Microsoft’s top designers leave to give away lovely flowers

This startup makes me sad. Not because it isn’t doing beautiful stuff. They are. Maryam will smile when she gets her flowers delivered this morning. UPDATE: she laughed and said “you remembered I love flowers.” I guess that’s a hint, huh? ;-)

But Long Zheng only gets part of the story of three designers who left Microsoft to start a new company. More on “They’re Beautiful” over on TechMeme.

See, I know two of the three people involved. But there are other designers I’ve seen come to Microsoft and leave, too.

These designers tried to make Microsoft build products that are more fun to use, more emotional, more visually pleasing, more user-centric.

IE, more like the iPhone.

But they keep getting shot down, over and over and over.

So they leave.

When I worked at Microsoft I helped get one very talented designer hired into Microsoft (I won’t name him, sorry). The fact that Jenny Lam was working at Microsoft was a key part of his decision to come. He only lasted a few months. He never told me the reason cause he’s a professional but I could see it in his eyes. He knew that the company would never listen to him.

Microsoft is run by geeks. You know the type. They don’t understand why you need to design in animations, great sounds, and a flow from one experience to the next. They, at heart, think that a simple text list is just as good as something that has nice animations, fonts, graphics, etc. Heck, most of the developers who work at Microsoft live in text editors all day long. Even if they do get it, the committees kill these features when the project runs behind schedule because they take a ton of coding time, a ton of testing time, and don’t provide any “hard” value to the product.

Ask yourself again whether the iPhone would sell as well if you had to click a “next” button to see your next photo instead of having them animate across the screen while you drag your finger. My Nokia has the “next” button style interface. My iPhone is magical to use because it does the drag-the-finger animations. Apple listens to its designers. Microsoft and Nokia obviously do not.

It isn’t lost on me that the Xbox team is not located on Microsoft’s campus. They forced Bill Gates to give them a series of buildings about five miles away from headquarters so that this geek culture couldn’t poison the teams who needed to build something a bit more artisitic. Er, emotional. It also isn’t lost on me that Bungie, the folks who make the video game Halo, has its own building 10 miles away from headquarters (in the opposite direction from the Xbox team) and doesn’t even have a Microsoft sign on the front of the building. When you walk into Bungie it’s clear that the artists run the place, not the developers.

Most engineers I’ve met don’t get this stuff. Don’t understand why video games have an emotional effect on people.

Last night I interviewed Nicole Lazarro of XEO Designs. She talks exactly like Jenny Lam. She’s an “emotional architect” and helps game companies improve their games and has a document about “Why We Play Games” that’s a good read for someone trying to understand the emotional response. She does TONS of user testing and she’s already working on a study about the iPhone and why it makes people smile when they use it (they do, and several of the reviewers say it literally makes them laugh when they use it).

Dave Winer, last night, when talking with Nicole, said that it felt like the iPhone was designed by a set of movie artists, rather than software designers. He said that was both good and bad. That it “felt good” (he says the iPhone feels like driving a BMW) but that they forgot lots of little lessons that software developers had learned over the past 30 years. I’ll let him tell you what he meant by that, but those of us with iPhones have all hit lots of walls, and when you hit a wall you’ve probably hit one of those places where a lesson was forgotten

Joe Hewitt, one of the developers on the first Firefox team, was working with Nicole to build a game on the iPhone, among other things. He’s writing about that experience on his blog, by the way. He keeps hitting the walls too and he’s having to do hack after hack just to get it to do something basic, and simple, like a list of song titles.

Anyway, I have an interview with Jenny Lam, back when she worked at Microsoft.

Jenny, and Hillel Cooperman, and Walter Smith are creating a company up in Seattle that’s already one to watch.

Oh, and the flowers? They are nice and all, but are really just a front end to Silicon Valley’s next big business model: Virtual Goods. If I were a Silicon Valley startup trying to get venture funding, I’d go visit Hillel and see what kinds of virtual goods partnerships they could make.

Thanks for the beautiful flowers, can’t wait to see what they do next.

I would rather have had a beautiful set of experiences on Windows, though, or an “iPhone killer” from the Windows Mobile group. I hope that the great designers still left inside Microsoft (and there are a few) start getting listened to by the culture inside Microsoft. But the stream of designers that leave Microsoft isn’t sending a gesture of love and inspiration.

Oh well, at least we have some nice virtual flowers.

