Pissing off the blogosphere…

OK, I think I made about 50 enemies yesterday. Telling people they don’t link, I learned, is one way to get everyone’s panties in a bunch.

Ryan Block, who is one of the main guys at Engadget, responds to yesterday’s rant with a long piece. Basically says that they went through an editorial process and found my video yesterday didn’t have any news value to Engadget’s readers.

Now, that’s new information. I disagree. First of all, I had the news out at 9:00 p.m. on Friday evening. Half an hour before Engadget had its news out.

Second of all, I had quotes DIRECTLY from Intel’s top management about the new 45 nm processors and how they did it ON VIDEO. This is something that Engadget didn’t have, and doesn’t have. That alone is news value for Engadget to link to.

In my two videos (and a third really cool one that PodTech.net did) we get the news about Intel’s new 45nm fab, and go way beyond what Engadget put up.

But the news of my videos isn’t WHAT was discussed in them, but rather the TOUR itself. I expect at least a few of Engadget’s readers would love to see the place where the chips inside many of their gadgets are made and hear from the people who make those chips directly instead of reading just something that sounds like a press release rewrite. Maybe that’s just me?

UPDATE2: Today Engadget has an article about a cancer patient getting their Xbox ripped off. You telling me THAT has more news value for Engadget’s readers than a tour of Intel’s factory which also included discussion of Intel’s new chips coming out later this year and how Intel got that breakthrough done? Give me a break.

Another point? That I’ve become less interesting since leaving Microsoft. Well, I think that’s because Engadget isn’t watching ScobleShow.com. Including an interview with the Zune team that wasn’t linked to by Engadget or Gizmodo, either.

Over there, in just four months, I’ve posted more than 120 videos, gotten more than 70 interviews with Silicon Valley CEOs, and had some real interesting ones with Retrevo and gang at CES, among others. But, nah, that’s not as interesting as seeing inside Microsoft, is it?

Oh, Gizmodo DOES link. Dan Farber, of ZDNet DOES link.

So does Alex Torex.

Frederic, in the Last Podcast blog, says this is part of a bigger blogger backlash (he sees it in places like Digg).

Jason Calacanis (the guy who founded Engadget) says the real “non-linking” enemy is the mainstream press. Ahh, but Jason, that’s why I was so pissed off yesterday. Every blog was linking to the New York Times (or, not linking to anyone, like the Engadget and Gizmodo pieces didn’t do) but they weren’t linking to the blog that ACTUALLY got the real news, straight from inside the Intel fab (the New York Times didn’t get you that). The truth is, if bloggers don’t link to other bloggers and, instead, link to the New York Times, they are just reinforcing the mainstream media’s position.

Michael Letterle says “I think the real problem is bloggers producing unique content.” Oh, that indeed is a problem, but on ScobleShow.com I’m producing one to two videos a day and finding it very tough to get links. Even when I’ve gotten something really exclusive. Seems most bloggers would rather link to the New York Times than start up a blog search engine and look for something really unique coming through.

Munir Umrani remains above it all, saying, “Does it bother me if another blogger doesn’t link to The Blogging Journalist? No. Am I appreciative if someone does? Yes. ”

But, Munir, how would anyone find you if you never are linked to? Especially if bloggers and journalists demonstrate they won’t do a simple blog search to see what else someone has written about a topic?

Scoble: pissing off the blogosphere so you don’t have to. :-)

UPDATE: TechCrunch’s Mike Arrington writes “Wow, Scoble just threw himself under a bus.”

I should update my last line, then to: Scoble: throwing himself under busses so you don’t have to. ;-)

Thanks to Ze Frank! (I stole the “so you don’t have to” line from him, which is where I heard it first).

UPDATE2: It’s funny to watch more bloggers come online and link to the New York Times, without linking to anything else. BloggingStocks does NOT link.

UPDATE3: Slashdot links to a CNET tour of Lucas Film’s datacenter, but they won’t link to my tour of Intel’s 45nm fab. Interesting editorial judgment at these big sites.

439 thoughts on “Pissing off the blogosphere…

  1. I’m glad I’m not the only one who doesn’t like the movie Blood and Chocolate. Who ever made it scrude up roally. And thats putting it lightly. I would like to tell off the person resopsible for my favorite book. I’ve read it over 50 times. I would have read it more but I have kids to think about. If any of you could tell who I need to bitch out about the movie let me know throught my e-mail address.

