Why can Leo Laporte and Disney do it, but Mike Arrington and TechCrunch can’t?

Tonight I was driving home from a family party with Patrick. We were listening to KGO Radio. AM-810. It’s the best rated talk station in the San Francisco area (and is among the best rated station in the world). Its signal can be heard from Alaska to Mexico. The show we were listening to was Bill Wattenburg.

Two ads on KGO caught my ear. The first was an ad for Pat Vitucci and AIG, here’s a list of some of KGO’s advertisers. It was read live by Bill Wattenburg. He endorsed Pat’s seminar.

The second was by Leo Laporte, who came on and endorsed GoToMyPC in his own voice.

I’ve heard Leo endorse other products on KGO recently too in advertisements, including a security dongle (Kevin Mitnick also did such an endorsement).

KGO Radio is owned by Disney Corporation.

These two examples of advertisements are FAR further along the endorsement line than what was done by Federated Media. The ads that caused the TechMeme outcry were NOT endorsements at all, but were just bloggers talking about an advertising slogan and even then weren’t told what to say.

But the ads on KGO radio go FAR further. Most of the ads that hosts on KGO read are from a script. It’s pretty clear that the company is paying those ad readers to say specific things.

Now, I know Leo is pretty high integrity guy. I doubt he’d do an ad for a product he really hated, but would he really endorse GoToMyPC if he weren’t being paid? Might he endorse a different technique? Or teach people how to do such a thing without a commercial product? I’ve listened to Leo a lot (I used to help run his chat room back when he was a host himself on KGO radio back in the mid 1990s) and I could see him teaching people how to do it themselves without buying a third-party product to let you remotely access your files.

One thing, though, all these ads are totally disclosed. It’s very clear they are paid advertisements and are separate from the editorial copy. It’s very clear that Leo is getting paid to take these editorial stances.

But, still, why isn’t everyone yelling and screaming about these kinds of ads on professional media (this is one of the world’s top radio stations, owned by a huge multi-national corporation)?

Here’s why? Beating up on Disney won’t get you any links. Won’t get you on TechMeme. Won’t insert you into a conversation. Won’t build your traffic.

In fact, Leo is so popular and credible that beating up on him might cause a major blowback the way that beating up on Macs usually gets you hundreds of angry commenters (ask John Dvorak about that one).

Now you know why Valleywag is still pushing this story front and center (even Larry Page, cofounder of Google, arriving at FooCamp in a helicopter couldn’t push this story off of the front page over there).

Translation: there’s lots of professional endorsing that’s been going on for years (this isn’t new). As long as it’s disclosed I don’t see the problem with it.

On the other hand, Jeff Jarvis has a major problem with these kinds of advertisements. I respect Jeff’s stance but don’t think Jeff’s stance will be followed by everyone.

For me, I will disclose when I’m doing stuff for money. I’m not going to be as pure as Jeff Jarvis is, sorry, but when I’m not I’ll let you know so you can make up your own mind about what I’m saying.

UPDATE: Leo Laporte explained why he does radio endorsements in my comments and that he won’t endorse a product that he doesn’t already use (and has turned down requests for endorsements from other companies because of that). I believe him when he says this, too, because I’ve seen him turn down advertising and sponsorship opportunities.

185 thoughts on “Why can Leo Laporte and Disney do it, but Mike Arrington and TechCrunch can’t?

  1. I had to respond to this from Jeff Jarvis:

    “Note that TV people used to do the same thing. Go watch 60 Minutes guys telling you to smoke a cigarette, or live reads on Today. That ended. Why? Because it reduced the credibility of the journalists and hosts reading the ads.”

    Jeff if you think journalists in any medium are not pressured by the guys who bring in the advertising dollars you are naive.

    Don’t kid yourself. Radio does it, TV does it, Newspapers do it and as soon as the first blogger ran an ad on his site blogs started doing it.