  • Stephen

    If design is so important why did Podtech rip off an artist Robert? Are u guys ever going to pay the photographer you stole photos from? What about the Vloggie awards. Guess you don’t really care about designers just iPhonez.

  • Stephen

    If design is so important why did Podtech rip off an artist Robert? Are u guys ever going to pay the photographer you stole photos from? What about the Vloggie awards. Guess you don’t really care about designers just iPhonez.

  • http://scobleizer.com/ Robert Scoble

    skc: you should talk to Leo Laporte about how the Nokia N95 sucks. He can’t even take photos with his anymore cause it doesn’t work.

    When it does work it takes great photos, but it certainly is not even close to as fun to use as the iPhone is.

  • http://scobleizer.com/ Robert Scoble

    skc: you should talk to Leo Laporte about how the Nokia N95 sucks. He can’t even take photos with his anymore cause it doesn’t work.

    When it does work it takes great photos, but it certainly is not even close to as fun to use as the iPhone is.

  • http://scobleizer.com/ Robert Scoble

    Stephen: we didn’t “rip off” a photographer. We made a mistake. Someone used a photo from Flickr on a sign without getting permission. Now that photographer is negotiating with us over what that photo is worth. We are willing to pay $1,000, he wants $3,000. I’ve asked a ton of professional photographers what they’d have charged in a similar circumstance and the average price is $200.

    As for the Vloggie awards? It’s obvious you are reading Valleywag. Anyone who believes a single word on Valleywag deserves what they get. They don’t care about the truth. It’s pretty obvious you don’t either.

    Everyone who earned a Vloggie award has one. If not, my phone number is 425-205-1921. I haven’t gotten a single phone call yet and no “journalist” (and I use that word lightly) from Valleywag has called to verify the “facts” they are reporting either.

  • http://scobleizer.com/ Robert Scoble

    Stephen: we didn’t “rip off” a photographer. We made a mistake. Someone used a photo from Flickr on a sign without getting permission. Now that photographer is negotiating with us over what that photo is worth. We are willing to pay $1,000, he wants $3,000. I’ve asked a ton of professional photographers what they’d have charged in a similar circumstance and the average price is $200.

    As for the Vloggie awards? It’s obvious you are reading Valleywag. Anyone who believes a single word on Valleywag deserves what they get. They don’t care about the truth. It’s pretty obvious you don’t either.

    Everyone who earned a Vloggie award has one. If not, my phone number is 425-205-1921. I haven’t gotten a single phone call yet and no “journalist” (and I use that word lightly) from Valleywag has called to verify the “facts” they are reporting either.

  • anona

    “It looks like they did a good job with Live Earth streaming this weekend.”

    Wouldn’t know: didn’t work on my Mac. Hello, are we in the year 2007?

  • Joe Smith

    I was just thinking the opposite, that Microsoft could be in danger of copying the WRONG UI stuff from Apple. I read with interest how Dave Winer found the iPhone music UI harder to use than the iPod UI, all those cascading CD covers etc….this weekend, in all the cmoputer and Best Buy flyers in our local Sunday paper, what is highlighted in Vista but cascading, animated windows. It’s very dangerous for Microsoft to copy the flash but miss the soul and ease of use — and this comes from someone who is not an Apple-backer in the least….

  • anona

    “It looks like they did a good job with Live Earth streaming this weekend.”

    Wouldn’t know: didn’t work on my Mac. Hello, are we in the year 2007?

  • Joe Smith

    I was just thinking the opposite, that Microsoft could be in danger of copying the WRONG UI stuff from Apple. I read with interest how Dave Winer found the iPhone music UI harder to use than the iPod UI, all those cascading CD covers etc….this weekend, in all the cmoputer and Best Buy flyers in our local Sunday paper, what is highlighted in Vista but cascading, animated windows. It’s very dangerous for Microsoft to copy the flash but miss the soul and ease of use — and this comes from someone who is not an Apple-backer in the least….

  • http://www.geise.com/ PXLated

    The fastest way to kill something is to throw an MBA into the mix. Or let the bean counters run the company. Or even worse, put a sales guy in charge.
    The business side of the world is not very creative (if at all) and business schools just keep crankin out the same old management types. Of course, there aren’t many Steve Jobs. The geeks are just the tip of the problematic iceberg.

  • http://www.geise.com PXLated

    The fastest way to kill something is to throw an MBA into the mix. Or let the bean counters run the company. Or even worse, put a sales guy in charge.
    The business side of the world is not very creative (if at all) and business schools just keep crankin out the same old management types. Of course, there aren’t many Steve Jobs. The geeks are just the tip of the problematic iceberg.

