Interesting how the big gadget sites, like Gizmodo and Engadget, don’t link to blogs UPDATE8: I went overboard. Sometimes I do that. I apologize to Engadget and Gizmodo. Move along, nothing to see here (but read the comments anyway, they are where the real action is).
Gizmodo went even further. They deleted a comment of mine, on this post about Intel, where I pointed out I had some video about the Intel announcements last night that’d add onto their posts. UPDATE5: Just called Brian Lam at Gizmodo, he says he didn’t delete the comment and is looking into it. UPDATE 6: Lockhart Steele says my comment was stuck in an approval queue. Engadget hasn’t linked, but hasn’t removed my comment, either. Engadget wins!
It’s interesting how everyone links to the New York Times, who of course doesn’t link to blogs, but very few bloggers will link to another blogger who got access to something they didn’t.
I’ve noticed this “not linking” trend is growing on blogs. It used to be bloggers used to link to everything. Now you hardly find a link on any blog. What’s going on here? Steve Gillmor wins! 
I remember a former boss of mine telling me “do not link off property.” Translation: the audience is treated like a roach. You can walk into the gadget site, but you dare not go to another blog.
What’s funny is that this opens up opportunities. I link to all the closed systems (that’s what my link blog is all about). I want my readers to have the best and most complete information on a topic.
I guess Gizmodo and Engadget don’t really want that for their readers.
UPDATE: Slashdot doesn’t link either. Neither does AnandTech. Neither does Hot Hardware.
UPDATE 2: Neither does Daily Tech. Neither does Silicon Valley Sleuth. Neither does the Tech News Journal. Neither does PCLaunches. Neither does BDUO. Or GPUWiki. Neither does SEO Blogger. Neither does Fanboy Tech Web. Neither does BitTech. Neither does ZDNet.
Digg doesn’t link. Neither does the “laziest blogger on the Net” (although he has the best excuse!)
Emiratesmac DOES link. I subscribed. TUAW DOES link. I’m already subscribed. Why are the Mac sites better at linking?
TechMeme DOES link. Any wonder why that site is gaining more and more readers every day? And people think it’s elitist! The problem is that it’s the least elitist of all these “non-linking” blogs.
UPDATE3: Last Podcast DOES link.
UPDATE4: Peter Rojas, in my comments, says I owe Engadget an apology. They did link to my Bill Gates’ lunch video, so I agree I probably went overboard. But even that link came after the news had broken. But, I am sorry for going overboard.
UPDATE7: Ars Technical DOES link.
UPDATE8: I apologize to Gizmodo and Engadget. They link to blogs. Just not mine unless I raise a stink.
UPDATE9: The Guardian DOES link. JD Lasica does NOT link. Overclock.net does NOT link. Vinnie Mirchandani does NOT link. Flexbeta does NOT link. ITNews does NOT link.
Engadget had deleted my comment which referred to the same article appearing in Gizmodo. The comment was deleted. I submitted another comment asking why it was deleted. This comment got deleted too.
I understand that it was money for them and they were running a business and all that. I just lost interest after that.
I don’t think I’ve commented there ever since. This was like a year and half ago.
Engadget had deleted my comment which referred to the same article appearing in Gizmodo. The comment was deleted. I submitted another comment asking why it was deleted. This comment got deleted too.
I understand that it was money for them and they were running a business and all that. I just lost interest after that.
I don’t think I’ve commented there ever since. This was like a year and half ago.
[...] course, I teased Robert a bit about his post yesterday, I told him he had so many updates he “should have just published a wiki” so everyone [...]
Pot calling kettle black
Yesterday, Robert Scobel ranted, Big gadget sites dont link to blogs and then backed off a bit. But, back when I first wrote Google Reader could be a Digg killer!?!???? and Steve Rubel first picked up on it, Scobel immediately…
Yuvi,
I agree with Robert, the analysis that you did on Scoble’s blog covers all the primaries. If you would use that as a standard for blog analysis, you would be able to do comparison across sites.
I would still like to see something on the comments to his posts
Guy
Yuvi,
I agree with Robert, the analysis that you did on Scoble’s blog covers all the primaries. If you would use that as a standard for blog analysis, you would be able to do comparison across sites.
I would still like to see something on the comments to his posts
Guy
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[...] Links are what makes the web world go round but not all links are created equal. Looks like Scoble lashed out against Engadget. It’s understandable that when you have what you feel is good content (like [...]
[...] Big gadget sites don’t link to blogs (I went overboard, read updates) « Scobleizer – Tech Geek Bl…: the blogosphere reminds me A LOT of third grade. Could you imagine for a moment if a magazine author or a reporter at a newspaper threw a tantrum in the sandbox because they had a story FIRST god-damnit, and no one cared? Right. You can skip to the end and leave a response. Pinging is currently not allowed. [...]
Scoble stirring the pot, eh?
You are kind of wrong on the New York Times not linking to blogs unless you mean inline comments (?), yes/no?
They linked to one of my posts recently from their business section. Admittedly this linking is rare, but they do link to blogs.
And my contact with the writer of the piece told me that’s he’s been working on them to make the links inline instead of in the sidebar for the last year. Progress with MSM takes time.
Scoble stirring the pot, eh?
You are kind of wrong on the New York Times not linking to blogs unless you mean inline comments (?), yes/no?
They linked to one of my posts recently from their business section. Admittedly this linking is rare, but they do link to blogs.