    The line between editorial and advertising is grey at best in any form of media. The journalists who are not affected by ad dollars are the exception not the rule.

    That is exactly what happened here right? I’m sure this wasn’t Mike Arrington or Om Malik’s idea. MS approached FM with an idea, or the FM sales guy pitched it to MS and then they went to the talent. No one complained and the ads were created and run. Happens all the time every day bit of media you read, listen to or view.

    As for Mike Arrington trying to hide the fact that he was paid for his quote; if that was the case he really did a poor job of it.

    Mike seems like a pretty outspoken and up front guy. He says he thought people would realize it was an ad and I believe him.

    I also realize as Leo says that talent makes its living partly by doing this and I do not begrudge them. I just take that into account when anyone endorses anything.

  2. I had to respond to this from Jeff Jarvis:

    “Note that TV people used to do the same thing. Go watch 60 Minutes guys telling you to smoke a cigarette, or live reads on Today. That ended. Why? Because it reduced the credibility of the journalists and hosts reading the ads.”

    Jeff if you think journalists in any medium are not pressured by the guys who bring in the advertising dollars you are naive.

    Don’t kid yourself. Radio does it, TV does it, Newspapers do it and as soon as the first blogger ran an ad on his site blogs started doing it.

    The line between editorial and advertising is grey at best in any form of media. The journalists who are not affected by ad dollars are the exception not the rule.

    That is exactly what happened here right? I’m sure this wasn’t Mike Arrington or Om Malik’s idea. MS approached FM with an idea, or the FM sales guy pitched it to MS and then they went to the talent. No one complained and the ads were created and run. Happens all the time every day bit of media you read, listen to or view.

    As for Mike Arrington trying to hide the fact that he was paid for his quote; if that was the case he really did a poor job of it.

    Mike seems like a pretty outspoken and up front guy. He says he thought people would realize it was an ad and I believe him.

    I also realize as Leo says that talent makes its living partly by doing this and I do not begrudge them. I just take that into account when anyone endorses anything.

  3. This post is such obvious linkbait. Trash Leo Laporte and throw in Mike Arrington and Disney. Of course once you get the traffic, from the post, you’ll back peddle. “Oh, I didn’t mean to implicate Leo. I love Leo.”

    It’s ok for Leo because he has a rare combination or integrity and authenticity.

    Now that you have your traffic, you should delete this post, or at least apologize to Leo for dragging his name through the mud so you could get a few extra clicks.

  4. This post is such obvious linkbait. Trash Leo Laporte and throw in Mike Arrington and Disney. Of course once you get the traffic, from the post, you’ll back peddle. “Oh, I didn’t mean to implicate Leo. I love Leo.”

    It’s ok for Leo because he has a rare combination or integrity and authenticity.

    Now that you have your traffic, you should delete this post, or at least apologize to Leo for dragging his name through the mud so you could get a few extra clicks.

  5. DaveD,

    Fine, This Leo issue has been making me angry for years now.
    Most of you Americans do not know what happened to TechTV when it went off the air in the US. The truth is it came to Canada, and it took it’s American people with it. The CRTC set up rules to prevent non-Canadian networks from overrunning our TVs, and they largely ignored that by flying people over here for tapings instead of getting local people like they were supposed to.

    I won’t mention it anymore. At any rate, even if most of you do not understand I know 1000% Leo will know exactly what I’m talking about.

  6. DaveD,

    Fine, This Leo issue has been making me angry for years now.
    Most of you Americans do not know what happened to TechTV when it went off the air in the US. The truth is it came to Canada, and it took it’s American people with it. The CRTC set up rules to prevent non-Canadian networks from overrunning our TVs, and they largely ignored that by flying people over here for tapings instead of getting local people like they were supposed to.

    I won’t mention it anymore. At any rate, even if most of you do not understand I know 1000% Leo will know exactly what I’m talking about.