  • http://blendingthemix.com/ Paul Fabretti
  • http://scobleizer.com/ Robert Scoble

    Joe: good point. That also happens when designers are allowed to put a little lipstick on the pig, but aren’t able to redesign the pig from scratch. Of course redesigning something like Windows, which has so many users/constituencies, is REALLY tough.

  • http://scobleizer.com/ Robert Scoble

    Joe: good point. That also happens when designers are allowed to put a little lipstick on the pig, but aren’t able to redesign the pig from scratch. Of course redesigning something like Windows, which has so many users/constituencies, is REALLY tough.

  • http://blendingthemix.com Paul Fabretti
  • anona

    “Your app better look like Vista or the iPhone or no one will pay attention to it.”

    This is exactly why today the consumer market is where things are happening. It used to be business first and hand-me-downs for the consumer market later. Today it’s the reverse. And that’s why MSFT, bolted to IT as it is, is the legacy back-runner.

    Take one example. The iPhone and the Exchange mail business. The FUD on this by pundits without a clue of tech trends is simply amazing. The talk is always about how the iPhone which everyone seems to enjoy using will flop because, allegedly, it can’t work with Exchange, and what Apple has to do and how it needs to capitulate, yada yada. None of these people ever frame the problem as: how can MSFT redo Exchange to run smoothly with a new generation of devices like the iPhone that people want to use? How can MSFT take advantage of emerging opportunities, as opposed to how others must bend to MSFT? This isn’t the old Soviet Union, but apparently the message hasn’t reached MSFT yet.

    “Expression line of products which are aimed mostly at designers.”

    BTW, Expression hasn’t been the spark MSFT had hoped for.

  • anona

    “Your app better look like Vista or the iPhone or no one will pay attention to it.”

    This is exactly why today the consumer market is where things are happening. It used to be business first and hand-me-downs for the consumer market later. Today it’s the reverse. And that’s why MSFT, bolted to IT as it is, is the legacy back-runner.

    Take one example. The iPhone and the Exchange mail business. The FUD on this by pundits without a clue of tech trends is simply amazing. The talk is always about how the iPhone which everyone seems to enjoy using will flop because, allegedly, it can’t work with Exchange, and what Apple has to do and how it needs to capitulate, yada yada. None of these people ever frame the problem as: how can MSFT redo Exchange to run smoothly with a new generation of devices like the iPhone that people want to use? How can MSFT take advantage of emerging opportunities, as opposed to how others must bend to MSFT? This isn’t the old Soviet Union, but apparently the message hasn’t reached MSFT yet.

    “Expression line of products which are aimed mostly at designers.”

    BTW, Expression hasn’t been the spark MSFT had hoped for.

  • http://www.navagear.com/ Aaron Tinling

    As a designer who worked on the XP shell team, I definitely agree with what you’ve written, Scoble. It was a struggle to get even modest design improvements into Windows, and we had a tiny team of about ten people. That Vista is actually pretty nice is something of a miracle, thanks to Tjeerd and his team. And for the record, Frog Design’s contribution on XP was minute. Remember the “fried egg” looking skin for Windows Media Player? That was most of it.

    I’ve been back on campus for some Microsoft contract work in the last few months, and got a chance to chat with Tjeerd a bit on his last day. Tjeerd’s shoes will be hard to fill. If there is a design personality, it tends to be sensitive and a little introverted, and it’s hard for designers to feel successful in the aggessive, fast-talking, bluntly critical culture of Microsoft. Tjeerd was able to succeed within that culture, and create a design-friendly island. But, when it comes down to it, design is not truly valued at Microsoft, and that’s a big reason why Tjeerd and other highly talented designers decide to try other things.

    When something like the iPhone comes along, I get a little hopeful that Microsoft will be reminded how valuable design is. After all, the iPhone’s success will be all about it’s design. The technology is *not* revolutionary. The designed experience is what delights people.

    But basically, Microsoft is technology company, and has been so successful that the culture has never had to embrace design in order to survive. By contrast, Apple’s very existence relies on design. Otherwise a Mac is just a PC with a one button mouse.

  • http://www.navagear.com Aaron Tinling

    As a designer who worked on the XP shell team, I definitely agree with what you’ve written, Scoble. It was a struggle to get even modest design improvements into Windows, and we had a tiny team of about ten people. That Vista is actually pretty nice is something of a miracle, thanks to Tjeerd and his team. And for the record, Frog Design’s contribution on XP was minute. Remember the “fried egg” looking skin for Windows Media Player? That was most of it.

