Justin Kestelyn (he is Editor in Chief of Oracle’s Technology Network) lays out a decent argument that Oracle isn’t getting any blogging respect.
He’s got a point, although I am subscribed to Oracle’s blogs for my link blog, which is how I saw this post.
So, why doesn’t Oracle get any respect? I can’t remember when they did what JD did — link out to people and join the conversation. I can’t remember getting an invite to any Oracle blogging event (Microsoft, Sun, SAP, Salesforce.com, and Adobe are all companies who’ve invited a variety of bloggers over for a meet — it’s no wonder to me why they get more blog coverage).
I’d love to come over to Oracle with my video camera and learn about its business.
Check your email
Check your email
http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/Oracle-Linux-adopters-labelled-idiots-/0,130061733,339274640,00.htm
Maybe this is why?
Why doesn’t Oracle make their own Linux?
I am with RedHat supporters here. That’s just lame. No wonder they don’t get respect.
I can’t say supporting other people’s software for cheaper is a bad idea, because that’s what we do too. But Oracle can afford to build their own distro and not simply support CentOS, which RH put all the time into. We can’t. I would if we could afford it though.
Look at this rant. I mean, the guy has no class.
(joke)
http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/Oracle-Linux-adopters-labelled-idiots-/0,130061733,339274640,00.htm
Maybe this is why?
Why doesn’t Oracle make their own Linux?
I am with RedHat supporters here. That’s just lame. No wonder they don’t get respect.
I can’t say supporting other people’s software for cheaper is a bad idea, because that’s what we do too. But Oracle can afford to build their own distro and not simply support CentOS, which RH put all the time into. We can’t. I would if we could afford it though.
Look at this rant. I mean, the guy has no class.
(joke)
Respect? I know the easiest way to get some…
Tell oracle to get a certain software company to announce that it is directly competing with Oracle and ‘going after’ it.
Respect? I know the easiest way to get some…
Tell oracle to get a certain software company to announce that it is directly competing with Oracle and ‘going after’ it.
You can come over to TUCON next week and learn about TIBCO’s business, if you’d like to.
http://tucon.tibco.com/
You can come over to TUCON next week and learn about TIBCO’s business, if you’d like to.
http://tucon.tibco.com/
@4
http://www.tibco.com/solutions/bpm/iprocess_suite.jsp
“We are able to provide this comprehensive functionality by bringing together our 15 years of experience, the input of our 900 customers,”
At this point you have 900 customers
http://www.tibco.com/
“With over 3,000 customers, TIBCO has given leading organizations around the world better awareness and agility”
Now suddenly Tibco has 3,000 customers. Over 3 times as many and for the cost of visiting a different web page on the same site.
Hmmmmm……
If I was a potential customer, I would be weary at that point.
At any rate, you should probably join ITAA/ITAC if you want to get those kinds of customers more than doing a show for Scoble. They buy ANYTHING, but Linux.
sob…. cry…. sob…
puts hanki back in pocket.
@4
http://www.tibco.com/solutions/bpm/iprocess_suite.jsp
“We are able to provide this comprehensive functionality by bringing together our 15 years of experience, the input of our 900 customers,”
At this point you have 900 customers
http://www.tibco.com/
“With over 3,000 customers, TIBCO has given leading organizations around the world better awareness and agility”
Now suddenly Tibco has 3,000 customers. Over 3 times as many and for the cost of visiting a different web page on the same site.
Hmmmmm……
If I was a potential customer, I would be weary at that point.
At any rate, you should probably join ITAA/ITAC if you want to get those kinds of customers more than doing a show for Scoble. They buy ANYTHING, but Linux.
sob…. cry…. sob…
puts hanki back in pocket.
http://www.tibco.com/solutions/bpm/customers.jsp
“TIBCO has over 2400 customers world-wide”
I’m still reading and now it’s 2400, 1500 of which are idle. Maybe some clarification would be in order. At any rate, good luck.
I think Scoble wants to court Oracle as a revenue stream, and that this was actually the intention of the request.
Me to Oracle, you have nothing to lose buddy, put Scoble on the payroll!
http://www.tibco.com/solutions/bpm/customers.jsp
“TIBCO has over 2400 customers world-wide”
I’m still reading and now it’s 2400, 1500 of which are idle. Maybe some clarification would be in order. At any rate, good luck.
I think Scoble wants to court Oracle as a revenue stream, and that this was actually the intention of the request.
Me to Oracle, you have nothing to lose buddy, put Scoble on the payroll!
Chris: no, I genuinely just want to visit every tech company in the industry. You might have missed I’ve done more interviews than any other tech videoshow online. From all sorts of companies that don’t pay us and never will.
Chris: no, I genuinely just want to visit every tech company in the industry. You might have missed I’ve done more interviews than any other tech videoshow online. From all sorts of companies that don’t pay us and never will.
Daniel: I’m already booked next week, sorry. But I’d love to come and do an interview on Tibco too.
Daniel: I’m already booked next week, sorry. But I’d love to come and do an interview on Tibco too.
Why not IBM and Red Hat then?
Why not drop by the summit?
You can catch IBM at Linux world and also at FSF meetings and at many other places.