  7. I think it’s lame of Leo to do that too. Maybe even worse when it gets down to it because Arrington et all weren’t specifically endorsing a particular product saying how great it was and you should buy it. Leo supposedly holds himself to long-held, accepted journalistic standards. The new bloggers say the rules are still being formed, we’re not sure about the blurry lines yet, bloggers are opinionists and not journalists, etc etc.

    Doesn’t Laporte get paid enough now that TechTV is off the air?

  8. I think it’s lame of Leo to do that too. Maybe even worse when it gets down to it because Arrington et all weren’t specifically endorsing a particular product saying how great it was and you should buy it. Leo supposedly holds himself to long-held, accepted journalistic standards. The new bloggers say the rules are still being formed, we’re not sure about the blurry lines yet, bloggers are opinionists and not journalists, etc etc.

    Doesn’t Laporte get paid enough now that TechTV is off the air?

  9. Of course, Nick, that was lazy and stupid of me. And I didn’t mean to put any words into your mouth. I’m still fond of my Scobleizer identity as “Goebbels” and will miss it, but I guess it’s time to shed the cloak. So… Scoble, Tim Faulkner is “Goebbels.”

    Ouch. The gloves seem to be coming off big time – especially if Mr. Faulkner needs to apoligize ONLY to Robert, who – since he worked with the man – knew who he was anyways.

    That has to hurt. But hey, I’ve been wondering why you left PodTech or whatever you worked with Robert on. It seems _THAT_ piece of openness wasn’t anywhere to be found too.

    This IS on topic. The only 1 person I ever met with incorruptible squeaky clean reputation is Richard Stallman. I know for a fact that most of you here would not want to read his blog or deal with him.

    Only because YOU believe it to be. You contribute more noise than anyone around here anymore. And I mean “noise” in a very very bad way sir. Anymore, I’m forced to gloss over posts by you.

    If you know “for a fact” then simply post it on your blog and trackback – ONCE – here. But no, somehow you must control the “conversation” in the comments almost as bad as FM has to.

    Hey Chris, at least we all can figure out their agenda for that. What’s YOUR’S? To wit:

    I’m sure if there was something you were really sick of and the source posted here, I’m sure you would have a few choice words for them.

    So, since you posted NOTHING in the first 37 posts you figure you can post 6 times in the next 37? All about Leo’s something-or-another in Canada? (I believe, truth is, you bored the hell outta me with post #1.)

    That sir, is hijacking. Like it or not. One things’ for sure – it ain’t “a few choice words”.

    If you can’t get enough traffic for your blog – them’s be your problem. Say it once here – anything more is NOISE.

    Sorry Robert. I know, his entire comment only aggravates the noise here. Looks like your blog – with my help and several others too – is getting bak to those mudpit days of yore.

    But that’s what happens anymore in the stampede mentality of the blogosphere anymore, eh?

  10. Of course, Nick, that was lazy and stupid of me. And I didn’t mean to put any words into your mouth. I’m still fond of my Scobleizer identity as “Goebbels” and will miss it, but I guess it’s time to shed the cloak. So… Scoble, Tim Faulkner is “Goebbels.”

    Ouch. The gloves seem to be coming off big time – especially if Mr. Faulkner needs to apoligize ONLY to Robert, who – since he worked with the man – knew who he was anyways.

    That has to hurt. But hey, I’ve been wondering why you left PodTech or whatever you worked with Robert on. It seems _THAT_ piece of openness wasn’t anywhere to be found too.

    This IS on topic. The only 1 person I ever met with incorruptible squeaky clean reputation is Richard Stallman. I know for a fact that most of you here would not want to read his blog or deal with him.

    Only because YOU believe it to be. You contribute more noise than anyone around here anymore. And I mean “noise” in a very very bad way sir. Anymore, I’m forced to gloss over posts by you.

    If you know “for a fact” then simply post it on your blog and trackback – ONCE – here. But no, somehow you must control the “conversation” in the comments almost as bad as FM has to.

