“Scoble’s silly,” Facebooker says

Teresa Klein says that I’m silly for adding everyone to Facebook as my friend. She also notes that if you value your privacy you should make sure that your Facebook profile isn’t open to my membership. Actually I agree with her on that point. Me? I am leaving myself wide open. I’ve already had some really interesting conversations and renewed friendships because of my Facebook openness.

I just took a quick look through my friends list and guess that I’ve actually met about 25% of the people who’ve added me to my friends’ list. It’s an amazing list of people, by the way. There’s CEOs, developers, CTOs, geeks, and many more interesting people. I want to go through now and leave notes on how I know each of you, if I know you.

I’d love it if you also add how you know me, even if it’s through reading my blog.

Teresa, it might look silly to you, but at Gnomedex I’ll show you why it’s not so silly for people who have audiences to invite them onto Facebook.

88 thoughts on ““Scoble’s silly,” Facebooker says

  1. Well, I am glad Scoble has agreed to be my friend. I think it shows great largesse on his part, and would welcome any friend invites from any of his insightful readers. Gambling enthusiasts especially encouraged. Thank you Robert for bringing this to our attention. Let’s continue the conversation!

  2. Well, I am glad Scoble has agreed to be my friend. I think it shows great largesse on his part, and would welcome any friend invites from any of his insightful readers. Gambling enthusiasts especially encouraged. Thank you Robert for bringing this to our attention. Let’s continue the conversation!

  3. I find the security (personal ID security etc) of Facebook to be a bit muddled:

    On signing up they almost immediately asked me to enter credit card information (why I would want to do this I don’t know, as I declined, and no reasons were given for me to enter it in the first place).

    They also wanted me to pick a “region”, but really forced me to pick a city (not the same as a region) and the closest choice was thirty minute drive from here. Last night as I was updating my profile it warned me that all of this info was available to anyone else who had picked this city as their “region”.

    Anybody could, I guess pick various cities as a way to snoop around on strangers profiles. I decided to try using my old college as a network instead, as I’d probably have more in common with that group than the residents of this distant city. Oh, no, can’t do that unless you have an e-mail address at the college. Huh?

    One thing I Do like about it is the “light” interface that would probably work even on a dial-up link. Not nearly the clutter of Myspace. I’ll probably keep my Facebook ID even though I won’t use it all that much, unlike my Myspace test which I deleted after the first day.

    Really, people should err on the side of caution when it comes to giving out personal details. To encourage people who may not know the risks to do otherwise is irresponsible.

    A few systems such as this have established themselves as “mainstream”, but what do we really know about their hiring practices for the people who run their data centers? Have they had background checks etc? One of these days we’ll see a headline that some social networking site has been completely harvested from inside and the rules will suddenly change for what “makes sense”. I think I’ll stay on the bleeding edge of this curve, with no apologies to those who want to be universally connected.

  4. I find the security (personal ID security etc) of Facebook to be a bit muddled:

    On signing up they almost immediately asked me to enter credit card information (why I would want to do this I don’t know, as I declined, and no reasons were given for me to enter it in the first place).

    They also wanted me to pick a “region”, but really forced me to pick a city (not the same as a region) and the closest choice was thirty minute drive from here. Last night as I was updating my profile it warned me that all of this info was available to anyone else who had picked this city as their “region”.

    Anybody could, I guess pick various cities as a way to snoop around on strangers profiles. I decided to try using my old college as a network instead, as I’d probably have more in common with that group than the residents of this distant city. Oh, no, can’t do that unless you have an e-mail address at the college. Huh?

    One thing I Do like about it is the “light” interface that would probably work even on a dial-up link. Not nearly the clutter of Myspace. I’ll probably keep my Facebook ID even though I won’t use it all that much, unlike my Myspace test which I deleted after the first day.

    Really, people should err on the side of caution when it comes to giving out personal details. To encourage people who may not know the risks to do otherwise is irresponsible.

    A few systems such as this have established themselves as “mainstream”, but what do we really know about their hiring practices for the people who run their data centers? Have they had background checks etc? One of these days we’ll see a headline that some social networking site has been completely harvested from inside and the rules will suddenly change for what “makes sense”. I think I’ll stay on the bleeding edge of this curve, with no apologies to those who want to be universally connected.

  5. “Ignore the naysayers who still try to keep the web closed like a pipe that only serves to connect two people on opposite ends of a line.”

    Hoo boy! Joe, I am NOT a naysayer. I’ve just been using Facebook for a while and I’m starting to see that its purpose has changed a lot. I guess I’m going to have to reevaluate how I use it.

    “It is not, nor has it ever been, possible for you to see someone’s profile based solely on the fact that you have a mutual facebook friend.”>

    Pete, I dunno how long you’ve been on Facebook. But I do vividly remember this privacy setting existing at some point in time. I’ll have to ask some of the people I know from Facebook if my memory is flawed or not on that one. I’m certainly willing to admit I’m wrong, if I am in fact, wrong. But I’m pretty sure I’m not.

