Windows Vista vs. OSX debate now up

OK, if you like short videos you won’t like these. Move along. Click “J” if you’re using Google Reader.

But, if you’re a real freak like me you’ll probably enjoy two hours of Mac vs. Windows Vista debates with four experts. I love how Maryam ends the second video.

Fred Davis has the details. Yes, we’ve posted about four hours of videos with me and Fred in them in the past two days.

I invited four geeks, representing both sides of the OS aisle. First is Fred Davis, co-founder of Wired Magazine. Second is Harry McCracken, editor in chief of PC World. Third is Sam Levin, founder of Stanford Mac User Group, among other Mac things. Fourth is Jeremy Toeman who worked at Sling Media when I first met him.

This was filmed in my living room. I’m rewatching it now and it’s actually quite fun. Hope you enjoy it, even though it’s two hours long.

It took a while to get into the Windows Vista stuff that’s good (the second hour has more of that, including discussion of .NET 3.0 and what’s good about that). If you actually do watch the video you’ll get quite a bit of historical context behind why these two operating systems have the business positions they do.

I split this up into two parts. Here’s the first hour, and here’s the second.

Congrats to Microsoft on shipping Windows Vista. We did this debate just for you.

UPDATE: Daily Kos has 700 comments on a debate about whether you are a conservative or a liberal just because of your OS choice.

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  • Russel

    I just want to point out the following:

    Risk = Threat * Severity * Exposure

    The reason why windows is more prone to attacks is simply because they are more exposed to being attacked. As a user, I regularly install free software from internet, do this and that, tweak something, or play with some trial.

    With a Mac, everything is so hard to find, say I wanna get a third party codec for free. I can go on an on with examples of stuff that I need, that I can find for windows for free and not for Mac.

    Securitywise, I think windows have improved a lot. I haven’t had a virus in a loooong time. I do get those spywares, but then I have spybot and adaware for free that takes care of it. Stabilitywise it’s actually much better than linux or solaris, which I have used and got dissappointed.

    User interfacewise, I would say I am not anal or desperate about either MAC OS X or Win Vista. As a user I think both are excellent interface. But that is not an important factor for me when deciding which one to buy.

    I want to be free when choosing the devices I want for my PC, for example I want NVIDIA chipset or may be ATI. And MOST IMPORTANTLY I want to be free enough so that if I decide to upgrade my computer, I can easily do it. Quite honestly, I dont perceive an Apple MAC computer to satisfy that.

    Most important of all, I would be more interested in MAC if I wouldn’t see these sort of “religious fanaticism” among apple users. Here’s a story, I have a professor who hates PC and MS. So one day we’re working on something and apparently he has this shitty P2 laptop half broken. He starts it and apparently it was taking a while to startup and he shakes his head and says oooohhhh microsoft!… I mean come on,… MAC people… if you wanna attract people towards MAC, I dont think bad mouthing Microsoft in Adv would really help. In fact that’s the sign of an inferiority complex and a definite turn-off for people.

  • Russel

    I just want to point out the following:

    Risk = Threat * Severity * Exposure

    The reason why windows is more prone to attacks is simply because they are more exposed to being attacked. As a user, I regularly install free software from internet, do this and that, tweak something, or play with some trial.

    With a Mac, everything is so hard to find, say I wanna get a third party codec for free. I can go on an on with examples of stuff that I need, that I can find for windows for free and not for Mac.

    Securitywise, I think windows have improved a lot. I haven’t had a virus in a loooong time. I do get those spywares, but then I have spybot and adaware for free that takes care of it. Stabilitywise it’s actually much better than linux or solaris, which I have used and got dissappointed.

    User interfacewise, I would say I am not anal or desperate about either MAC OS X or Win Vista. As a user I think both are excellent interface. But that is not an important factor for me when deciding which one to buy.

    I want to be free when choosing the devices I want for my PC, for example I want NVIDIA chipset or may be ATI. And MOST IMPORTANTLY I want to be free enough so that if I decide to upgrade my computer, I can easily do it. Quite honestly, I dont perceive an Apple MAC computer to satisfy that.

    Most important of all, I would be more interested in MAC if I wouldn’t see these sort of “religious fanaticism” among apple users. Here’s a story, I have a professor who hates PC and MS. So one day we’re working on something and apparently he has this shitty P2 laptop half broken. He starts it and apparently it was taking a while to startup and he shakes his head and says oooohhhh microsoft!… I mean come on,… MAC people… if you wanna attract people towards MAC, I dont think bad mouthing Microsoft in Adv would really help. In fact that’s the sign of an inferiority complex and a definite turn-off for people.

  • http://www.itcomparison.com/ vmguru007

    Hi,

    If you are like me not into watching 4 hours video and like to find the differences between Vista & Mac OSX right away. Then you can easily check http://itcomparison.com/OS/MacvsVista/macvsvista.htm which hit directly to the point.

    Enjoy,
    VMguru007

  • http://www.itcomparison.com vmguru007

    Hi,

    If you are like me not into watching 4 hours video and like to find the differences between Vista & Mac OSX right away. Then you can easily check http://itcomparison.com/OS/MacvsVista/macvsvista.htm which hit directly to the point.

    Enjoy,
    VMguru007

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