    Hey Chris, at least we all can figure out their agenda for that. What’s YOUR’S? To wit:

    I’m sure if there was something you were really sick of and the source posted here, I’m sure you would have a few choice words for them.

    So, since you posted NOTHING in the first 37 posts you figure you can post 6 times in the next 37? All about Leo’s something-or-another in Canada? (I believe, truth is, you bored the hell outta me with post #1.)

    That sir, is hijacking. Like it or not. One things’ for sure – it ain’t “a few choice words”.

    If you can’t get enough traffic for your blog – them’s be your problem. Say it once here – anything more is NOISE.

    Sorry Robert. I know, his entire comment only aggravates the noise here. Looks like your blog – with my help and several others too – is getting bak to those mudpit days of yore.

    But that’s what happens anymore in the stampede mentality of the blogosphere anymore, eh?

  11. I hear Glenn Beck pimping GoToMyPC.com and other talk radio hosts on the Premiere Radio Network doing spoken ads for the product. Leo’s show is part of that network.
    If GoToMyPC buys network-wide advertising, then why wouldn’t Leo go along, unless he had some major malfunction with GoToMyPC.

  12. I hear Glenn Beck pimping GoToMyPC.com and other talk radio hosts on the Premiere Radio Network doing spoken ads for the product. Leo’s show is part of that network.
    If GoToMyPC buys network-wide advertising, then why wouldn’t Leo go along, unless he had some major malfunction with GoToMyPC.

  13. LayZ: well, I have a Sprint phone already and if I ever say something nice about it you’ll know they either came out with a new phone that’s a lot better or they put so much money in front of me that I sold my soul. Of course I’ll disclose selling my soul, so I seriously doubt they’ll put any amount of money in front of me.

  14. LayZ: well, I have a Sprint phone already and if I ever say something nice about it you’ll know they either came out with a new phone that’s a lot better or they put so much money in front of me that I sold my soul. Of course I’ll disclose selling my soul, so I seriously doubt they’ll put any amount of money in front of me.

  15. @5 “The hosts read commercials live. It’s sometimes hard to understand that the host is reading a commercial and not giving us his own thoughts.”

    Seriously? Man! you need to listen to more radio.

    @29 “For instance, if Sprint offers me a million dollars to say its phone is better than an iPhone then I’ll turn that down because I can’t say that and keep any credibility. My credibility is worth more than the money.”

    That all sounds very noble, because you are talking in theory. I find it VERY HARD to believe that if Sprint sat across the table from you with an actual check made to Robert Scoble for $1,000,000 you would feel the same. Maybe you would. Me? I’d quickly find SOMETHING better about is Sprint phone than an iPhone. BEcause I could find A LOT of good things to do for society with a “free” $1,000,000.

    There has to be some point where you would take the money. Otherwise your would be being foolish and irrational. What if they paid you $1MM a word? $10MM a word? Are you seriously saying there is NO amount of money that would get you to say ONE nice thing about a Sprint phone over an iPhone? Like they say, everyone has a price. I’m sure someone will eventually find yours.

  16. @5 “The hosts read commercials live. It’s sometimes hard to understand that the host is reading a commercial and not giving us his own thoughts.”

    Seriously? Man! you need to listen to more radio.

    @29 “For instance, if Sprint offers me a million dollars to say its phone is better than an iPhone then I’ll turn that down because I can’t say that and keep any credibility. My credibility is worth more than the money.”

    That all sounds very noble, because you are talking in theory. I find it VERY HARD to believe that if Sprint sat across the table from you with an actual check made to Robert Scoble for $1,000,000 you would feel the same. Maybe you would. Me? I’d quickly find SOMETHING better about is Sprint phone than an iPhone. BEcause I could find A LOT of good things to do for society with a “free” $1,000,000.

