MSFT to YHOO?

Yahoo is up on rumors that Microsoft is wanting to buy it. Something to ponder as I travel to Mexico with Maryam today. Of course that is getting covered from all angles on TechMeme. I’m speaking at the Forbes Online Brand Management forum. I’m not being paid (they paid my travel expenses, but Maryam’s paying her own way down there). No link blogging or regular blogging until Tuesday (I’m going to a BEA thing on Tuesday in Atlanta, though, so not even sure I’ll be back until Thursday next week — too much traveling in my life).

UPDATE: it’s funny that Microsoft could end up paying a LOT more for Flickr and Del.icio.us than it would have paid if they had bought those when I told Gates to buy those. Sigh.

88 thoughts on “MSFT to YHOO?

  1. teknologist: actually no one else had proposed the strategy I had proposed. I got lengthy replies from several executives. So, yeah, I’m an arrogggaannntttt bbbbbaaahhhhssssttttaaaarrrrrdddd, but where was your plan back in 2003?

    Obviously no one did a good enough sales job to Gates and Co, have they? So, I failed swinging at the bat. Not many other people even took a swing.

  2. >Robert, why do you do so many events for free?

    Because I like meeting people and it brings me great joy to do it. PodTech does have a policy against taking speaking fees unless management approves first, though.

    I’m not sure how long I’ll be in Atlanta or when I’ll be free yet. I’m only there a short time (about 24 hours). I’ll blog next week when I figure that out.

  3. >Robert, why do you do so many events for free?

    Because I like meeting people and it brings me great joy to do it. PodTech does have a policy against taking speaking fees unless management approves first, though.

    I’m not sure how long I’ll be in Atlanta or when I’ll be free yet. I’m only there a short time (about 24 hours). I’ll blog next week when I figure that out.

  4. “when I told Gates to buy those”

    Get over YOURSELF. In what dillusional place do you live? I’m sure Gates has parrots saying “buy this” and “buy that” for dozens of companies EVERYDAY. Why would the recommendation of a simple blogger stand out?

    Perhaps you failed and didnt SELL the idea well enough?

  5. “when I told Gates to buy those”

    Get over YOURSELF. In what dillusional place do you live? I’m sure Gates has parrots saying “buy this” and “buy that” for dozens of companies EVERYDAY. Why would the recommendation of a simple blogger stand out?

    Perhaps you failed and didnt SELL the idea well enough?

  6. @13, to stop using Yahoo if MSFT bought it would be a strange decision but understandable nonetheless. But to go away from Microsoft in favor of Google on principle… Insanity comes to mind. Google is to this generation of computing to what Microsoft was to the previous generation of computing. They are moral equivalents.

  7. @13, to stop using Yahoo if MSFT bought it would be a strange decision but understandable nonetheless. But to go away from Microsoft in favor of Google on principle… Insanity comes to mind. Google is to this generation of computing to what Microsoft was to the previous generation of computing. They are moral equivalents.

  8. I would stop using Yahoo if MSFT bought it. Which is a shame. I still prefer my.yahoo.com to the personalized Google. But this deal, in terms of my usage, would instantly help GOOG.

    Somebody said that Yahoo would benefit from such an effort and were a good stock buy again… Who said that?

  9. I would stop using Yahoo if MSFT bought it. Which is a shame. I still prefer my.yahoo.com to the personalized Google. But this deal, in terms of my usage, would instantly help GOOG.

    Somebody said that Yahoo would benefit from such an effort and were a good stock buy again… Who said that?

  10. I am not looking forward to seeing Microsoft spent the next half-decade trying to port the software from their new acquisitions to .Net when they should be trying to make money from them – NIH writ large.

  11. I am not looking forward to seeing Microsoft spent the next half-decade trying to port the software from their new acquisitions to .Net when they should be trying to make money from them – NIH writ large.

  12. “UPDATE: it’s funny that Microsoft could end up paying a LOT more for Flickr and Del.icio.us than it would have paid if they had bought those when I told Gates to buy those. Sigh.”

