Steven Levy of Newsweek blogs

January 11, 2007 By

Oh, Steven Levy, why are you trying to mess up a good deal? We all know that Apple doesn’t consider bloggers worthy of talking to. So, now that you’re blogging, aren’t you afraid that Steve won’t call you up anymore and give you exclusive looks at iPods and other things?

But, seriously, welcome to the bloggy world. I am real sorry I missed you when you dropped by the BlogHaus. I hear that both you and John Markoff of the New York Times dropped by and stayed for a couple of hours (I was working on the show floor when they dropped by).

So, does that mean that John is going to start blogging too?

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Diego

Even people from the dark side want Apple

http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/archives/110354.asp
Diego

Even people from the dark side want Apple

http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/archives/110354.asp
Diego

According to Jobs, this is how they get tonnes of free publicity. It’s all well calculated:

“Apple’s secretive manner of releasing information about its new products was carefully devised to gain maximum publicity and gained the company millions in free publicity that it would otherwise forego. Apple employees had, for money, provided information to the bloggers, and should be exposed.”

http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/2007/pulpit_20070111_001476.html
Diego

According to Jobs, this is how they get tonnes of free publicity. It’s all well calculated:

“Apple’s secretive manner of releasing information about its new products was carefully devised to gain maximum publicity and gained the company millions in free publicity that it would otherwise forego. Apple employees had, for money, provided information to the bloggers, and should be exposed.”

http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/2007/pulpit_20070111_001476.html
http://bscoble.blogspot.com/ Ben Scoble

Sorry for this next comment Robert… Hey Mujibur, if you live anywhere near Virginia give me a call so I can meet you and stick my foot up your ass for the way you talk to my brother!!! You dumb ass … I have heard my bro stick up for apple so many times it makes me sick(Me IBM guy). I don’t know where all your hostility comes from but its clear you could use a good ass whoopin!!!
http://bscoble.blogspot.com/ Ben Scoble

Thats cause this bloggin stuff needs a little redneck!!!
http://bscoble.blogspot.com Ben Scoble

Sorry for this next comment Robert… Hey Mujibur, if you live anywhere near Virginia give me a call so I can meet you and stick my foot up your ass for the way you talk to my brother!!! You dumb ass … I have heard my bro stick up for apple so many times it makes me sick(Me IBM guy). I don’t know where all your hostility comes from but its clear you could use a good ass whoopin!!!
http://bscoble.blogspot.com Ben Scoble

Thats cause this bloggin stuff needs a little redneck!!!
blogger@wordpress

Hey Robert, I am from india. We have a saying that translates to “one with a brother isn’t even afraid of an army”

How true in your case….

Reg deigo’s value for money claim – i am yet to come across a person who justifies a higher priced produt using that line.

The other common thing about fanboys is the obvious anti microsoft feeling. So the reason for fanboy-ism is not ‘passion’ or ‘search for excellence’. it’s just the anti msft hate. That’s why every discussion about apple has the fanboys trying to prove how aaple is superior to microsoft.
blogger@wordpress

Hey Robert, I am from india. We have a saying that translates to “one with a brother isn’t even afraid of an army”

How true in your case….

Reg deigo’s value for money claim – i am yet to come across a person who justifies a higher priced produt using that line.

The other common thing about fanboys is the obvious anti microsoft feeling. So the reason for fanboy-ism is not ‘passion’ or ‘search for excellence’. it’s just the anti msft hate. That’s why every discussion about apple has the fanboys trying to prove how aaple is superior to microsoft.
Diego

“The other common thing about fanboys is the obvious anti microsoft feeling. So the reason for fanboy-ism is not ‘passion’ or ’search for excellence’. it’s just the anti msft hate.”

Not true. Well not for me anyway. So don’t put me in that boat. I am passionate about Apple. Plain and simple. Microsoft is very uninspiring. So for me, yes, it’s about being passionate.
Diego

“The other common thing about fanboys is the obvious anti microsoft feeling. So the reason for fanboy-ism is not ‘passion’ or ’search for excellence’. it’s just the anti msft hate.”

