Stuff you won’t see on American TV

O@ Prasenjeet

Only when you combine the 14 different spellings.

That’s like combining Gareth, Garath and Garth

Ignoring the “Pallywood” connection is simply ignoring the fact that there are people in the Middle East who actually DO want Americans to be killed and are coming across the borders into Iraq to do just that – to die for Islam. To ignore that fact simply amazes me.

Robert: I believe you when you say that your wife experienced bombings inside Iran, where the bombs were “American”; however, there’s a huge difference between the US bombing Iran and weapons being made by American companies being used by other nation’s military – please tell us when and where US Military Aircraft bombed Iran; there doesn’t seem to be ANY info on the US attacking and bombing Iran – ever.

@Gareth: That is the most stupid thing I’ve heard all day. James, Jack and Charlie don’t have spelling variations. So people get exactly what they want when naming the kid. If there was a law stating ‘Mohammed’ had to be spelled the same, that article makes it look like they would all have named their children ‘Mohammed’ and it would be at #2. Nice try though.

@ericdrum

There are tons of spelling variations. Gareth is spelt in 3 ways as above

Ian, Iain and Ioan

Sean, Shaun, Seóan, and Shawn

etc

The different spellings of Mohammed are as distinct as the above depending on what part of the world they come from. ‘ed’ at the end tends to be from non-Arab Muslim countries whereas ‘ad’ at the end tends to be from Arabic countries

This is a contrived article relying on twisted stats.

@ ericdrum you’re so nearly right – Jimmy – John – Charles? They dilute the statistics the other way. You didn’t hear it either you read it. So you should probably be a bit more respectful when bandying about allegations of stupidity.

“Al” writes: “Try to look at the bigger picture – Militant Islam hasn’t liked us for many years. Is it Bush? No, it’s our culture. And, it’s our freedom they don’t like”

Every time someone complains about American TV, I’m reminded of a piece I saw on HBO that showed bits of programming from around the world. The most ridiculous thing I saw was video of a transvestite taking a shit, courtesy of a TV show in Sweden.

America ain’t got nothing on that “culture”.

Out of all of the blogs I follow, I think this is the only one where Paris Hilton is ever mentioned.

@Gareth

What’s the difference between non-Arab militant Muslims and Arab militant Muslims?

SOme commenters here are in denial.

The number of dead Iraqis after our invasion and during our occupation is incedibly high due to sectarian violence, yes, but also from american fire on innocents such as in the video.

The HUGE number of IRaqis leaving Iraq (from 2 to 4 million) is something to consider.

All information that shows Americans in a bad light in Iraq is not some anti US propaganda as some here think.

We are occupying Iraq and that makes us their enemy, occupiers never get on the good side.See the Battle of algiers.

Face it we fkscked up big time in this travesty.

Not to mention our veterans that will be screwed from here on out.

@20. So we turn and run? Then what happens? You aren’t of the belief that things will normalize, are you? I don’t think anyone disputes the fact that ultimately getting out is the right thing to do. What I’ve not seen is an accurate assessment of what the consequences will be. Cambodia, anyone?

@34 “The number of dead Iraqis after our invasion and during our occupation is incedibly high due to sectarian violence, yes, but also from american fire on innocents such as in the video.”

What is the exact number, please? The number of deaths caused by sectarian violence vs the number of deaths caused by collateral damage?

@7 “LayZ: I see the positive side of the story every day. After all, our administration still wants us to stay there and is still selling this war to all of us. Your video was a nice try in convincing us that everything is hunky dory there. Might work on the folks who are over on one of the gossip sites, but doesn’t work on me.”

When did I ever say things were hunky dory? All I’m suggesting is there are good things happening, too. If see the positive side of the story every day, I’ve not seen you post any evidence. This is not the first time you’ve posted this type of propaganda, so excuse me if I’m dubious of your sincerity.

“Have you ever talked with someone on the other side of our guns and bombs? Fear isn’t the word they use. The video I posted will give you many more insights.”

Yes, I have. I guess it all depends on who you talk to. I’ve talked with many that see us as liberators. You haven’t apparently. So,where does that leave us?

“But, oh well, the next terrorists can’t yet get out of Iraq. Someday they will be able to, though. I guess that’s going to be a problem for my son’s generation to deal with.”

Not sure what the hell point you are trying to make here. Please tell me you aren’t suggesting the US created terrorism by invading Iraq, and if we had done nothing except focus on Afghanistan terrorism would have been eradicated. Can you explain the point you were lamely attempting to make with this comment?

