More hardware that I have to have: Drobo

April 6, 2007 By

Gizmodo wrote about Drobo. But, I saw it about a week ago and was asked to keep it quiet. Obviously someone else couldn’t keep it under wraps. So, what the heck.

What is it? Well, you know to keep your data on two seperate hard drives, or more, right?

How do you do that? RAID? Yep.

But this thing is RAID made simple. You just slide in a new SATA hard drive (Seagate is gonna love this) and it automatically senses it, and uses it.

Stick in only one drive (it has four slots) and it isn’t happy. It knows your stuff isn’t stored on two drives. So, it’s at risk. It’ll tell you. Warns you with a yellow light that your data isn’t safe.

Slide in a second drive. It takes a few seconds to reconfigure (it does this while live — you can even be copying, or storing, data to the first drive while you slide in a second drive). It will turn both lights green after it makes sure everything has a second drive.

Slide in a third drive. Same thing. It goes yellow while it reconfigures everything to share across three drives.

Take out the first drive. All your data is still there. But the lights go yellow while the drives reconfigure the data and make sure you’re safe.

Take out the second drive, leaving only the third (assuming all are the same size). Now things still work, but the lights don’t go back to green. Yellow all the way.

Along the bottom it tells you how much space is available.

This thing rocks. I can see buying quite a few of these for PodTech.

Won’t be on the market for another month or two. Can’t wait to be able to buy them. Here’s the official Web site.

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  • skeptical

    Simon asks:


    Is this device based on Sun’s ZFS technology? From technical description of the device, it sure *sounds like* ZFS to me.

    Nope. It is a USB storage device that uses a pooled storage model and provides transparent redundancy.

    You don’t have to run some command-line stuff to add new drives to the pool. Just add them, and the unit does all the rest. You don’t have to reboot and wait and wait and wait to use the unit.

  • http://www.beercosoftware.com/ Chris

    http://www.uspto.gov/patft/index.html
    Advanced search on published applications(not approved)
    AN/”Data Robotics”
    AN/”Trusted Data Corporation”
    For the company or assignee name.

    You can search published applications at the USPTO
    Data Robotics/Trusted Data Corporation has no pending applications for any patents.

    You can try http://www.google.com/patents too
    http://www.google.com/patents?q=%22trusted+data+corporation%22&btnG=Search+Patents

    Their TM app is there, but no patents applications pending.
    I have experience with Sun gear, and I don’t see the huge advantage of ZFS in a practical environment. I’m getting rid of our Sun stuff like it was going out of style. Oh wait.

  • http://www.beercosoftware.com/ Chris

    http://www.uspto.gov/patft/index.html
    Advanced search on published applications(not approved)
    AN/”Data Robotics”
    AN/”Trusted Data Corporation”
    For the company or assignee name.

    You can search published applications at the USPTO
    Data Robotics/Trusted Data Corporation has no pending applications for any patents.

    You can try http://www.google.com/patents too
    http://www.google.com/patents?q=%22trusted+data+corporation%22&btnG=Search+Patents

    Their TM app is there, but no patents applications pending.
    I have experience with Sun gear, and I don’t see the huge advantage of ZFS in a practical environment. I’m getting rid of our Sun stuff like it was going out of style. Oh wait.

  • http://www.beercosoftware.com/ Chris

    “Nope. It is a USB storage device that uses a pooled storage model and provides transparent redundancy.”

    Yeah, I like LVM too. ;)

  • http://www.beercosoftware.com/ Chris

    “Nope. It is a USB storage device that uses a pooled storage model and provides transparent redundancy.”

    Yeah, I like LVM too. ;)

  • http://www.psynixis.com/blog Simon Brocklehurst

    Hi skeptical. Many thanks for your reply. Just to clarify… Are you familiar with ZFS? And do you *know* that Drobo isn’t based on ZFS?

    The reason why I ask is that, with reference to your reply:

    o ZFS “uses a pooled storage model” and provides “transparent redundancy”.

    o With ZFS, you “don’t have to reboot and wait and wait and wait” – all operations in ZFS are completed on-line, and usually take a few seconds.

    o And I’m not clear why you mentioned USB and “command line stuff” – to me, those things seem orthogonal to the ZFS question.