    Flickr and Del.icio.us only became big because they were bought by any larger company. Microsoft could have purchased any competing service and boosted it that last mile. It could have been digg or any other photo site. Sites like that never go all the way until they make that final aquisition.

    In that sense del.icio.us and flickr are common and generic.

    As for the merger or aquisition. I have one word.
    ANTITRUST, and one url http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/cases/ms_index.htm

    I hope the new Democratic govt can finally finish them off this time should a Democrat be elected in the Executive branch.

    I hope they get crippled and done in for good the way it should have went down 10 long years ago with Janet Reno. Yahoo+MSFT may push it over the edge.

  13. “UPDATE: it’s funny that Microsoft could end up paying a LOT more for Flickr and Del.icio.us than it would have paid if they had bought those when I told Gates to buy those. Sigh.”

    Flickr and Del.icio.us only became big because they were bought by any larger company. Microsoft could have purchased any competing service and boosted it that last mile. It could have been digg or any other photo site. Sites like that never go all the way until they make that final aquisition.

    In that sense del.icio.us and flickr are common and generic.

    As for the merger or aquisition. I have one word.
    ANTITRUST, and one url http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/cases/ms_index.htm

    I hope the new Democratic govt can finally finish them off this time should a Democrat be elected in the Executive branch.

    I hope they get crippled and done in for good the way it should have went down 10 long years ago with Janet Reno. Yahoo+MSFT may push it over the edge.

  14. 10 years ago I pinged up through the management chain that MS should buy ICQ. This was two years before AOL picked them up. I am not saying I was right (I don’t hear much about ICQ any more) but you can’t deny that momentum they had at the time and the development saving that could have been realized over developing Messenger and all of it’s iterations. Not to mention the very well established user base ICQ had at the time.

    Chris

  15. 10 years ago I pinged up through the management chain that MS should buy ICQ. This was two years before AOL picked them up. I am not saying I was right (I don’t hear much about ICQ any more) but you can’t deny that momentum they had at the time and the development saving that could have been realized over developing Messenger and all of it’s iterations. Not to mention the very well established user base ICQ had at the time.

    Chris

  16. This is ironic.

    I’d been trying for ages to ditch my yahoo email for hotmail so that I can put my passport.net services under one umbrella. But once you get a hotmail account, you can’t *then* transfer your passport credentials. Something they don’t tell you when you sign up for hotmail.

    In the meantime, I’ve been using the yahoo mail beta, and discovered that it’s better than hotmail. Way better.

  17. This is ironic.

    I’d been trying for ages to ditch my yahoo email for hotmail so that I can put my passport.net services under one umbrella. But once you get a hotmail account, you can’t *then* transfer your passport credentials. Something they don’t tell you when you sign up for hotmail.

    In the meantime, I’ve been using the yahoo mail beta, and discovered that it’s better than hotmail. Way better.

  18. How long are you in Atlanta? I’d be happy to buy you and Maryam lunch/dinner and talk baby stuff since my wife is expecting on the 22nd of this month.

  19. How long are you in Atlanta? I’d be happy to buy you and Maryam lunch/dinner and talk baby stuff since my wife is expecting on the 22nd of this month.

  20. @5:

    I dropped flickr when Yahoo got it and introduced limits designed to force people into an annual fee. Yahoo is like cable TV, first they introduce ads to pay for the service, then they ask you to pay for the service to get rid of the ads, then they introduce the ads to the paid service, and the service never gets better unless someone comes along to challenge them (like Google). Google photo gives me a gig to use as I please, no upload limits, no funny name changing gimmicks, and more and more hooks into other services. Why would I want to use Flicker? (Former user of Yahooo-just about everything).

  21. @5:

    I dropped flickr when Yahoo got it and introduced limits designed to force people into an annual fee. Yahoo is like cable TV, first they introduce ads to pay for the service, then they ask you to pay for the service to get rid of the ads, then they introduce the ads to the paid service, and the service never gets better unless someone comes along to challenge them (like Google). Google photo gives me a gig to use as I please, no upload limits, no funny name changing gimmicks, and more and more hooks into other services. Why would I want to use Flicker? (Former user of Yahooo-just about everything).