@16 By citing the commonality of the name Mohammed, I think Al is putting too fine a point on the issue he is attempting to call out. Take a look a this fertility map and tell me amongst whom the largest growth rate is happening?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Fertility_rate_world_map_2.png

and also have a look at this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_territories_by_fertility_rate

how many “non-muslim” countries show up in the Top 10? Top 20? Top 50? Better still,how many muslim country show up? How many European countries show up in the Top 50? Top 100? I see ZERO. How many non-Muslim countries are BELOW the world average fertility rate? How many are above? How many European countries are BELOW the world average fertility rate? How many are ABOVE? So, you tell me what the world will look like in 20 to 50 years at this rate.

>>please tell us when and where US Military Aircraft bombed Iran; there doesn’t seem to be ANY info on the US attacking and bombing Iran

Go back and look at the Ronald Reagan History. He nearly sunk the entire Iranian Navy on a single day.

great, more life lessons (linkbait, is more like it). seriously scoble, stay on target with your audience. i can get this on any number of sites, and the commentary will be much more gripping than “What are we solving?”.

from laz “@34″What is the exact number, please? The number of deaths caused by sectarian violence vs the number of deaths caused by collateral damage?

You’re kidding,right?
you think we know the EXACT number of deaths caused by your oh so clean term of collateral damage?
I repeat, we are the occupiers, deaths to civilians by us, by accident, mistaken identy, etc, does us no damn good , and creates more enemies.

I see you read townhall.
Enough said.
The movie the battle of algiers would be something that you should watch.

Have you ever noticed USA are not the only “Americans”? Start thinking about it and you will begin to understand.

Scoble,

first of all, channel 9 was a lot better when you were there. please return.

re: Iraq and the terrible death of Ausama’s uncle. Saddam had to be taken out. He was a madman and there was a nuclear arms race looming between Iraq and Iran. OK, so the US military action to invade Iraq was justified and necessary.

The madness which has followed is, with all respect and concern for the Ausama of the video, his fault and the fault of the many educated and aware Iraqis like him. Ausama is the same age and ability of the Americans fighting in his country. The response of he and too many other educated Iraqis is to watch from the sidelines and then flee their country.

If the educated Iraqi men of fighting age dont trust the Iraqi Army commanders, they could enlist into the US military.

-Steve

Americans? check

American wanna-be’s? check

@42. So THAT’S what John Edwards means when he says there are “two Americas”. Now I understand

@41. I never suggested there were not deaths caused by collateral damage. I do however,think the majority of civilian deaths “caused by Americans” are collateral damage and not intentional. In fact, the military is almost hamstrung by their rules of engagement. Be that as it may, the question is: why are those less tolerated by you than the ones caused by sectarian violence? Or are you suggesting that if the US leaves the civilian deaths will dramatically drop because the sectarian violence will stop.

I still see you haven’t answered the question: What happens to the region if the US pulls out?

“I see you read townhall”

And I see you read DailyKoz and DemocraticUnderground….enough said. What’s your point?

About the quote of the “two Americas” ( I haven’t heard the actual quote”) I suppose it is based on a Spanish poet who in 1930s wrote “One of the two Spains will freeze your heart”.
But you seem not to understand. I mean America is not USA. America is a whole continent. By making the word your own, is like you say the rest of countries such as Canada, Mexico, Brasil etc are not Americans. That is your big mistake, thinking you are more important than the rest of the world.

sirventes… move past your envy/hate/whatever and try focusing on something that MATTERS in this world. Stop focusing on such trivial BS.

You americans (USA) are so funny,
Say one thing and do an other. Support and protest the war at the same time.
Secterian Violence , WTF, … Your administration got more people killed then Saddam in his entire carreer. You really believe an iraqi is going to make a distinction who actualy killed his or her wife, husband son or daughter.
Melting pot is better to keep a cuture , shure ask the native americans that.

all verry funny.

Humility goes a long way, but it seems stupidity goes further.

America has a lot of virtues, so I’m not anti-american per se, though I don’t see why anyone shouldn’t be allowed to be, the brits do a great line in anti-frenchism (and we don’t need a bloody excuse of a war for it)!

However, below is a list of stupidness in comment by comment form.

My own observations are that it is a great regret that Peter Jennings isn’t with us anymore.  It doesn’t take fox news, when you have what passes for broadcast  news in america, especially the retardation-full zone that is cbs news.  America lives in a vacuum.  no matter right or left, every child is indoctrinated in “the american way” however idealistically things were meant in their creation, there’s a lack of belief in sovereignty or pluralism, their is ideology and dogma.
There’s also an undercurrent of a lack of consideration and consequence -I was reading up at avs-forum and someone made a point that all they cared about was the picture, not a jot about the power-usage, and the same thinking runs through when the 4% of the world that is america, produced/uses 25% of it’s resources -gluttonous inefficient profruglut waste -that claims it is bigger, but then requires the poorest countries to stay poor for it to even consider cutting back, let alone first,  and this obsession with “foreign oil” when canada is the primarily source -how about stop wasting energy wherever it comes from , or how much it costs.
Similarly, the breaking down between action and consequence; american people are seen as good people, they are, and they are given a lot of goodwill, but when the “American Regime” is playing its games of divide and conquer, thinking it is within its right to judge other “regimes”, to espouse its version of democracy, whose    reason for existence is transparency and consequence, then how are the other peoples of the world to not say, all americans are responsible.