    I’ve been back on campus for some Microsoft contract work in the last few months, and got a chance to chat with Tjeerd a bit on his last day. Tjeerd’s shoes will be hard to fill. If there is a design personality, it tends to be sensitive and a little introverted, and it’s hard for designers to feel successful in the aggessive, fast-talking, bluntly critical culture of Microsoft. Tjeerd was able to succeed within that culture, and create a design-friendly island. But, when it comes down to it, design is not truly valued at Microsoft, and that’s a big reason why Tjeerd and other highly talented designers decide to try other things.

    When something like the iPhone comes along, I get a little hopeful that Microsoft will be reminded how valuable design is. After all, the iPhone’s success will be all about it’s design. The technology is *not* revolutionary. The designed experience is what delights people.

    But basically, Microsoft is technology company, and has been so successful that the culture has never had to embrace design in order to survive. By contrast, Apple’s very existence relies on design. Otherwise a Mac is just a PC with a one button mouse.

  • http://www.eisoft.com/ Shaun McDonnell

    I have been a silent reader of Scoble’s since early in his C9 days and I find this sort of information INVALUABLE to developers like myself.

    The face of computing is changing and to ignore people like Scoble and companies like Apple and Google is to be stupid. Agree or Disagree but be thankful for this sort of information from someone who has proved himself to be a trustworthy and unbiased source of information. Thanks Robert.

    Shaun McDonnell

  • http://www.eisoft.com Shaun McDonnell

    I have been a silent reader of Scoble’s since early in his C9 days and I find this sort of information INVALUABLE to developers like myself.

    The face of computing is changing and to ignore people like Scoble and companies like Apple and Google is to be stupid. Agree or Disagree but be thankful for this sort of information from someone who has proved himself to be a trustworthy and unbiased source of information. Thanks Robert.

    Shaun McDonnell

  • http://www.beercosoftware.com/ Chris

    “When I worked at Microsoft I helped get one very talented designer hired into Microsoft (I won’t name him, sorry).”

    What Microsoft considers very talented people is just plain wrong. Why do you think the company has shot downhill 1000% since 1995. The only person that was truly talented there was Bill and he’s on his way out. The rest are borg drones.

    How can somebody like Rory be considered talented for example?
    I don’t want to contribute to his situation from last week, so anybody reading through, please don’t tell him. I am just using that as an example.

    The people that are the most talented it would seem are the ones that aren’t popularized.
    Would Scoble have know Larry Page and Sergey Brin were the next Bill Gates when they were in their rented garage and to try to hire them?
    No, of course not, and that’s why MS has no clue at all.

    Really good developers would most likely not choose a lowly 1-800 flowers clone as an ambitious project. I’m sorry, they just wouldn’t. That’s lowly with a capital L as far as software is concerned.

  • http://www.beercosoftware.com Chris

    “When I worked at Microsoft I helped get one very talented designer hired into Microsoft (I won’t name him, sorry).”

    What Microsoft considers very talented people is just plain wrong. Why do you think the company has shot downhill 1000% since 1995. The only person that was truly talented there was Bill and he’s on his way out. The rest are borg drones.

    How can somebody like Rory be considered talented for example?
    I don’t want to contribute to his situation from last week, so anybody reading through, please don’t tell him. I am just using that as an example.

    The people that are the most talented it would seem are the ones that aren’t popularized.
    Would Scoble have know Larry Page and Sergey Brin were the next Bill Gates when they were in their rented garage and to try to hire them?
    No, of course not, and that’s why MS has no clue at all.

    Really good developers would most likely not choose a lowly 1-800 flowers clone as an ambitious project. I’m sorry, they just wouldn’t. That’s lowly with a capital L as far as software is concerned.

  • http://blogs.x2line.com/al/ Anatoly Lubarsky

    Well I take Microsoft side on this.
    therebeautiful design suck big time from the enduser experience perspective, IMHO.

    Microsoft among other things helped them gain their credibility and authority more than they contributed to Microsoft.

  • http://blogs.x2line.com/al/ Anatoly Lubarsky

    Well I take Microsoft side on this.
    therebeautiful design suck big time from the enduser experience perspective, IMHO.

    Microsoft among other things helped them gain their credibility and authority more than they contributed to Microsoft.