    It’s quite an undertaking to develop a new file system. Even a company as large as Apple, that builds its own operation system, didn’t feel able to take this on with the next version of Mac OS X (Leopard). Instead Apple chose to port ZFS from Solaris to Mac OS X.

  • http://www.psynixis.com/blog Simon Brocklehurst

    Hi skeptical. Many thanks for your reply. Just to clarify… Are you familiar with ZFS? And do you *know* that Drobo isn’t based on ZFS?

    The reason why I ask is that, with reference to your reply:

    o ZFS “uses a pooled storage model” and provides “transparent redundancy”.

    o With ZFS, you “don’t have to reboot and wait and wait and wait” – all operations in ZFS are completed on-line, and usually take a few seconds.

    o And I’m not clear why you mentioned USB and “command line stuff” – to me, those things seem orthogonal to the ZFS question.

    It’s quite an undertaking to develop a new file system. Even a company as large as Apple, that builds its own operation system, didn’t feel able to take this on with the next version of Mac OS X (Leopard). Instead Apple chose to port ZFS from Solaris to Mac OS X.

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  • http://www.beercosoftware.com/ Chris

    My last question, couldn’t one simply buy a 4 SATA connector enclosure, put the host FS on LVM instead, have some kind of PNP LVM manager and sell those for $99 a piece?

    You could pull that off with $5 worth of plastic and a 333mhz cpu or even arm for a production cost of $30 and sell it back for $50. The “D-Link” version of your product.(hide the GPL line from >strings, FSF does that first when they test it)

  • http://www.beercosoftware.com/ Chris

    My last question, couldn’t one simply buy a 4 SATA connector enclosure, put the host FS on LVM instead, have some kind of PNP LVM manager and sell those for $99 a piece?

    You could pull that off with $5 worth of plastic and a 333mhz cpu or even arm for a production cost of $30 and sell it back for $50. The “D-Link” version of your product.(hide the GPL line from >strings, FSF does that first when they test it)

  • http://www.beercosoftware.com/ Chris

    Sorry, that may have come off a little harsh. This is a mini-SAN with plug n play LVM type functionality. Why patent a FS? Why not use free Linux, publish the source and make the product cost $149 instead?

    You’re not going to sell many at that price.

    In all fairness, I can imagine that you just filed the patent application and that it may not be in the USPTO application database just yet.

  • http://www.beercosoftware.com/ Chris

    Sorry, that may have come off a little harsh. This is a mini-SAN with plug n play LVM type functionality. Why patent a FS? Why not use free Linux, publish the source and make the product cost $149 instead?

    You’re not going to sell many at that price.

    In all fairness, I can imagine that you just filed the patent application and that it may not be in the USPTO application database just yet.

  • Skeptical

    Simon asks …


    Just to clarify… Are you familiar with ZFS? And do you *know* that Drobo isn’t based on ZFS?

    I am familiar with ZFS to the extent of having seen presentations on ZFS and having read stuff on the the ZFS web site.

    I do know that Drobo isn’t based on ZFS. It is only a block storage device, which is why I mentioned USB.

    It sits below the filesystem, kinda like LVM. There is no file system on Drobo. The UI that is provided autoformats it for NTFS or HFS or you can manually format it for NTFS or other file systems.

    The references to rebooting and waiting and waiting etc were to the Infrant product. Unless they have changed their product and not updated their FAQ, that is what happnes.

  • Skeptical

    Simon asks …


    Just to clarify… Are you familiar with ZFS? And do you *know* that Drobo isn’t based on ZFS?

    I am familiar with ZFS to the extent of having seen presentations on ZFS and having read stuff on the the ZFS web site.

    I do know that Drobo isn’t based on ZFS. It is only a block storage device, which is why I mentioned USB.

    It sits below the filesystem, kinda like LVM. There is no file system on Drobo. The UI that is provided autoformats it for NTFS or HFS or you can manually format it for NTFS or other file systems.

    The references to rebooting and waiting and waiting etc were to the Infrant product. Unless they have changed their product and not updated their FAQ, that is what happnes.

  • http://www.beercosoftware.com/ Chris

    I would honestly get one for the office, but

    A. A backup HDD and a cron script is cheaper

    B. The product is closed source, even though it is a hardware product

    C. The website does not state it’s compatibility with ext2/3 fs.

    Most of the servers in the world that would actually use this are running Linux.