Not true. Well not for me anyway. So don’t put me in that boat. I am passionate about Apple. Plain and simple. Microsoft is very uninspiring. So for me, yes, it’s about being passionate.
Podesta

Yes, some commenters on this blog criticize Robert — with good reason. The man has virtually no analytical thinking skills and throws tantrums like a four-year-old child.

BUT, the number of Scoble sycophants far outnumbers the occasionally critical, as anyone reading this thread can tell. For every Lazy, there are at least two Francines performing verbal fellatio on Robert. I find people like that much more irritating because they NEVER have anything substantive to say. The critics are at least well-informed.

As for Roberts’ current hissy fit, it is about his ego. Not only will Steve Jobs not give him the time of day, Robert attended what turned out to be the wrong convention and even got dissed by Bill Gates while there. He had a bad week and is taking it out on Apple.

P.S.:

So, Ben Scoble is the family bigot, eh? Mo wonder he resides in Virginia.
Podesta

Yes, some commenters on this blog criticize Robert — with good reason. The man has virtually no analytical thinking skills and throws tantrums like a four-year-old child.

BUT, the number of Scoble sycophants far outnumbers the occasionally critical, as anyone reading this thread can tell. For every Lazy, there are at least two Francines performing verbal fellatio on Robert. I find people like that much more irritating because they NEVER have anything substantive to say. The critics are at least well-informed.

As for Roberts’ current hissy fit, it is about his ego. Not only will Steve Jobs not give him the time of day, Robert attended what turned out to be the wrong convention and even got dissed by Bill Gates while there. He had a bad week and is taking it out on Apple.

P.S.:

So, Ben Scoble is the family bigot, eh? Mo wonder he resides in Virginia.
LayZ

@12 How do we know what the hell he means half the time? He’s either not completely reading articles to which he links and thus missing the points (Cuban, Nick Carr) or he’s pulling facts out of his ass. So, I gave him the benefit of the doubt when he said “Z list bloggers” (he didn’t say “at least” so I won’t put words in his mouth). So, I simply asked for examples of Ballmer and Ozzie talking with…okay…how’s this….”lesser known bloggers”? Do you have examples if them engaging directly with lesser known bloggers. If we are going to hold Jobs to some type of standard, we might as well hold his peers to the same standard.
LayZ

@12 How do we know what the hell he means half the time? He’s either not completely reading articles to which he links and thus missing the points (Cuban, Nick Carr) or he’s pulling facts out of his ass. So, I gave him the benefit of the doubt when he said “Z list bloggers” (he didn’t say “at least” so I won’t put words in his mouth). So, I simply asked for examples of Ballmer and Ozzie talking with…okay…how’s this….”lesser known bloggers”? Do you have examples if them engaging directly with lesser known bloggers. If we are going to hold Jobs to some type of standard, we might as well hold his peers to the same standard.
http://scobleizer.com/ Robert Scoble

Gates met with dozens of bloggers at CES, not just Engadget and Gizmodo, including folks like Robert McLaws who, if not a Z lister, isn’t on the A list either: http://www.neowin.net/events/?p=22
http://scobleizer.com/ Robert Scoble

Gates met with dozens of bloggers at CES, not just Engadget and Gizmodo, including folks like Robert McLaws who, if not a Z lister, isn’t on the A list either: http://www.neowin.net/events/?p=22
http://scobleizer.com/ Robert Scoble

>Robert attended what turned out to be the wrong convention

That’s funny. One had 2,700 vendors. The other had one. It’s also funny that most of the journalists who went to MacWorld flew back to CES to finish their coverage of CES. Many more words were written about CES in end analysis.

OK, Apple had the hottest product. No doubt there. But it was only one. They didn’t have any car stereos. They didn’t have any robots. They didn’t have any home stereos. They didn’t have any plasmas. They didn’t have any new PCs. And they didn’t have the adult entertainment industry.