I realize you can’t do every company, but what about the really important ones. I was sure it was because IBM would never fund your show, nor would red hat. I may have been wrong. Sorry.
Why not IBM and Red Hat then?
Why not drop by the summit?
You can catch IBM at Linux world and also at FSF meetings and at many other places.
I realize you can’t do every company, but what about the really important ones. I was sure it was because IBM would never fund your show, nor would red hat. I may have been wrong. Sorry.
I’m shocked, shocked that a PR arm of Oracle isn’t getting respect, even after they relabeled it as “blogging”
I’m shocked, shocked that a PR arm of Oracle isn’t getting respect, even after they relabeled it as “blogging”
@7 “Chris: no, I genuinely just want to visit every tech company in the industry.”
Which industry would that be? As I’m sure you know, there are A LOT of industries, and A LOT of tech companies that serve those respective industries.
@7 “Chris: no, I genuinely just want to visit every tech company in the industry.”
Which industry would that be? As I’m sure you know, there are A LOT of industries, and A LOT of tech companies that serve those respective industries.
Chris: I have plans to get to IBM but their PR team is really a pain in the ass to deal with. RedHat? I’d love it. I’m more likely to get to Ubuntu, though.
LayZ: I’m interested in a lot of different industries and a lot of different things.
Chris: I have plans to get to IBM but their PR team is really a pain in the ass to deal with. RedHat? I’d love it. I’m more likely to get to Ubuntu, though.
LayZ: I’m interested in a lot of different industries and a lot of different things.
Cannonical is in the UK.
Red Hat is in San Diego
http://www.redhat.com/promo/summit/
I guarantee you would be able to talk to them at any tech conference. I was able to and I’m not even a reporter. Then of course I worked on one of their accounts, but they didn’t know that when I talked to them.
I agree that if you try to do it officially, you probably won’t get anywhere with IBM.
If you do get an interview, please ask about Metronome.
Cannonical is in the UK.
Red Hat is in San Diego
http://www.redhat.com/promo/summit/
I guarantee you would be able to talk to them at any tech conference. I was able to and I’m not even a reporter. Then of course I worked on one of their accounts, but they didn’t know that when I talked to them.
I agree that if you try to do it officially, you probably won’t get anywhere with IBM.
If you do get an interview, please ask about Metronome.
Given that Oracle was looking for a marketer to act as the executive blog writer as recently as early this year, I’d say that it isn’t a big surprise that you’re not getting invitations to run around Oracle Pkwy with your cam.
Then again, their cafeterias are open to the public so you could just hang out there and see what happens, tee hee. Bonus points if you get a shot of Larry getting into his Bentley.
Given that Oracle was looking for a marketer to act as the executive blog writer as recently as early this year, I’d say that it isn’t a big surprise that you’re not getting invitations to run around Oracle Pkwy with your cam.
Then again, their cafeterias are open to the public so you could just hang out there and see what happens, tee hee. Bonus points if you get a shot of Larry getting into his Bentley.
http://www.it-eye.nl/weblog/2007/04/27/oracle-blogging-respect-web-20-and-unbreakable-linux/
http://www.it-eye.nl/weblog/2007/04/27/oracle-blogging-respect-web-20-and-unbreakable-linux/
I would really like to see you interview in Oracle. I hope it comes off.
I would really like to see you interview in Oracle. I hope it comes off.
Robert, who are you working with at IBM? Maybe I can help.
Robert, who are you working with at IBM? Maybe I can help.
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Maybe they are getting ignored because they are a big company who should know how to properly title their webpages. If they can’t be bothered to properly title their articles for me to bookamrk them. Why should I bother reading what they have to say?
Maybe they are getting ignored because they are a big company who should know how to properly title their webpages. If they can’t be bothered to properly title their articles for me to bookamrk them. Why should I bother reading what they have to say?
Hey Scoble,
Oracle is in a position to help thousands of AppForge developers, which would get them a lot of blogging love. Check out the story here:
http://blog.1530technologies.com/2007/04/oracle_here_is_.html
Hey Scoble,
Oracle is in a position to help thousands of AppForge developers, which would get them a lot of blogging love. Check out the story here:
http://blog.1530technologies.com/2007/04/oracle_here_is_.html
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How about they spend less time worrying about blogging and more time securing their database software?
How about they spend less time worrying about blogging and more time securing their database software?
Hi Robert,
We’d love to have you at the next Lunch 2.0 that’s coming up on May 23rd (LinkedIn, Mountain View).
More details here: http://tinyurl.com/2l56y9.
Hi Robert,
We’d love to have you at the next Lunch 2.0 that’s coming up on May 23rd (LinkedIn, Mountain View).
More details here: http://tinyurl.com/2l56y9.
Looks like the tinyurl I provided earlier is broken.
Check out the Lunch 2.0 invite here: http://www.lunch20.com/2007/04/27/lunch-20-linkedin/, and our upcoming invite here: http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/184799/.
Looks like the tinyurl I provided earlier is broken.
Check out the Lunch 2.0 invite here: http://www.lunch20.com/2007/04/27/lunch-20-linkedin/, and our upcoming invite here: http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/184799/.
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Blogtipping Day: Wandering Lonely as a Cloud onto the Oracle Blog Network
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