    “But it demonstrates that you can get gainful employment, even after taking your shirt off at an industry party!

    Anyway, seriously, there’s no such thing as privacy anymore, is there? What you all trying to hide?!?”

    Robert, I wonder if you’d say that about me. I’ve been asking that question for some time. If I took my shirt off at an industry party, would I still be respected inside or outside the world of technology the next morning?

    Perhaps things have changed more than I realized, but it used to be that any hint of sexuality from a woman in the workforce was an automatic strike against her. I’ve tested that limit to be sure. I’ve posted photos and videos of myself frolicking in bikinis on YouTube, FB and even *shudder* MySpace. And so far, I haven’t met with any pushback or obvious judgment. But I’m curious to see whether it will ever bite me in the ass.

    I’ve posted more about my thoughts on this subject. Check it out if you’re interested!

  6. “Ignore the naysayers who still try to keep the web closed like a pipe that only serves to connect two people on opposite ends of a line.”

    Hoo boy! Joe, I am NOT a naysayer. I’ve just been using Facebook for a while and I’m starting to see that its purpose has changed a lot. I guess I’m going to have to reevaluate how I use it.

    “It is not, nor has it ever been, possible for you to see someone’s profile based solely on the fact that you have a mutual facebook friend.”>

    Pete, I dunno how long you’ve been on Facebook. But I do vividly remember this privacy setting existing at some point in time. I’ll have to ask some of the people I know from Facebook if my memory is flawed or not on that one. I’m certainly willing to admit I’m wrong, if I am in fact, wrong. But I’m pretty sure I’m not.

    “But it demonstrates that you can get gainful employment, even after taking your shirt off at an industry party!

    Anyway, seriously, there’s no such thing as privacy anymore, is there? What you all trying to hide?!?”

    Robert, I wonder if you’d say that about me. I’ve been asking that question for some time. If I took my shirt off at an industry party, would I still be respected inside or outside the world of technology the next morning?

    Perhaps things have changed more than I realized, but it used to be that any hint of sexuality from a woman in the workforce was an automatic strike against her. I’ve tested that limit to be sure. I’ve posted photos and videos of myself frolicking in bikinis on YouTube, FB and even *shudder* MySpace. And so far, I haven’t met with any pushback or obvious judgment. But I’m curious to see whether it will ever bite me in the ass.

    I’ve posted more about my thoughts on this subject. Check it out if you’re interested!

  7. Thanks for commenting on my blog posting I did about you making my day by proving to me how small the world is! (I know it, but it’s good to get a reminder every few days!)

    Within 20 minutes of reading your blog, we had connected in facebook and had moved past the icebreaker.

    Now once we agree on whether all friends should be accepted or only after a non facebook related icebreaker (an IM message, an email), we can move onto sorting out world peace.

    Both viewpoints have merit, but i still buy into my way of facebook “virtual contacts” accepting which is i think i should have an idea of why i have accepted someone as my facebook contact (they actually tell me a piece of information which proves they’re REAL “company they work for, industry they’re in, sport they’re interested in” – SOMETHING).

    [Yours is that as someone reads your blog they're connected to you through that, but that seems to be a 1 way connection rather than a 2 way connection, as they know you, but you don't know anything about them.]

    Now about that 22 hour flight to actually have a face to face conversation…

  8. Thanks for commenting on my blog posting I did about you making my day by proving to me how small the world is! (I know it, but it’s good to get a reminder every few days!)

    Within 20 minutes of reading your blog, we had connected in facebook and had moved past the icebreaker.

    Now once we agree on whether all friends should be accepted or only after a non facebook related icebreaker (an IM message, an email), we can move onto sorting out world peace.

    Both viewpoints have merit, but i still buy into my way of facebook “virtual contacts” accepting which is i think i should have an idea of why i have accepted someone as my facebook contact (they actually tell me a piece of information which proves they’re REAL “company they work for, industry they’re in, sport they’re interested in” – SOMETHING).

    [Yours is that as someone reads your blog they're connected to you through that, but that seems to be a 1 way connection rather than a 2 way connection, as they know you, but you don't know anything about them.]

    Now about that 22 hour flight to actually have a face to face conversation…

  9. Robert, great to hear/see you are keeping the dream of collaboration and connectedness alive. Ignore the naysayers who still try to keep the web closed like a pipe that only serves to connect two people on opposite ends of a line. We already have a system like this it’s called the telephone.

    I appreciate you for showing the world how the web could be if we were to embrace the connectedness it truly allows for. Keep on keepin on!

    Regards,

    Joe Bruzzese

  10. Robert, great to hear/see you are keeping the dream of collaboration and connectedness alive. Ignore the naysayers who still try to keep the web closed like a pipe that only serves to connect two people on opposite ends of a line. We already have a system like this it’s called the telephone.