I love Apple fans. They assume the world revolves around Apple and Apple alone.

It’s a funny distortion field Steve Jobs throws on you.
http://scobleizer.com/ Robert Scoble

>Robert attended what turned out to be the wrong convention

That’s funny. One had 2,700 vendors. The other had one. It’s also funny that most of the journalists who went to MacWorld flew back to CES to finish their coverage of CES. Many more words were written about CES in end analysis.

OK, Apple had the hottest product. No doubt there. But it was only one. They didn’t have any car stereos. They didn’t have any robots. They didn’t have any home stereos. They didn’t have any plasmas. They didn’t have any new PCs. And they didn’t have the adult entertainment industry.

I love Apple fans. They assume the world revolves around Apple and Apple alone.

It’s a funny distortion field Steve Jobs throws on you.
http://scobleizer.com/ Robert Scoble

LayZ: Ozzie comes to O’Reilly’s conferences and hangs out with all bloggers (he also came to Dave Winer’s OPML meeting where he hung around afterward and talked with everyone). I’ve never seen Steve Jobs just hang around bloggers and/or tech geeks and talk with them.
http://scobleizer.com/ Robert Scoble

LayZ: Ozzie comes to O’Reilly’s conferences and hangs out with all bloggers (he also came to Dave Winer’s OPML meeting where he hung around afterward and talked with everyone). I’ve never seen Steve Jobs just hang around bloggers and/or tech geeks and talk with them.
MrPants

While i certainly respect your gripe about Apple not talking to bloggers, i don’t understand the bending over backward to take shots at Apple. I guy starts blogging and you turn it into an attack on Apple. Is the next post going to be:

“Bush sends more troops to Iraq! To bad they won’t be able to use an Apple TV there to watch 1080i content, or use the iPhone because it won’t work there.”

You certainly give the impression that give the impression that you have an axe to grind with the company and will jump at any chance to take potshots at them.
MrPants

While i certainly respect your gripe about Apple not talking to bloggers, i don’t understand the bending over backward to take shots at Apple. I guy starts blogging and you turn it into an attack on Apple. Is the next post going to be:

“Bush sends more troops to Iraq! To bad they won’t be able to use an Apple TV there to watch 1080i content, or use the iPhone because it won’t work there.”

You certainly give the impression that give the impression that you have an axe to grind with the company and will jump at any chance to take potshots at them.
Surfbits

Mujibur,
That wasn’t me that compared CES to Macworld, I seldon post here only when I think the Redmond kool-Aid is getting too deep.. and thanks for the kind words. What are you all of 12 or 13?
Surfbits

Mujibur,
That wasn’t me that compared CES to Macworld, I seldon post here only when I think the Redmond kool-Aid is getting too deep.. and thanks for the kind words. What are you all of 12 or 13?
DaveD

So how did a post about Steven Levy of Newsweek blogging turn into a religion war about Apple?

Oh yeah, that’s right… barely 2 hours after saying “I can get some sleep” Robert mentions Apple in a post that has nothing to do with Apple.

You sound a bit jealous Robert. Maybe you need to get some sleep?
DaveD

So how did a post about Steven Levy of Newsweek blogging turn into a religion war about Apple?

Oh yeah, that’s right… barely 2 hours after saying “I can get some sleep” Robert mentions Apple in a post that has nothing to do with Apple.

You sound a bit jealous Robert. Maybe you need to get some sleep?
Goebbels

“The other had one.”

One vendor at MacWorld? Get a clue, Scoble. There were 400 vendors. Not 2700 admittedly, but maybe if your could get your accuracy level above 2%, you might, big “might”, get treated like 2% of a journalist.
Goebbels

“The other had one.”