  2. I’m glad I’m not the only one who doesn’t like the movie Blood and Chocolate. Who ever made it scrude up roally. And thats putting it lightly. I would like to tell off the person resopsible for my favorite book. I’ve read it over 50 times. I would have read it more but I have kids to think about. If any of you could tell who I need to bitch out about the movie let me know throught my e-mail address.

  3. I want you all to know that Jay Mick does not have any negitive feeling directed at any of you personally. I am on no one’s side in this information war. The reason I am seeking someone to speak for your side is because it is extremely essential. Many of you are still going around acting like your technology is so advanced that your idenity will be protected. The Central Intellegence Agency has been monitoring your activity for a long time.

    There has been crimes commited through these networks that are unforgivable. Many peoples lives are going to be destoryed for the things they did on a computer. I am trying to reach sometype of agreement, because the people need to be pacified. I am a free agent and I will be acting openly to help workout sometype of plan.

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  4. I want you all to know that Jay Mick does not have any negitive feeling directed at any of you personally. I am on no one’s side in this information war. The reason I am seeking someone to speak for your side is because it is extremely essential. Many of you are still going around acting like your technology is so advanced that your idenity will be protected. The Central Intellegence Agency has been monitoring your activity for a long time.

    There has been crimes commited through these networks that are unforgivable. Many peoples lives are going to be destoryed for the things they did on a computer. I am trying to reach sometype of agreement, because the people need to be pacified. I am a free agent and I will be acting openly to help workout sometype of plan.

    I am speaking for all parties involved. JayMickCIA@aol.com……..We have to make some changes for the good of humanity. There is a class war brewing and you need to act accordinly. Please contact me, because right now I am forced to create panic.

  5. Wow, I can’t believe you don’t see how arrogant you come across in this post. It’s almost sickening to me as a casual reader. It began even before the cancer comment, too.

    You may be a good person, but that’s not coming across in a lot of your posts, Robert. The book “How to Win Friends and Influence People” may be of use to you; it was to me.

  6. Wow, I can’t believe you don’t see how arrogant you come across in this post. It’s almost sickening to me as a casual reader. It began even before the cancer comment, too.

    You may be a good person, but that’s not coming across in a lot of your posts, Robert. The book “How to Win Friends and Influence People” may be of use to you; it was to me.

  7. Good point! This sounds strong shady.
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  8. Good point! This sounds strong shady.
    I like blogging .The blog was simply a communications tool and channel for the “encouragement” group recognized.

    I have listen that people are finding a good job on blogs, as in outsourcing people also get paid for blog comment.
    Haven’t you seen the same thing on Guestbook and Forums these days, damn automatic spamming programs?
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  9. Scobble is falling into the dark side of the blogosphere ;-) A post just to talk about himself and how come someone refer to him WIHTOUT linking !!!!!! And how come they also have a different view on what is important and not !!!!!
    This is definitely the best online harakiri I ever see !
    Robert, who do you actually think you are ? Being number 86 thanks to interesting posting is one thing, but that certainly does not make you any sort of king with an absolute vision on anything. And please, if you pay no respect for other people, at least try to have just a little for people suffering sickness.
    I think this ranking based on linking is totally perverting the blogosphere quality. Something based on audience and voting by readers would probably bring more value……

  10. Scobble is falling into the dark side of the blogosphere ;-) A post just to talk about himself and how come someone refer to him WIHTOUT linking !!!!!! And how come they also have a different view on what is important and not !!!!!
    This is definitely the best online harakiri I ever see !
    Robert, who do you actually think you are ? Being number 86 thanks to interesting posting is one thing, but that certainly does not make you any sort of king with an absolute vision on anything. And please, if you pay no respect for other people, at least try to have just a little for people suffering sickness.
    I think this ranking based on linking is totally perverting the blogosphere quality. Something based on audience and voting by readers would probably bring more value……

  11. My humble opinion is that you should stick to blogging. Video just isn’t your thing. You’re just not a good interviewer and video guy, but I like your blog. Also this Podtech job has made you into a sellout.

  12. My humble opinion is that you should stick to blogging. Video just isn’t your thing. You’re just not a good interviewer and video guy, but I like your blog. Also this Podtech job has made you into a sellout.

  13. John: I’m not apologizing. You are stretching what I said into something I didn’t say. I clarified it once for you. I guess you’re too dense to get it so, with that, I bid you good day.

  14. John: I’m not apologizing. You are stretching what I said into something I didn’t say. I clarified it once for you. I guess you’re too dense to get it so, with that, I bid you good day.