The greatest thing any american could do following this is learn from the other side,  learn history, learn pluralism, learn empathy, not listen to those who proclaim themselves as “patriots” in retort as a blanket to shut everyone up.  It isn’t “our freedoms” they hate, some they want, but are we going to listen before the whole world gives up; as someone said it’s like a disappointing friend, but how long, how many times does your drunken friend disappoint before you have to move on for your own good.

See thyself in thy Mirror.

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Layz, no one fears america in the traditional sense, they are repulsed by your own narcism, the pandering of their leaders (-sometimes against the national interest), the hypocrisy, and the irrelevance placed on the value of others lives

Anyone who knows history, rather than buy’s the hollywood myth, that is like some kind of Echo-chamber to america itself, doesn’t want a green card.

Part of the deal for debt to britain, so it could afford to fight the 2nd world war, was that Britain had to give up monetary/sterling control for trade between colonies and others – friends, in war, really charge interest and keep kicking.  btw -we just paid-off that debt in the last year.

“eye for an eye” – would that be the idea that because the former twin towers were attacked by a dozen or so people, America (and the rest of the world stood by indulging the big boy who pinched) thought it had a “right” to bomb a whole country and put in place a government.

Most countries and its peoples in the world are happy to let the world be, It’s american thinking (now spreading to the rest of the g8) that believes it’s their power and will and right to dictate what civilisation is -it’s belligerence that means if america doesn’t like something, it simply cuts them out of the world and not just ignore them, but actually undermine them, from across latin america to eurasia (unless there’s money, guns and oil involved!)

25 million russians died in world war 2

You don’t have to be a muslim to have a problem with america.

Al,  would you still like to live in a world where people where bowler hats, or mods and rockers are the mainstream young culture, or how about starting fire with twigs; my point is that people always make the point about protecting their culture, but they’re never called up on that what they want is their time to stand still to the second, everything to be frozen, nothing to evolve, to change.
if free-trade is good, why isn’t free movement of people.

militant islam -if you keep pushing and pushing, financially, politically, socially, through ngo’s, however, there will eventually be blow-back (last time I looked, those who might provide such “blow-back” across latin america, russia, asia, etc aren’t muslim

Americans (in much of their persistent ignorance) still think wars happen in weeks; anyone from britain and france who knows history including teenagers, would be able to tell any american that you go into others country, and you’ll be grateful if you leave ( and in control) within a generation.

Only america would come up with the phrase and so readily use “collateral damage”

The terrorists in Iraq before the 2003 invasion were the ones that were on Americas’ side then, those against saddam husseins regime.  American culture generally being thick, labelled everyone not a government-player using arms a terrorist, and as some form of war criminal, it just wasn’t enough for america’s collective ego to handle,  as all others had previously, that terrorist are mearly dangerous criminals, and depending on who’s side there on (ironically, it was sein fein that pressed on treating it’s gang of i.r.a. gangsters as “prisoners of war”) .

You reap what you sow, unfortunately it is those of us who live in those responsible countries who will have to live with the consequences of the pain, suffering, bitterness, anger and hatred, whether in the form of our own valuable fought for freedoms being taken away, assumptions of innocence, our own humanity or the reprisals of others.

Saddam Hussein was just a 2-bit hoodlum, with some aspirations, who was made bigger to his own people by america, and bigger to the people of america itself to have another bogeyman.
The 1990 war happened because one country was piping oil from another countries, and it wasn’t iraq.
The iran war was totally egged on by the U.s., because as repeatedly seen, american leadership just can’t handle other people having different values and belief systems.

@49. Lovely sermon. Unfortunately for you, the USA runs the world. I mean, who else is capable of it? (Sort of like Britian did 300+ years ago) But the questions remain unanswered. Are there more deaths caused by insurgents or US troops? Why do deaths caused by insurgents seem to be more tolerable by the anti-war crowd.

Critiquing and questioning the reasons for going into Iraq are irrelevant at this point. We are there. So, what is the plan? What are the potential consequences of leaving? How should such a plan be carried out to ensure stability? Anyone can sit back and say “we shouldn’t have gone”. That’s like going on a trip and having your car break down and then sitting around saying “I knew this was a bad idea”