    There has to be some point where you would take the money. Otherwise your would be being foolish and irrational. What if they paid you $1MM a word? $10MM a word? Are you seriously saying there is NO amount of money that would get you to say ONE nice thing about a Sprint phone over an iPhone? Like they say, everyone has a price. I’m sure someone will eventually find yours.

  17. @63

    I’m sure if there was something you were really sick of and the source posted here, I’m sure you would have a few choice words for them. BTW, who’s talking about a SQL server?

    I was blasting Leo for stacking our Canadian cultural cable content which the CRTC mandated for us with people who are
    A. not from Canada
    B. do not live in Canada
    C. have no idea what Canadian culture is about

    I wish Canada would strike back and send the Trailer Park Boys to take over American PBS(set aside for US content). That would be just as fair.

  18. @63

    I’m sure if there was something you were really sick of and the source posted here, I’m sure you would have a few choice words for them. BTW, who’s talking about a SQL server?

    I was blasting Leo for stacking our Canadian cultural cable content which the CRTC mandated for us with people who are
    A. not from Canada
    B. do not live in Canada
    C. have no idea what Canadian culture is about

    I wish Canada would strike back and send the Trailer Park Boys to take over American PBS(set aside for US content). That would be just as fair.

  19. “Because I’m sick of it.”

    Each of us are sick of bazillion other things… That doesn’t mean we barge in to some one else’s blog post and hijack it.

    Seriously, you should really see if you are adding any value to the original blog post before talking about your-next-big-sql-server/your-social-networking-idea-that-google-stole/How-you-offer-services-at-lower-rate/

  20. “Because I’m sick of it.”

    Each of us are sick of bazillion other things… That doesn’t mean we barge in to some one else’s blog post and hijack it.

    Seriously, you should really see if you are adding any value to the original blog post before talking about your-next-big-sql-server/your-social-networking-idea-that-google-stole/How-you-offer-services-at-lower-rate/

  21. I think that for Arrington the cummulative effect of the FM debacle and his reactions are the real story. It seems as if a tipping point has been reached. He has been gambling with his reputation which he has effective thrown under the bus. I hope some good comes out of this sordid episode.

  22. I think that for Arrington the cummulative effect of the FM debacle and his reactions are the real story. It seems as if a tipping point has been reached. He has been gambling with his reputation which he has effective thrown under the bus. I hope some good comes out of this sordid episode.

  23. from a uk (non usa perspective) the use of presenters to do the adds realy sounds cheazy. Maybe we are spoiled by the BBC.

    It also sounds so old skool a bit like the 40’s raido soap operas you almost expect a musical interlude by say “Chico Marx and his Ravellis” live from the Palace Hotel sponsored by colgate.

    Using presenters to do ads might be a negative for a non usa audience certainly jared for me on TWIT

  24. from a uk (non usa perspective) the use of presenters to do the adds realy sounds cheazy. Maybe we are spoiled by the BBC.

    It also sounds so old skool a bit like the 40’s raido soap operas you almost expect a musical interlude by say “Chico Marx and his Ravellis” live from the Palace Hotel sponsored by colgate.

    Using presenters to do ads might be a negative for a non usa audience certainly jared for me on TWIT

  25. This IS on topic. The only 1 person I ever met with incorruptible squeaky clean reputation is Richard Stallman. I know for a fact that most of you here would not want to read his blog or deal with him.

    The same thing that makes people like him immune against paid opinions is the same reason a lot of people dislike him and try to discredit him.

    If Leo was the same as Stallman, he wouldn’t have his own TV show, he wouldn’t be highly regarded by the same audience, and he wouldn’t even have the opportunity to sell his opinion. Fact.

  26. This IS on topic. The only 1 person I ever met with incorruptible squeaky clean reputation is Richard Stallman. I know for a fact that most of you here would not want to read his blog or deal with him.

    The same thing that makes people like him immune against paid opinions is the same reason a lot of people dislike him and try to discredit him.