  15. Or maybe Rogers Cadenhead said it best on Work Bench when he wrote:

    Robert Scoble, the former Microsoft blogger who’s now a exec at podcasting startup PodTech, recently engaged in the following exchange with one of his readers:

    Reader: You think Intel making a smaller chip is more important than cancer?

    Scoble: having cancer is important to THAT ONE PERSON. Intel chips change the lives of hundreds of millions of people.

    Scoble, the 86th-most-linked blogger on the planet, is angry that more blogs don’t link to him, so he made an example of the tech site Engadget for ignoring two videos he shot about Intel’s new chip:

    Today Engadget has an article about a cancer patient getting their Xbox ripped off. You telling me THAT has more news value for Engadget’s readers than a tour of Intel’s factory which also included discussion of Intel’s new chips coming out later this year and how Intel got that breakthrough done? Give me a break.

    Intel’s a PodTech client that has paid the company to produce a gauzy promotional video about its new chip, a relationship PodTech was two days late in disclosing.

    Though Scoble claims he wasn’t paid to produce 48 minutes of unedited, more-important-than-cancer video about Intel, I can’t see any sane reason he should be treated as an objective judge of the company’s news value.

    Scoble’s the vice president of media development for PodTech. Intel’s a major client. What would Scoble have said if his visit to its factory revealed an underwhelming new chip that’s only as important as Restless Leg Syndrome?

  16. Or maybe Rogers Cadenhead said it best on Work Bench when he wrote:

    Robert Scoble, the former Microsoft blogger who’s now a exec at podcasting startup PodTech, recently engaged in the following exchange with one of his readers:

    Reader: You think Intel making a smaller chip is more important than cancer?

    Scoble: having cancer is important to THAT ONE PERSON. Intel chips change the lives of hundreds of millions of people.

    Scoble, the 86th-most-linked blogger on the planet, is angry that more blogs don’t link to him, so he made an example of the tech site Engadget for ignoring two videos he shot about Intel’s new chip:

    Today Engadget has an article about a cancer patient getting their Xbox ripped off. You telling me THAT has more news value for Engadget’s readers than a tour of Intel’s factory which also included discussion of Intel’s new chips coming out later this year and how Intel got that breakthrough done? Give me a break.

    Intel’s a PodTech client that has paid the company to produce a gauzy promotional video about its new chip, a relationship PodTech was two days late in disclosing.

    Though Scoble claims he wasn’t paid to produce 48 minutes of unedited, more-important-than-cancer video about Intel, I can’t see any sane reason he should be treated as an objective judge of the company’s news value.

    Scoble’s the vice president of media development for PodTech. Intel’s a major client. What would Scoble have said if his visit to its factory revealed an underwhelming new chip that’s only as important as Restless Leg Syndrome?

  17. Mr. Scoble,

    You have never apologized for the cancer portion of your comment that I know of in any way, shape or form. When you make comments like that and don’t apologize and the only thing you acknowledge is that you pissed off the blogosphere for complaining about them not linking to you, then I think pointing out to others what you said and why it is wrong is fair game. You were an insensitive jackass to everyone that has cancer or lost someone to cancer. I was an insensitive jackass to you and you alone because of what you said regarding cancer and Intel. By the way when is the real apology coming? I mean it’s only been three weeks or so.

  18. Mr. Scoble,

    You have never apologized for the cancer portion of your comment that I know of in any way, shape or form. When you make comments like that and don’t apologize and the only thing you acknowledge is that you pissed off the blogosphere for complaining about them not linking to you, then I think pointing out to others what you said and why it is wrong is fair game. You were an insensitive jackass to everyone that has cancer or lost someone to cancer. I was an insensitive jackass to you and you alone because of what you said regarding cancer and Intel. By the way when is the real apology coming? I mean it’s only been three weeks or so.

  19. I guess Robert that you’ve just discovered one of the great pitfalls of PR.

    That great news release, pitch, video, interview didn’t produce the result you thought it would.

    The reporter didn’t get it, was too busy, there was too much news, was short-staffed, didn’t understand the technology or market, was a newby …. all conspire to kill a potentially great stories.

    The rest of the media work this way, bloggers too will work this way because that is how reporting (even amateur reporting) gets done.

    So much for ‘social networking’, which smells a lot like plain old influence PR to this old PR guy. Think of it as electronic campaigning, same principles apply as regular campaigning only the communications vehicles change.