    I appreciate you for showing the world how the web could be if we were to embrace the connectedness it truly allows for. Keep on keepin on!

    Regards,

    Joe Bruzzese

  11. “Teresa, it might look silly to you, but at Gnomedex I’ll show you why it’s not so silly for people who have audiences to invite them onto Facebook.”

    Robert… For those of us not able to attend Gnomedex, would you be willing to post your points on this topica after the fact?

    To be sure, I understand the value of bringing your audience closer using a social network … but I’d like to hear your perspective, and won’t be at the conference.

    Oh, and when I send emails from my personal account, my signature includes links to my profiles on MySpace, Facebook, and LinkedIn… I suppose with Friendster building more page views I will need to add that link as well (my first, now-unused, social network).

  12. “Teresa, it might look silly to you, but at Gnomedex I’ll show you why it’s not so silly for people who have audiences to invite them onto Facebook.”

    Robert… For those of us not able to attend Gnomedex, would you be willing to post your points on this topica after the fact?

    To be sure, I understand the value of bringing your audience closer using a social network … but I’d like to hear your perspective, and won’t be at the conference.

    Oh, and when I send emails from my personal account, my signature includes links to my profiles on MySpace, Facebook, and LinkedIn… I suppose with Friendster building more page views I will need to add that link as well (my first, now-unused, social network).

  13. I may be missing the nuances of Teresa’s point given the fact given this quote: “But if you’re a friend of his and you don’t want a lot of exposure, you might want to change your privacy settings to reflect that you don’t want friends of friends to be able to see your profile.”

    It is not, nor has it ever been, possible for you to see someone’s profile based solely on the fact that you have a mutual facebook friend. The only choices you have relate to your network. All of your networks, some of them (you can specify, I think), and only your friends.

    So if folks are poking around trying to find a “Don’t show this to my friends’ friends” they’re going to be looking for a looooong time.

  14. I may be missing the nuances of Teresa’s point given the fact given this quote: “But if you’re a friend of his and you don’t want a lot of exposure, you might want to change your privacy settings to reflect that you don’t want friends of friends to be able to see your profile.”

    It is not, nor has it ever been, possible for you to see someone’s profile based solely on the fact that you have a mutual facebook friend. The only choices you have relate to your network. All of your networks, some of them (you can specify, I think), and only your friends.

    So if folks are poking around trying to find a “Don’t show this to my friends’ friends” they’re going to be looking for a looooong time.

  15. Bill: interesting. I always wonder how people find my blog. Glad you like the Photowalking series. Thomas is going to do a lot more of the for us. On Friday there were more than 20 photographers out with us. They are my favorite shows too.

  16. Bill: interesting. I always wonder how people find my blog. Glad you like the Photowalking series. Thomas is going to do a lot more of the for us. On Friday there were more than 20 photographers out with us. They are my favorite shows too.

  17. Bill: interesting. I always wonder how people find my blog. Glad you like the Photowalking series. Thomas is going to do a lot more of the for us. On Friday there were more than 20 photographers out with us. They are my favorite shows too.

  18. I became a reader in a roundabout way. I had heard of you before, most likely thorugh one of Leo Laporte’s many net(pod)casts or Dvorak. Then I found the interview you gave to Tim Ferriss on how you read 622 feeds every day, probably via Digg. I had never used a feed reader before, and so tried Google Reader.

    I don’t think I subscribed to your blog right away, but the real hook for me was your Photowalking series. I love photography, and the look into how Thomas takes pictures was inspiring.

  19. I became a reader in a roundabout way. I had heard of you before, most likely thorugh one of Leo Laporte’s many net(pod)casts or Dvorak. Then I found the interview you gave to Tim Ferriss on how you read 622 feeds every day, probably via Digg. I had never used a feed reader before, and so tried Google Reader.

    I don’t think I subscribed to your blog right away, but the real hook for me was your Photowalking series. I love photography, and the look into how Thomas takes pictures was inspiring.

  20. I became a reader in a roundabout way. I had heard of you before, most likely thorugh one of Leo Laporte’s many net(pod)casts or Dvorak. Then I found the interview you gave to Tim Ferriss on how you read 622 feeds every day, probably via Digg. I had never used a feed reader before, and so tried Google Reader.

    I don’t think I subscribed to your blog right away, but the real hook for me was your Photowalking series. I love photography, and the look into how Thomas takes pictures was inspiring.

  21. Thanks Robert for adding. I like the fact that you’re pretty transparent and open with whatever you’re doing. I too strive to be as transparent as possible to everyone but just curious to know where do you draw the line?

  22. Thanks Robert for adding. I like the fact that you’re pretty transparent and open with whatever you’re doing. I too strive to be as transparent as possible to everyone but just curious to know where do you draw the line?

  23. Thanks Robert for adding. I like the fact that you’re pretty transparent and open with whatever you’re doing. I too strive to be as transparent as possible to everyone but just curious to know where do you draw the line?

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