    Skeptical, I take it you work for them. Try to bring the price down and make it LVM compatible if you can. A SAN for home use? Too many people have a media center of some type now for that to be practical. My PS3 is outfitted with a 120 GB drive. More than enough to serve as a backup.

  • http://www.beercosoftware.com/ Chris

    I would honestly get one for the office, but

    A. A backup HDD and a cron script is cheaper

    B. The product is closed source, even though it is a hardware product

    C. The website does not state it’s compatibility with ext2/3 fs.

    Most of the servers in the world that would actually use this are running Linux.

    Skeptical, I take it you work for them. Try to bring the price down and make it LVM compatible if you can. A SAN for home use? Too many people have a media center of some type now for that to be practical. My PS3 is outfitted with a 120 GB drive. More than enough to serve as a backup.

  • Skeptical

    Chris says:


    My last question, couldn’t one simply buy a 4 SATA connector enclosure, put the host FS on LVM instead, have some kind of PNP LVM manager and sell those for $99 a piece?

    You could pull that off with $5 worth of plastic and a 333mhz cpu or even arm for a production cost of $30 and sell it back for $50. The “D-Link” version of your product.(hide the GPL line from >strings, FSF does that first when they test it)

    There are some guys on Sand Hill road who would like to talk to you about that business if you have more than a powerpoint presentation …

    LVM does not have the capabilities that are in the Drobo box.

  • Skeptical

    Chris says:


    My last question, couldn’t one simply buy a 4 SATA connector enclosure, put the host FS on LVM instead, have some kind of PNP LVM manager and sell those for $99 a piece?

    You could pull that off with $5 worth of plastic and a 333mhz cpu or even arm for a production cost of $30 and sell it back for $50. The “D-Link” version of your product.(hide the GPL line from >strings, FSF does that first when they test it)

    There are some guys on Sand Hill road who would like to talk to you about that business if you have more than a powerpoint presentation …

    LVM does not have the capabilities that are in the Drobo box.

  • http://www.beercosoftware.com/ Chris

    “This thing rocks. I can see buying quite a few of these for PodTech.”

    Here is a prime example skeptical. Drobo just lost Scoble, a well funded Silicon Valley A list customer.

    Go to podtech.net and check the http headers:
    You can download http://livehttpheaders.mozdev.org/ for Firefox

    You will see this in the GET response.

    -Server: Apache/2.0.55 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.1.2

    Scoble is using Ubuntu server for Podtech.net, probably because it’s cheaper than Windows or Red Hat Enterpise. Who can blame him. Scoble was using Fedora Core before Ubuntu, I remember they were with Valueweb.com at the same time we used to have coloc at valueweb.

    Valueweb has thousands of customers, a lot of them would love to have mini-sans like this one.

    But just like Scoble, and us, we run ours out of our offices;

    None of us can be Drobo customers, at any cost.
    Because the Drobo system is simply incompatible with our systems.

    If Drobo had LVM compatibility that would open the door to a whole market of people would could ACTUALLY USE drobo. Home users do not need SAN functionality. Small offices and datacenter customers do.

    Making it windows/mac compatible? Why?

    It makes no business sense what so ever.
    Sure I would talk to the people on Sand Hill Rd, if they’d want. We can develop such a system without a major problem in an acceptable time frame. Just have them email us for a quote.

  • http://www.beercosoftware.com/ Chris

    “This thing rocks. I can see buying quite a few of these for PodTech.”

    Here is a prime example skeptical. Drobo just lost Scoble, a well funded Silicon Valley A list customer.

    Go to podtech.net and check the http headers:
    You can download http://livehttpheaders.mozdev.org/ for Firefox

    You will see this in the GET response.

    -Server: Apache/2.0.55 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.1.2

    Scoble is using Ubuntu server for Podtech.net, probably because it’s cheaper than Windows or Red Hat Enterpise. Who can blame him. Scoble was using Fedora Core before Ubuntu, I remember they were with Valueweb.com at the same time we used to have coloc at valueweb.

    Valueweb has thousands of customers, a lot of them would love to have mini-sans like this one.

    But just like Scoble, and us, we run ours out of our offices;

    None of us can be Drobo customers, at any cost.
    Because the Drobo system is simply incompatible with our systems.

