at least 3-5 business days….Whaaaaaa I gasp. What happened to the 24 in house service i paid for? OH thats after Qualex gets the parts he tells me. Wooooh..I say to him this was never explained to me or even mentioned. This is my business machine I can’t go a week dead in the water. Im sweating buckets now and all i hear is sorry thats the way its done im told. The call ends and all i have is a case and dispatch number and the hopes this gets taken care of sooner rather than later.

    After sitting at my desk looking at a blank screen it dawned on me that these techs hadn’t even tried to to get my machine back up and running. So I call dell back, and of course a different tech…well he pretty much dismisses my attempt at getting him to try anything, he just agreed with the first two techs that its my graphics card, wasted call. SO I call a 4th time and BEG..BEG mind you, to even get a tech to try and at least get me in to get emails or something. The tech gets me in in safe mode and at least i can go thru my ISP and get some emails but no work can be done.

    So moving on..5 days later and no graphics card or tech to be seen i call dell again. Im informed that there aren’t any Gforce 6800 graphics cards to be had, ( i have dual Gforce 6800′s) they are back ordered…no solution suggested, nothing. Im getting hot by this time and demand to speak to a supervisor (I did not curse)..now would you believe this…this guy hangs up on me! No mistake, we didn’t get disconnected, or he would have called me back..did he? NOOOOOO! So customer oriented Dell did the one thing i never ever thought i would have happen, A customer was hung up on!

    Now after this im steaming. I call again and im on my 4th or 5th tech…This guy offers to send me Gforce7600 card instead. Ok im cool with that (I believe its a better card) and the tech tells me it is also and that he is doing this because of the trouble i have had. Ok like any person Im apeased, after all what can i say Dell is stepping me up to a better card, or at least I thought so and was led to believe so.

    To my delightful surprise the card shows up the next day! BUT it too good to be true..I have a DUAL Gforce 6800 and this guy sends me ONE Gforce 7600..ONE !…Ok back on the phone…I get yet another tech and he is falling all over himself to help me. Gives me his ID, email, phone extention the works..OH and he is sending a second card to Qualex this time.

    5…thats 5 days later no tech no card no nothing! I call dell and use the extention the last tech gave me to contact him. Would you believe its NOT HIS NUMBER ! I call Qualex to see what the deal is…Now get this..Dell scheduled 3 service calls..then they ( DELL) cancels ALL THREE. Qualex has no clue whats going on. Frankly neither does Dell… So Once more I call Dell today…and I was right THEY HAVE NO CLUE whats going on. Its now 22 DAYS later, 22 DAYS! Would you believe the guy tells me ok we will do this again and its gonna take another 3-5 days on top of what has already been one major joke and horror show!

    Oh twist that blade thats plunged deep into my back just a little bit more! I get a call back from the tech i just talked to. Now they are not going to send the Gfroce 7600 dual cards but the Gforce 6800 Dual. He told me the 7600 is not as good a card as the 6800. I don’t know much about these cards so im not sure which one is better..but get this..If the 7600 is a worse card that means Dell was going to replace my better cards for a downgrade and not even tell me! ORRR Dell decided that the 7600 is a better card and i don’t warrent the upgrade now that they have the 6800′s back in stock.

    So I have been hung up on..lied to….Tricked one way or another about the performance of graphics cards and dell was knowingly going to downgraded me without me even being told, i have waited or will have waited almost 30 days before my 24 hour service just might be completed.

    So customer service and Dell…as far as im concerned they shouldn’t be mentiond in the same sentence. I will NEVER suggest to ANYONE that they even think of buying a computer from dell.

    In fact i just bought a laptop since i don’t have a working machine…and i assure you it WAS NOT a DELL !

    A footnote: I tried to post this over on the blog. They have yet to post it. The same page Where Mr. Dell i Believe posted his infamous speach. Guess they selectivly post there.
    Lets now add insult to injury! Would you believe i just received a call from dell saying that this graphics card is now on backorder and won’t be shipped till MARCH!

    WARNING…Dell service does not exsist!

  11. I’ve heard rumors of Dell/Apple partnerships for about two years. It’ would be like Tiffany’s (Apple) merging with Target (Dell).

    That’s wishful thinking on Michael Dell’s part to boast his stock.

    Steve Jobs is way to smart to fall for any partnerships with a dime a dozen computer company.

  12. I’ve heard rumors of Dell/Apple partnerships for about two years. It’ would be like Tiffany’s (Apple) merging with Target (Dell).

    That’s wishful thinking on Michael Dell’s part to boast his stock.

    Steve Jobs is way to smart to fall for any partnerships with a dime a dozen computer company.