    If Leo was the same as Stallman, he wouldn’t have his own TV show, he wouldn’t be highly regarded by the same audience, and he wouldn’t even have the opportunity to sell his opinion. Fact.

  27. The term “conversational marketing” really strikes me as bunch of crap. If what took place in the FM campaign was really a conversation, then where are the countervailing and skeptical voices? Would FM/Microsoft have run an ad by an A-list blogger that said something like:

    ‘People Powered sounds like a manufactured marketing term. I had never heard of such a thing until I was asked to comment on it.’

    No, they wouldn’t. By being selective in what shows up in the “conversation” makes the whole idea of this as one-sided and disingenuous.

  28. The term “conversational marketing” really strikes me as bunch of crap. If what took place in the FM campaign was really a conversation, then where are the countervailing and skeptical voices? Would FM/Microsoft have run an ad by an A-list blogger that said something like:

    ‘People Powered sounds like a manufactured marketing term. I had never heard of such a thing until I was asked to comment on it.’

    No, they wouldn’t. By being selective in what shows up in the “conversation” makes the whole idea of this as one-sided and disingenuous.

  29. @48,

    Because I’m sick of it. He’s abusing the system, and nobody calls him up on it.
    The original topic is pointless. Radio talkshow personalities have their own rate to do advertisements. I should know I actually advertised on a major radio station. If you pay them X amount of dollars more, they do the advert clip for you, with their well known radio voice.

    http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=613447541&size=o
    Yes, I’ve really dealt with Radio and other advertisers. Yes, I know what they will do, and any radio personality talk will pretty much do any advert if the price is right. Laporte is no exception and neither is Scoble. And yes this is the norm and not the exception.

    Money talks, bullsh*t walks. Sorry to burst anybody’s bubble. We live in Captilism here.
    I thought it was so obvious it wasn’t worth debating. Oh, …and drink your ovaltine!

  30. @48,

    Because I’m sick of it. He’s abusing the system, and nobody calls him up on it.
    The original topic is pointless. Radio talkshow personalities have their own rate to do advertisements. I should know I actually advertised on a major radio station. If you pay them X amount of dollars more, they do the advert clip for you, with their well known radio voice.

    http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=613447541&size=o
    Yes, I’ve really dealt with Radio and other advertisers. Yes, I know what they will do, and any radio personality talk will pretty much do any advert if the price is right. Laporte is no exception and neither is Scoble. And yes this is the norm and not the exception.

    Money talks, bullsh*t walks. Sorry to burst anybody’s bubble. We live in Captilism here.
    I thought it was so obvious it wasn’t worth debating. Oh, …and drink your ovaltine!

  31. @Chris, why are you cluttering this important thread with your meaningless rant against Leo Laporte? Take it elsewhere please.

  32. @Chris, why are you cluttering this important thread with your meaningless rant against Leo Laporte? Take it elsewhere please.

  33. Robert,

    I have no problem in people endorsing products in their conversations as long as they make it clear that it is a paid endorsement. I do agree that marketing can be conversations but all conversations cannot be marketing. If this thin line is crossed, people will run away from bloggers just like how they run away from people involved with companies like Amway. Unless there is an explicit notification regarding the paid endorsement, there is no way we can understand if it is their sincere opinion or paid endorsement. When I listen to Leo’s show, I can make out from his tone that it is not part of the conversation he is having. But you cannot do that in blogs. They have to be explicit. Dave Winer has got it right.

  34. Robert,

    I have no problem in people endorsing products in their conversations as long as they make it clear that it is a paid endorsement. I do agree that marketing can be conversations but all conversations cannot be marketing. If this thin line is crossed, people will run away from bloggers just like how they run away from people involved with companies like Amway. Unless there is an explicit notification regarding the paid endorsement, there is no way we can understand if it is their sincere opinion or paid endorsement. When I listen to Leo’s show, I can make out from his tone that it is not part of the conversation he is having. But you cannot do that in blogs. They have to be explicit. Dave Winer has got it right.