    If Drobo had LVM compatibility that would open the door to a whole market of people would could ACTUALLY USE drobo. Home users do not need SAN functionality. Small offices and datacenter customers do.

    Making it windows/mac compatible? Why?

    It makes no business sense what so ever.
    Sure I would talk to the people on Sand Hill Rd, if they’d want. We can develop such a system without a major problem in an acceptable time frame. Just have them email us for a quote.

  • http://blog.macb.net macbeach

    Does it work with Linux?

    (I had to ask)

    But seriously, I think non-denominational solutions like this are going to give Windows Home Server a run for the money. A network interface would be nice though.

  • http://macbeach.blogspot.com macbeach

    Does it work with Linux?

    (I had to ask)

    But seriously, I think non-denominational solutions like this are going to give Windows Home Server a run for the money. A network interface would be nice though.

  • http://www.beercosoftware.com/ Chris

    “This thing rocks. I can see buying quite a few of these for PodTech.”
    #
    Here is a prime example skeptical. Drobo just lost Scoble, a well funded Silicon Valley A list customer.
    #
    Go to podtech.net and check the http headers:
    You can download http://livehttpheaders.mozdev.org/ for Firefox
    #
    You will see this in the GET response.
    #
    -Server: Apache/2.0.55 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.1.2
    #
    Scoble is using Ubuntu server for Podtech.net, probably because it’s cheaper than Windows or Red Hat Enterpise. Who can blame him. Scoble was using Fedora Core before Ubuntu, I remember they were with Valueweb.com at the same time we used to have coloc at valueweb.
    #
    Valueweb has thousands of customers, a lot of them would love to have mini-sans like this one.
    #
    But just like Scoble, and us, we run ours out of our offices;
    #
    None of us can be Drobo customers, at any cost.
    Because the Drobo system is simply incompatible with our systems.

    If Drobo had LVM compatibility that would open the door to a whole market of people would could ACTUALLY USE drobo. Home users do not need SAN functionality. Small offices and datacenter customers do.
    #
    Making it windows/mac compatible? Why?
    #
    It makes no business sense what so ever.
    Sure I would talk to the people on Sand Hill Rd, if they’d want. We can develop such a system without a major problem in an acceptable time frame. Just have them email us for a quote.

  • http://www.beercosoftware.com/ Chris

    “This thing rocks. I can see buying quite a few of these for PodTech.”
    #
    Here is a prime example skeptical. Drobo just lost Scoble, a well funded Silicon Valley A list customer.
    #
    Go to podtech.net and check the http headers:
    You can download http://livehttpheaders.mozdev.org/ for Firefox
    #
    You will see this in the GET response.
    #
    -Server: Apache/2.0.55 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.1.2
    #
    Scoble is using Ubuntu server for Podtech.net, probably because it’s cheaper than Windows or Red Hat Enterpise. Who can blame him. Scoble was using Fedora Core before Ubuntu, I remember they were with Valueweb.com at the same time we used to have coloc at valueweb.
    #
    Valueweb has thousands of customers, a lot of them would love to have mini-sans like this one.
    #
    But just like Scoble, and us, we run ours out of our offices;
    #
    None of us can be Drobo customers, at any cost.
    Because the Drobo system is simply incompatible with our systems.

    If Drobo had LVM compatibility that would open the door to a whole market of people would could ACTUALLY USE drobo. Home users do not need SAN functionality. Small offices and datacenter customers do.
    #
    Making it windows/mac compatible? Why?
    #
    It makes no business sense what so ever.
    Sure I would talk to the people on Sand Hill Rd, if they’d want. We can develop such a system without a major problem in an acceptable time frame. Just have them email us for a quote.

  • Skeptical


    Does it work with Linux?

    Well, it’s just a block device … however, it seems that Data Robotics does not warrant that it works as yet …

  • Skeptical


    Does it work with Linux?

    Well, it’s just a block device … however, it seems that Data Robotics does not warrant that it works as yet …

  • http://www.beercosoftware.com/ Chris

    “This thing rocks. I can see buying quite a few of these for PodTech.”

    He couldn’t buy any for podtech.net if he wanted to.

    Go to podtech.net and check the http headers:
    You can download http://livehttpheaders.mozdev.org/ for Firefox

    You will see this in the GET response.