  13. Anyone noticed that:
    1) Michael Dell has stated he’d be interested in bundling Mac OS X
    2) Apple has finished moving to Intel, and is finishing Leopard, the next version of the OS previewed to developers in August, expected to be announced next week
    3) Microsoft bullies manufacturers, and Vista… well
    4) Steve Jobs keynote in SF will be at the same time as Michael Dell’s in Vegas…
    I predict iChat will get a new VIP user tuesday

  14. Anyone noticed that:
    1) Michael Dell has stated he’d be interested in bundling Mac OS X
    2) Apple has finished moving to Intel, and is finishing Leopard, the next version of the OS previewed to developers in August, expected to be announced next week
    3) Microsoft bullies manufacturers, and Vista… well
    4) Steve Jobs keynote in SF will be at the same time as Michael Dell’s in Vegas…
    I predict iChat will get a new VIP user tuesday

  15. What kind of “press” does Dell think they are going to get? Hey, the keys that fall off are not that hard to put back on yourself.

    Or, Dell has new deodorant in it’s office restrooms.

  16. What kind of “press” does Dell think they are going to get? Hey, the keys that fall off are not that hard to put back on yourself.

    Or, Dell has new deodorant in it’s office restrooms.

  17. Mike, exactly. Dell is like the street hooker charging $20 per client. Macs are the high priced escorts going for $500 an hour.

  18. Mike, exactly. Dell is like the street hooker charging $20 per client. Macs are the high priced escorts going for $500 an hour.

  19. Dude. Dell doesn’t even GET press. They slap computers together and ship them in the millions to banks and office towers around the world. THey should stick to what they do best: sell Windows.

  20. Dude. Dell doesn’t even GET press. They slap computers together and ship them in the millions to banks and office towers around the world. THey should stick to what they do best: sell Windows.

  21. You actually had to PROVE that Apple preview gadgets in the media?

    Um, you mean like… how Ebert and Roeper get to see movies before I’ve seen them?

    Wooo… trippy

  22. You actually had to PROVE that Apple preview gadgets in the media?

    Um, you mean like… how Ebert and Roeper get to see movies before I’ve seen them?

    Wooo… trippy

  23. Dear Apple, Dear Apple,
    My iPod won’t play
    My MacBook shuts down – the power won’t stay.
    Quicktime is buggy and leads to attack
    Dear Apple, please tell me why I bought a Mac?

  24. Dear Apple, Dear Apple,
    My iPod won’t play
    My MacBook shuts down – the power won’t stay.
    Quicktime is buggy and leads to attack
    Dear Apple, please tell me why I bought a Mac?

  25. I am posting from an Apple Store in Portland. I came in with a PowerBook G4 battery that had stopped charging and iPod earphones that had developed a hiss. Both the pattery ($80 value) and the earbuds have been replaced without a hassle. The ‘genius’ could have made me go through the diagnostic process with the battery, but he took my word that it would not charge. I am not naive enough to believe customer care is always this easy, but I do think that good experiences with Apple most of the time is why Apple leads in customer satisfaction surveys.

  26. I am posting from an Apple Store in Portland. I came in with a PowerBook G4 battery that had stopped charging and iPod earphones that had developed a hiss. Both the pattery ($80 value) and the earbuds have been replaced without a hassle. The ‘genius’ could have made me go through the diagnostic process with the battery, but he took my word that it would not charge. I am not naive enough to believe customer care is always this easy, but I do think that good experiences with Apple most of the time is why Apple leads in customer satisfaction surveys.

  27. Whether it’s a Dell or a Mac, when your laptop bursts into flames, there can only be one question…. “who will save my… um…. ‘special interest’ files….”

    http://markdaycomedy.wordpress.com/2006/08/17/dell-laptop-fire-safety-hints-who-will-save-the-porn/

    As for Apple glitches, they would be less of an issue if so much of the Apple mantra (as muttered by the Mac faithful) didn’t revolve around the notion of superiority through simplicity. Would-be users may well find to their suprise that in some respects Mac products are sometimes just like other products. Glitchy.

  28. Whether it’s a Dell or a Mac, when your laptop bursts into flames, there can only be one question…. “who will save my… um…. ‘special interest’ files….”

    http://markdaycomedy.wordpress.com/2006/08/17/dell-laptop-fire-safety-hints-who-will-save-the-porn/

    As for Apple glitches, they would be less of an issue if so much of the Apple mantra (as muttered by the Mac faithful) didn’t revolve around the notion of superiority through simplicity. Would-be users may well find to their suprise that in some respects Mac products are sometimes just like other products. Glitchy.

  29. Is the Scobleizer a Mac user now? I have been for about 18 years. But I toggle back and forth between PCs. Apple wants total control of the brand communications, but it has the smell of the man all over it. It’s still better PR than any other computer company. See sadbastards.wordpress.com

  30. Is the Scobleizer a Mac user now? I have been for about 18 years. But I toggle back and forth between PCs. Apple wants total control of the brand communications, but it has the smell of the man all over it. It’s still better PR than any other computer company. See sadbastards.wordpress.com

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