One vendor at MacWorld? Get a clue, Scoble. There were 400 vendors. Not 2700 admittedly, but maybe if your could get your accuracy level above 2%, you might, big “might”, get treated like 2% of a journalist.
http://glpelletier.wordpress.com/ Guy Pelletier

You hate him , love him, be a Apple fanboy, or what ever. The facts are
For the last 10 post that Roberts has done:
He has received a total of 615 comments (as of this comments date and time) with an average of 61.5 comments per post.
His highest comment count was 183 and the lowest was 6.

All ten of these post where written as of January 9, 2007

With interaction of this magnatude, Robert is getting it done and his methods are proving productive.

He has people nit picking over verbage and stimulated read conversation.

No wonder he is in the top 100

Guy
http://glpelletier.wordpress.com Guy Pelletier

You hate him , love him, be a Apple fanboy, or what ever. The facts are
For the last 10 post that Roberts has done:
He has received a total of 615 comments (as of this comments date and time) with an average of 61.5 comments per post.
His highest comment count was 183 and the lowest was 6.

All ten of these post where written as of January 9, 2007

With interaction of this magnatude, Robert is getting it done and his methods are proving productive.

He has people nit picking over verbage and stimulated read conversation.

No wonder he is in the top 100

Guy
http://glpelletier.wordpress.com/ Guy Pelletier

That should be

stimulated real conversation.

Guy
http://glpelletier.wordpress.com Guy Pelletier

That should be

stimulated real conversation.

Guy
blogger@wordpress

@31 – Diego, I’m sorry. You are not even eligible to get an enrollment application to ‘The Club’. You don’t call names, you dont get in to a fit of rage every time Steve Jobs or Apple is mentioned in a not so positive light.;-)

@32 – It’s not about criticizm. It’s about personal attacks and namecalling.

@33 – I strongly think you understand what Robert means. And mostly i agree with what you have to say. But certainly not this time. The ‘Z list’ issue came in when he answered to someone who claimed he was showing “A list mentality”.

@40 – “There were 400 vendors”
Really. You’ve got me there. I didnt find a mention of any of the 399 other vendors in Techmeme. Those vendors should really think if it’s worth going to a expo where they don’t even get covered. (But what do i know, they probably were listed like how they list actor names at the end of movies-

Waiter #1 – John Doe
Waiter #2 – Jane Doe
CO-Passenger #1 – …)
blogger@wordpress

@31 – Diego, I’m sorry. You are not even eligible to get an enrollment application to ‘The Club’. You don’t call names, you dont get in to a fit of rage every time Steve Jobs or Apple is mentioned in a not so positive light.;-)

@32 – It’s not about criticizm. It’s about personal attacks and namecalling.

@33 – I strongly think you understand what Robert means. And mostly i agree with what you have to say. But certainly not this time. The ‘Z list’ issue came in when he answered to someone who claimed he was showing “A list mentality”.

@40 – “There were 400 vendors”
Really. You’ve got me there. I didnt find a mention of any of the 399 other vendors in Techmeme. Those vendors should really think if it’s worth going to a expo where they don’t even get covered. (But what do i know, they probably were listed like how they list actor names at the end of movies-

Waiter #1 – John Doe
Waiter #2 – Jane Doe
CO-Passenger #1 – …)
stevek

““There were 400 vendors”
Really. You’ve got me there. I didnt find a mention of any of the 399 other vendors in Techmeme.”

Really, dude, thats lame.

The Mac press is all over the macworld announcements, the floor was packed around all the booths, vendors demoing, selling, it was a blast.
stevek

““There were 400 vendors”
Really. You’ve got me there. I didnt find a mention of any of the 399 other vendors in Techmeme.”

Really, dude, thats lame.

The Mac press is all over the macworld announcements, the floor was packed around all the booths, vendors demoing, selling, it was a blast.
blogger@wordpress

@44 – “Really, dude, thats lame.”
Hey i didnt go to MacWorld/CES. Techmeme is my exclusive window to the tech world. Lame? may be, i don’t have an option though.