    -Server: Apache/2.0.55 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.1.2

    Scoble is using Ubuntu server for Podtech.net, probably because it’s cheaper than Windows or Red Hat Enterpise. Who can blame him. Scoble was using Fedora Core before Ubuntu, I remember they were with Valueweb.com at the same time we used to have coloc at valueweb.

  • http://www.beercosoftware.com/ Chris

    “This thing rocks. I can see buying quite a few of these for PodTech.”

    He couldn’t buy any for podtech.net if he wanted to.

    Go to podtech.net and check the http headers:
    You can download http://livehttpheaders.mozdev.org/ for Firefox

    You will see this in the GET response.

    -Server: Apache/2.0.55 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.1.2

    Scoble is using Ubuntu server for Podtech.net, probably because it’s cheaper than Windows or Red Hat Enterpise. Who can blame him. Scoble was using Fedora Core before Ubuntu, I remember they were with Valueweb.com at the same time we used to have coloc at valueweb.

  • http://scobleizer.com/ Robert Scoble

    Chris: that’s on our servers. That’s not where I want to use Drobo. We have quite a few video editing systems being built. I need TONS of reliable storage. Drobo is going to fit the bill just fine for that. All our desktops are either Windows or Macs.

  • http://www.beercosoftware.com/ Chris

    “This thing rocks. I can see buying quite a few of these for PodTech.”

    This is also why executives make extremely bad technology buyers. They’ll make statements based on wishful thinking, then have to back them up with actual money later.

  • http://scobleizer.com/ Robert Scoble

    Chris: that’s on our servers. That’s not where I want to use Drobo. We have quite a few video editing systems being built. I need TONS of reliable storage. Drobo is going to fit the bill just fine for that. All our desktops are either Windows or Macs.

  • http://www.beercosoftware.com/ Chris

    “This thing rocks. I can see buying quite a few of these for PodTech.”

    This is also why executives make extremely bad technology buyers. They’ll make statements based on wishful thinking, then have to back them up with actual money later.

  • http://www.beercosoftware.com/ Chris

    “All our desktops are either Windows or Macs.”

    Ah, I see. Normally you don’t need a SAN or automatic backup in that type of environment though.

  • http://www.beercosoftware.com/ Chris

    “All our desktops are either Windows or Macs.”

    Ah, I see. Normally you don’t need a SAN or automatic backup in that type of environment though.

  • http://scobleizer.com/ Robert Scoble

    Chris: unlike you I’ve actually seen a Drobo up close and personal. And it solves a major problem for me on my desktops. What happens if one of those hard drives I have all my video on dies? I lose work and time and money. What happens if a drive dies in a Drobo? Nothing.

  • http://scobleizer.com/ Robert Scoble

    Chris: unlike you I’ve actually seen a Drobo up close and personal. And it solves a major problem for me on my desktops. What happens if one of those hard drives I have all my video on dies? I lose work and time and money. What happens if a drive dies in a Drobo? Nothing.

  • http://www.beercosoftware.com/ Chris

    Most of the time companies such as yours lease or rent from Apple, HP ect…. because the depreciation turnover on the machines is too big of an expense.

    That being said leased equipment is used for maybe 1-2 years tops, and usually is too new to have that type of failure.

    You could buy 20 desktop mini-SANs for insurance, but it’s probably not worth it. The video is going to wind up on your Ubuntu server anyway, and that is most likely backed up daily.

    I have a feeling you are in a position where you can afford to be nice and keep this company going with a bulk purchase, and there’s nothing wrong with that.

  • http://www.beercosoftware.com/ Chris

    Most of the time companies such as yours lease or rent from Apple, HP ect…. because the depreciation turnover on the machines is too big of an expense.

    That being said leased equipment is used for maybe 1-2 years tops, and usually is too new to have that type of failure.

    You could buy 20 desktop mini-SANs for insurance, but it’s probably not worth it. The video is going to wind up on your Ubuntu server anyway, and that is most likely backed up daily.

    I have a feeling you are in a position where you can afford to be nice and keep this company going with a bulk purchase, and there’s nothing wrong with that.

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  • james

    It only connects via USB?

    Is that true?

    Thats pretty dang slow.