  22. I’m sure Yahoo! wouldn’t lose too many customers if MS bought it. There is no way I would drop my Flickr account. It’s far far too good :)

    I’m even wondering if MS could buy Yahoo! Would there not be a good chance it would be an Anti-Trust issue?

  23. I’m sure Yahoo! wouldn’t lose too many customers if MS bought it. There is no way I would drop my Flickr account. It’s far far too good :)

    I’m even wondering if MS could buy Yahoo! Would there not be a good chance it would be an Anti-Trust issue?

  24. Well it will certainly save me a lot of trouble instead of venting my spleen on the companies individually I can just pick on Yahsoft, or will it me Microhoo?

    Both are companies that got too comfortable with their leadership positions and forgot (I think permanently) how to look at their products from a customer perspective. It is for this reason primarily that companies seek to merge rather than split into smaller pieces (which is better for everyone except the pieces that aren’t doing well in the marketplace). A merger will give both companies excuses to have sub-par results for several years while keeping stockholders mesmerized waiting for synergies to develop. Since I don’t own stock in either company I say Go for It!, Shoot the Moon!, Jump the Shark!, etc.

  25. Well it will certainly save me a lot of trouble instead of venting my spleen on the companies individually I can just pick on Yahsoft, or will it me Microhoo?

    Both are companies that got too comfortable with their leadership positions and forgot (I think permanently) how to look at their products from a customer perspective. It is for this reason primarily that companies seek to merge rather than split into smaller pieces (which is better for everyone except the pieces that aren’t doing well in the marketplace). A merger will give both companies excuses to have sub-par results for several years while keeping stockholders mesmerized waiting for synergies to develop. Since I don’t own stock in either company I say Go for It!, Shoot the Moon!, Jump the Shark!, etc.

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  27. Uh… I don’t think MS is interested in purchasing Flickr and Del.icio.us for the reported pricetag. They’re interested in purchasing Yahoo! And I’m very skeptical that the reason they are interested involves Flickr or Del.icio.us in any way.

  28. Uh… I don’t think MS is interested in purchasing Flickr and Del.icio.us for the reported pricetag. They’re interested in purchasing Yahoo! And I’m very skeptical that the reason they are interested involves Flickr or Del.icio.us in any way.

  29. Now we’ll be able to go to msn.com or live.com or yahoo.com or alltheweb.com or altavista.com for search.
    There could be a master search page for the Microhoo search properties. :)

    Munir: Scoble works because he does things which are against the norm. When his stuff starts becoming the norm, he moves on to newer ones. But when something doesn’t become the norm, he latches on to it (like his gates story).

  30. Now we’ll be able to go to msn.com or live.com or yahoo.com or alltheweb.com or altavista.com for search.
    There could be a master search page for the Microhoo search properties. :)

    Munir: Scoble works because he does things which are against the norm. When his stuff starts becoming the norm, he moves on to newer ones. But when something doesn’t become the norm, he latches on to it (like his gates story).

  31. I agree with you. You’re much smarter than Gates. If he only listened to you he’d be much more successful. Too bad for him.

  32. I agree with you. You’re much smarter than Gates. If he only listened to you he’d be much more successful. Too bad for him.

  33. Billg: Ya know there a lot of people out there who don’t work in the tech industry or spend there days debating the evil of msft or which company is more innovative. A LOT more people. I’m amazed how technophiles feel THEY are the public.

  34. Billg: Ya know there a lot of people out there who don’t work in the tech industry or spend there days debating the evil of msft or which company is more innovative. A LOT more people. I’m amazed how technophiles feel THEY are the public.

  35. I would not stop using Yahoo if MS bought it. I would love it even more. Especially with this new Silverlight stuff.

    I just hope MS stock continues up!!!!

  36. I would not stop using Yahoo if MS bought it. I would love it even more. Especially with this new Silverlight stuff.

    I just hope MS stock continues up!!!!

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