Besides, my point still stands. I didnt find any mention of the vendors from Mac world in techmeme. Did you? ( i didn’t say there weren’t any vendors in mac world)
blogger@wordpress

@44 – “Really, dude, thats lame.”
Hey i didnt go to MacWorld/CES. Techmeme is my exclusive window to the tech world. Lame? may be, i don’t have an option though.

Besides, my point still stands. I didnt find any mention of the vendors from Mac world in techmeme. Did you? ( i didn’t say there weren’t any vendors in mac world)
Goebbels

“Techmeme is my exclusive window to the tech world. Lame? may be, i don’t have an option though.”

Why is techmeme your exclusive window? Why do you have no option?

Yes, you are lame.

In fact, Scoble should have been all over two of the vendors at MacWorld: he finally got his mythical MacTablet.
Goebbels

“Techmeme is my exclusive window to the tech world. Lame? may be, i don’t have an option though.”

Why is techmeme your exclusive window? Why do you have no option?

Yes, you are lame.

In fact, Scoble should have been all over two of the vendors at MacWorld: he finally got his mythical MacTablet.
blogger@wordpress

@46 – Why is TechMeme as an exclusive window such a bad thing? What are your sources?
blogger@wordpress

@46 – Why is TechMeme as an exclusive window such a bad thing? What are your sources?
Goebbels

I don’t even want to waste my time typing them all, but a few would be: google news, nyt, engadget, gizmodo, cnet news, arstechnica, neowin, activewin, macdailynews, appleinsider, tuaw, macrumors, computerwould, pcmag, wired, valleywag, techmeme, gigaom, crunchgear, slashdot, the register, win info, microsoft watch…

but that’s a short list.

Conversely, why is an exclusive window a good thing? Do you think anyone is impressed with that narrow-minded and absurd view? I can’t imagine anyone is.
Goebbels

I don’t even want to waste my time typing them all, but a few would be: google news, nyt, engadget, gizmodo, cnet news, arstechnica, neowin, activewin, macdailynews, appleinsider, tuaw, macrumors, computerwould, pcmag, wired, valleywag, techmeme, gigaom, crunchgear, slashdot, the register, win info, microsoft watch…

but that’s a short list.

Conversely, why is an exclusive window a good thing? Do you think anyone is impressed with that narrow-minded and absurd view? I can’t imagine anyone is.
blogger@wordpress

huh…Whats with the schooling?

You aware that techmeme doesn’t have any ‘own artciles’ and just links to the hot topics from other sites? All – as in *ALL* – the sites you have mentioned get linked by techmeme. When i say techmeme i thought it was obvious that i was refering to the websites whose artciles appear on techmeme.

I was really hoping a more meaningful answer from you .
blogger@wordpress

huh…Whats with the schooling?

You aware that techmeme doesn’t have any ‘own artciles’ and just links to the hot topics from other sites? All – as in *ALL* – the sites you have mentioned get linked by techmeme. When i say techmeme i thought it was obvious that i was refering to the websites whose artciles appear on techmeme.

I was really hoping a more meaningful answer from you .
Goebbels

“Whats with the schooling?”

Umm, you’re an idiot. How’s that for meaningful. Thousand upon thousands of articles never appear on TechMeme on a daily basis. All, as in all, tech articles are not on techmeme.

I’m really waiting on your meaningful answer as to why it’s so brilliant to sit and look at one site and one site only. Clearly you missed tons of MacWorld coverage and somehow this is my fault because your web browser and internet connection only allow you to visit one site.
Goebbels

“Whats with the schooling?”

Umm, you’re an idiot. How’s that for meaningful. Thousand upon thousands of articles never appear on TechMeme on a daily basis. All, as in all, tech articles are not on techmeme.

I’m really waiting on your meaningful answer as to why it’s so brilliant to sit and look at one site and one site only. Clearly you missed tons of MacWorld coverage and somehow this is my fault because your web browser and internet connection only allow you to visit one site.

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