  • james

    It only connects via USB?

    Is that true?

    Thats pretty dang slow.

  • http://www.psynixis.com/blog Simon Brocklehurst

    @33. Thanks for that Skeptical. That was really helpful.

    @41. Robert, presumably you’re not thinking of using these for HD video editing? Is USB fast enough for that? I’d have thought mirrored pairs of RAID 0′ed (2,3 or 4 disks striped) eSATA drive cages would have been the obvious low-cost option for reliable (redundant) , high-performance video editing?

    eSATA is blazingly fast for data transfers if you have striped disks at the other end of the wire (you need striped disks, otherwise the write-speed of the disk is limiting) – easily good enough for moving HD video around. USB 2, on the other hand, is usually dog slow for data transfers – the wire protocol is usually limiting, even with just a single drive attached.

  • http://www.psynixis.com/blog Simon Brocklehurst

    @33. Thanks for that Skeptical. That was really helpful.

    @41. Robert, presumably you’re not thinking of using these for HD video editing? Is USB fast enough for that? I’d have thought mirrored pairs of RAID 0′ed (2,3 or 4 disks striped) eSATA drive cages would have been the obvious low-cost option for reliable (redundant) , high-performance video editing?

    eSATA is blazingly fast for data transfers if you have striped disks at the other end of the wire (you need striped disks, otherwise the write-speed of the disk is limiting) – easily good enough for moving HD video around. USB 2, on the other hand, is usually dog slow for data transfers – the wire protocol is usually limiting, even with just a single drive attached.

  • Eddie K

    I was a Beta tester for this device and it works really well as DAS.
    Windows automatically recognises the unit and essentially you can just use it as another drive from within Windows.

    I successfully used this drive (shared on my network) to stream a variety of Media files around the place.

    It’s also a very resilient backup device. I currently have 4 300gb drives in it and it’s been working perfectly for me.

    Price aside, this device is recommended.

  • Eddie K

    I was a Beta tester for this device and it works really well as DAS.
    Windows automatically recognises the unit and essentially you can just use it as another drive from within Windows.

    I successfully used this drive (shared on my network) to stream a variety of Media files around the place.

    It’s also a very resilient backup device. I currently have 4 300gb drives in it and it’s been working perfectly for me.

    Price aside, this device is recommended.

  • avraider

    Unraid seems more flexible and cheaper….

    http://www.lime-technology.com/

  • avraider

    Unraid seems more flexible and cheaper….

    http://www.lime-technology.com/

  • http://www.beercosoftware.com/ Chris

    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2807658&CatId=2427

    239.99

    That’s a third of the price, and you have OSX/XP compatibility and a firewire-800 interface. It’s not even on sale.

    You could pick them up for under 200.
    Don’t get me wrong, you absolutely don’t even need this for lease machines, but if you were going to any way.

  • http://www.beercosoftware.com/ Chris

    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2807658&CatId=2427

    239.99

    That’s a third of the price, and you have OSX/XP compatibility and a firewire-800 interface. It’s not even on sale.

    You could pick them up for under 200.
    Don’t get me wrong, you absolutely don’t even need this for lease machines, but if you were going to any way.

  • -gary

    Anyone that thinks that you don’t need reliable desktop storage for projects because drives don’t fail, or that large companies lease their desktop machines and get them replaced every 1-2 years is just not living in the real world.

    In the real world, the one that I live in, drives fail all the time and MTBF numbers mean nothing when a drive drops dead right in front of your eyes. Its MTBF was actually two weeks, not 50,000 hours. Oops, they’ll have to adjust that average failure rate down by .000001% now. That might not affect their product line much, but to me that was a 100% failure. Again, if you don’t think it happens, then you have never, and I stress never, worked in an IT support department in your life. It happens all the time.

    This is why you need resilient desktop workspace. We’re not talking about long-term SAN storage or backed up web sites. We’re talking about all of the raw footage and project files that you are working on now. RAID 0 is great and I use it for my primary drive on this machine, but it only increases your chances of drive failure. SAN’s are a wonderful resilient NETWORK storage technology, but it is virutaly useless for desktop editing, even on gig ehternet.

    As for my own thoughts on the product, it’s niffty for home storage, but without eSATA or at the very least FW 800, it has no place on a professional editing station.

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