  35. Denton: “(I actually had no idea that the story would become so big. The self-obsession of the blogosophere continues to astound me.) ”

    Im here laughing too. You hit the nail on the head here.

  36. Denton: “(I actually had no idea that the story would become so big. The self-obsession of the blogosophere continues to astound me.) ”

    Im here laughing too. You hit the nail on the head here.

  37. Of course, Nick, that was lazy and stupid of me. And I didn’t mean to put any words into your mouth. I’m still fond of my Scobleizer identity as “Goebbels” and will miss it, but I guess it’s time to shed the cloak. So… Scoble, Tim Faulkner is “Goebbels.” (And Nick Denton gets credit for another outing.)

    Goebbels is no more. Lower the flag.

  38. Of course, Nick, that was lazy and stupid of me. And I didn’t mean to put any words into your mouth. I’m still fond of my Scobleizer identity as “Goebbels” and will miss it, but I guess it’s time to shed the cloak. So… Scoble, Tim Faulkner is “Goebbels.” (And Nick Denton gets credit for another outing.)

    Goebbels is no more. Lower the flag.

  39. “Cluade: A nitpick — NPR is not government subsidized, at least in my neck of the woods, where federal support is a miniscule percentage of the local stations’ budgets.”

    I believe the subsidies are tax breaks and equipment money for cultural programming. I can’t do the research right this minute, but I think that’s it.

    A little background Shaw and Comcast owned G4TechTV Canada, now it’s Rogers and Comcast and Greedy Productions.

    http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2003/11/07/crtc_031107.html

    The only reason the CRTC let them import such channels is because they PROMISED to produce a certain ratio of Canadian content.

    “In June of this year, the cable industry asked for permission to bring in the American channels, on the condition they would be packaged with Canadian digital pay and specialty services.”

    Flying Leo in from the US and his unknown Texas podcast co-host is not only needlessly and foolishly expensive, it defies what the CRTC agreed to and the spirit of the agreement.

    I will be honest. I have not yet filed a complaint to the CRTC, but will shortly. Flying Americans into Toronto or BC and calling it a Canadian show because the Americans are simply on Canadian soil is hardly Culturally Canadian. They are cheaters and losers and if the CRTC can shut down CHOIFM for making a bad joke, they can sure as heck give Leo some serious trouble for being a cheating tax leeching loser.

    Why doesn’t Leo get a show in the US where the American tax payers suffer? Think about it. Why the hell does he have to come all the way up here to play Canadian?

  40. “Cluade: A nitpick — NPR is not government subsidized, at least in my neck of the woods, where federal support is a miniscule percentage of the local stations’ budgets.”

    I believe the subsidies are tax breaks and equipment money for cultural programming. I can’t do the research right this minute, but I think that’s it.

    A little background Shaw and Comcast owned G4TechTV Canada, now it’s Rogers and Comcast and Greedy Productions.

    http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2003/11/07/crtc_031107.html

    The only reason the CRTC let them import such channels is because they PROMISED to produce a certain ratio of Canadian content.

    “In June of this year, the cable industry asked for permission to bring in the American channels, on the condition they would be packaged with Canadian digital pay and specialty services.”

    Flying Leo in from the US and his unknown Texas podcast co-host is not only needlessly and foolishly expensive, it defies what the CRTC agreed to and the spirit of the agreement.

    I will be honest. I have not yet filed a complaint to the CRTC, but will shortly. Flying Americans into Toronto or BC and calling it a Canadian show because the Americans are simply on Canadian soil is hardly Culturally Canadian. They are cheaters and losers and if the CRTC can shut down CHOIFM for making a bad joke, they can sure as heck give Leo some serious trouble for being a cheating tax leeching loser.

    Why doesn’t Leo get a show in the US where the American tax payers suffer? Think about it. Why the hell does he have to come all the way up here to play Canadian?

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