    The more things change, the more they stay the same …

  20. I guess Robert that you’ve just discovered one of the great pitfalls of PR.

    That great news release, pitch, video, interview didn’t produce the result you thought it would.

    The reporter didn’t get it, was too busy, there was too much news, was short-staffed, didn’t understand the technology or market, was a newby …. all conspire to kill a potentially great stories.

    The rest of the media work this way, bloggers too will work this way because that is how reporting (even amateur reporting) gets done.

    So much for ‘social networking’, which smells a lot like plain old influence PR to this old PR guy. Think of it as electronic campaigning, same principles apply as regular campaigning only the communications vehicles change.

    The more things change, the more they stay the same …

  21. John: >>Like don’t be an insensitive jackass.

    Are you listening to yourself? Sounds like not. Cause you just put yourself in judgment to me. Look in the mirror.

  22. John: >>Like don’t be an insensitive jackass.

    Are you listening to yourself? Sounds like not. Cause you just put yourself in judgment to me. Look in the mirror.

  23. Dude you don’t have a clue. In your column above you say you pissed off the blogsphere for telling people they don’t link. Are you crazy? People (I know you think there are no worthy people outside of the blogsphere lick) were pissed off about the cancer comment. And the idea that you don’t get that or mention it in you sort of an apology speaks volumes you.

    It’s funny how a lot of you geeks think you’re smarter than everyone else and yet often miss the obvious. Like don’t be an insensitive jackass. And oh yeah Captain Obivous, maybe just maybe that since LOTS OF PEOPLE HAVE CANCER they might be offended by the “having cancer is important to THAT ONE PERSON. Intel chips change the lives of hundreds of millions of people,” remark. Are you a descendant of Thomas Malthus? And why do Funny how your response is couched in such a way that would make us think we would have to choose. Could that be because – and this is a wild shot in the dark – your bruised ego was enganging your brain and making you speak instead of communicating with your intellect? Get back with me on that. You should be held accountable and responsible for your cancer comment and I for one plan on doing that. For disclosure purposes I made a similar post on cadenhead.org and I am not paid by or employed by PPP.

  24. Dude you don’t have a clue. In your column above you say you pissed off the blogsphere for telling people they don’t link. Are you crazy? People (I know you think there are no worthy people outside of the blogsphere lick) were pissed off about the cancer comment. And the idea that you don’t get that or mention it in you sort of an apology speaks volumes you.

    It’s funny how a lot of you geeks think you’re smarter than everyone else and yet often miss the obvious. Like don’t be an insensitive jackass. And oh yeah Captain Obivous, maybe just maybe that since LOTS OF PEOPLE HAVE CANCER they might be offended by the “having cancer is important to THAT ONE PERSON. Intel chips change the lives of hundreds of millions of people,” remark. Are you a descendant of Thomas Malthus? And why do Funny how your response is couched in such a way that would make us think we would have to choose. Could that be because – and this is a wild shot in the dark – your bruised ego was enganging your brain and making you speak instead of communicating with your intellect? Get back with me on that. You should be held accountable and responsible for your cancer comment and I for one plan on doing that. For disclosure purposes I made a similar post on cadenhead.org and I am not paid by or employed by PPP.

  25. I’m not entirely sure what Robert’s more upset about – that sites like Engadget report stories that he thinks are less interesting to Engadget’s readers than his stories, or that sites that do report on material do not link to his videos as the original source.

    Either way, I think he’s justified in getting the hump, but it’s simply a case of plus ca change, plus c’est la meme chose.

    The publishing technology may be new, but it’s the same old-media complaints – I don’t get the coverage that I’m due, I don’t get the credit that I’m due.

    By all means get annoyed Robert – but don’t expect anything to change ;-)

  26. I’m not entirely sure what Robert’s more upset about – that sites like Engadget report stories that he thinks are less interesting to Engadget’s readers than his stories, or that sites that do report on material do not link to his videos as the original source.

    Either way, I think he’s justified in getting the hump, but it’s simply a case of plus ca change, plus c’est la meme chose.

    The publishing technology may be new, but it’s the same old-media complaints – I don’t get the coverage that I’m due, I don’t get the credit that I’m due.

    By all means get annoyed Robert – but don’t expect anything to change ;-)

  27. concerning your comments about cancer it is obvious that you have no idea about that desease and moreover you do not respect human life. even if you believe such a thing you do not say only as respect to the people who have lost a loving person. greetings from greece.

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