And my contact with the writer of the piece told me that’s he’s been working on them to make the links inline instead of in the sidebar for the last year. Progress with MSM takes time.
Engadget has linked to my gadget site at:
http://www.svartlinks.com/ , but Gizmodo have never linked. But I think they would if they find something interesting
Maybe your video clip isn’t interesting enough? They usually don’t post about video clips.
And personally I don’t want them to do that either. There are too much sites posting links to Youtube video clips already….
Engadget has linked to my gadget site at:
http://www.svartlinks.com/ , but Gizmodo have never linked. But I think they would if they find something interesting
Maybe your video clip isn’t interesting enough? They usually don’t post about video clips.
And personally I don’t want them to do that either. There are too much sites posting links to Youtube video clips already….
[...] Scoble made himself the talk of the blogosphere with his protestations about gadget blogs, notably Gizmodo and Engadget not recognising his scoop [...]
[...] friend, Robert Scoble, has two great rants up about blogging & linking: Big gadget sites don’t link to blogs followed by Pissing off the [...]
I think all news sites on the net should be featuring trackbacks by now, telling who’s linking to who. Isn’t that what Web 2.0 is all about? And if I re-report a story, I ALWAYS put the series of people who reported it first (my sources).
I think all news sites on the net should be featuring trackbacks by now, telling who’s linking to who. Isn’t that what Web 2.0 is all about? And if I re-report a story, I ALWAYS put the series of people who reported it first (my sources).
[...] Scoble has raised a ruckus in a corner of the blogosphere this weekend (and here and here) by complaining about the lack of “credit links” among [...]
[...] http://scobleizer.com/2007/01/27/big-gadget-sites-dont-link-to-blogs/ [...]
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[...] the weekend Robert Scoble started a big bushfire, claiming that big blogs don’t link to other blogs. He’s right, but unfortunately for [...]
[...] that he had an video interview and when the gadget blogs didn’t really pay any attention, Scoble got pissed. He ranted, which I would have done too, but when you are essentially blogger #1, you really have [...]
[...] Robert Scoble manages to piss off quite a few people yesterday with his post about big blogs not linking to people, who writes a [...]
We have a blog that is in the same space as a major Weblogs, Inc., blog. We often used to break stories and do not get linked to. The way we have handled it is:
(1) Send friendly e-mail announcements of major stories to go up in the next hour or so directly to one of the Weblogs, Inc., bloggers. This functions as a sort of “we’re watching you” notice, without being obnoxious or burning our bridges. If that blogger ever screws us, we switch our announcements to another one.
(2) Make sure we are the source to go to — our coverage needs to have some exclusive aspect to it, or we really can’t blame anyone for not linking to us. This usually involves turning off the computer and getting on the telephone, something bloggers seem to have forgotten how to do.
Still, their tiny “Link” at the bottom doesn’t bring in a lot of traffic, and they don’t seem to like linking from inside the story, unless it’s to AOL.
We have a blog that is in the same space as a major Weblogs, Inc., blog. We often used to break stories and do not get linked to. The way we have handled it is:
(1) Send friendly e-mail announcements of major stories to go up in the next hour or so directly to one of the Weblogs, Inc., bloggers. This functions as a sort of “we’re watching you” notice, without being obnoxious or burning our bridges. If that blogger ever screws us, we switch our announcements to another one.
(2) Make sure we are the source to go to — our coverage needs to have some exclusive aspect to it, or we really can’t blame anyone for not linking to us. This usually involves turning off the computer and getting on the telephone, something bloggers seem to have forgotten how to do.
Still, their tiny “Link” at the bottom doesn’t bring in a lot of traffic, and they don’t seem to like linking from inside the story, unless it’s to AOL.
Rock and Roll…the back an forth, he said – he said, nature of this post is the most entertaining thing I have seen on a blog in a long time. By the time I reached comment #75 I no longer understood the issue at hand, nor do I even care. I just think it is cool that A-List bloggers can have such a nasty pulbic exchange (aka pissing match). If this was Hollywood they would drag Shannon Daugherty out to throw a drink in someone’s face.
I think you will set a record for number of comments in a week.
Rock and Roll…the back an forth, he said – he said, nature of this post is the most entertaining thing I have seen on a blog in a long time. By the time I reached comment #75 I no longer understood the issue at hand, nor do I even care. I just think it is cool that A-List bloggers can have such a nasty pulbic exchange (aka pissing match). If this was Hollywood they would drag Shannon Daugherty out to throw a drink in someone’s face.
I think you will set a record for number of comments in a week.
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Robert,
Come in off the ledge on this one. Let these comments trickle off on this one. Only thse who risk going too far will know how far one can go. You blew this one. You apologized. Get on to a new subject.
Robert,
Come in off the ledge on this one. Let these comments trickle off on this one. Only thse who risk going too far will know how far one can go. You blew this one. You apologized. Get on to a new subject.
Wow. You win the Biggest Douche of the Week award, and it’s still Monday.
Wow. You win the Biggest Douche of the Week award, and it’s still Monday.
matto: I won that award on Saturday. So, I guess I’m winning it two weeks in a row! Thank you, thank you, thank you.
matto: I won that award on Saturday. So, I guess I’m winning it two weeks in a row! Thank you, thank you, thank you.
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[...] the last couple of days he seems to of lost his fricken mind. He started this weekend by posting a story accusing other large blogs like Engadget of not linking to him which I already commented on. He [...]
You got paid to shoot the video for Intel did you not?
You got paid to shoot the video for Intel did you not?