  • http://www.beercosoftware.com/ Chris

    My bad, they are emailing a link to view clipart of flowers, not selling actual flowers. Geez. Wow.
    I don’t believe software developers made this. Not at all.
    Even if they did work for Microsoft.

  • http://www.beercosoftware.com Chris

    My bad, they are emailing a link to view clipart of flowers, not selling actual flowers. Geez. Wow.
    I don’t believe software developers made this. Not at all.
    Even if they did work for Microsoft.

  • http://scobleizer.com/ Robert Scoble

    Chris: do you realize that hotornot.com sells virtual flowers for $10 a piece and is doing a landmark business in doing so? Or that there’s companies over in Korea that are making tens of millions of dollars from virtual goods?

  • http://scobleizer.com/ Robert Scoble

    Chris: do you realize that hotornot.com sells virtual flowers for $10 a piece and is doing a landmark business in doing so? Or that there’s companies over in Korea that are making tens of millions of dollars from virtual goods?

  • http://scobleizer.com/ Robert Scoble

    Anatoly: how does it suck? It does exactly what it purports to do: send a virtual flower to someone else. Made Maryam laugh.

  • http://scobleizer.com/ Robert Scoble

    Anatoly: how does it suck? It does exactly what it purports to do: send a virtual flower to someone else. Made Maryam laugh.

  • Brian Shapiro

    Robert Scoble

    If I would put it harshly, it sucks like Hallmark Greeting Cards suck. A lot of people still use them, but not people who have taste. And that has nothing to do with who is geeky and who isn’t.

  • Brian Shapiro

    Robert Scoble

    If I would put it harshly, it sucks like Hallmark Greeting Cards suck. A lot of people still use them, but not people who have taste. And that has nothing to do with who is geeky and who isn’t.

  • Brian Shapiro

    Also, I think enthusiasts and bloggers are missing what has made Apple design good when its been good.

    All of the attempts of Apple to be ‘emotional experiences’ gave way to more smooth minimal design in time. Fruity iMacs, gone. Pinstripe, gone.

    The mac interface and mac hardware is becoming more and more minimal, with the ‘emotional’ aspects of it disappearing over time, because people realize its bad taste.

    I really think that Microsoft does need to improve a lot of things in their design, but if they go for all the gimmicky things that Apple started with and then dropped, they’ll be learning the wrong thing about Apple’s story.

  • Brian Shapiro

    Also, I think enthusiasts and bloggers are missing what has made Apple design good when its been good.

    All of the attempts of Apple to be ‘emotional experiences’ gave way to more smooth minimal design in time. Fruity iMacs, gone. Pinstripe, gone.

    The mac interface and mac hardware is becoming more and more minimal, with the ‘emotional’ aspects of it disappearing over time, because people realize its bad taste.

    I really think that Microsoft does need to improve a lot of things in their design, but if they go for all the gimmicky things that Apple started with and then dropped, they’ll be learning the wrong thing about Apple’s story.

  • Karen Darmer

    “My iPhone is magical to use because it does the drag-the-finger animations.”

    Robert, I’m confused. I thought your iPhone was a birthday gift to Maryam :-) Have you purchased another one?

  • Karen Darmer

    “My iPhone is magical to use because it does the drag-the-finger animations.”

    Robert, I’m confused. I thought your iPhone was a birthday gift to Maryam :-) Have you purchased another one?

  • http://blogs.msdn.com/stevecla01 steve clayton

    I agree Robert, it’s sad. Too many smart people leave because innovation is stifled. it makes me very sad to see talent leave and i know a few outside Redmond who have done the same.

    one thing that does frustrate me is that people think the only talent exists in Redmond. There is plenty across the world of Microosft and their voices need to be heard and their stories told. it’s not all about cool products but also about how people use existing products in cool ways. Like the Silverlight stuff with Skinkers this week. UK company working with MSR UK doing very cool stuff.

    We’re a platform company after all and though http://www.microsoft.com/design/Voices/Master.aspx is cool, it needs an update

  • http://blogs.msdn.com/stevecla01 steve clayton

    I agree Robert, it’s sad. Too many smart people leave because innovation is stifled. it makes me very sad to see talent leave and i know a few outside Redmond who have done the same.

    one thing that does frustrate me is that people think the only talent exists in Redmond. There is plenty across the world of Microosft and their voices need to be heard and their stories told. it’s not all about cool products but also about how people use existing products in cool ways. Like the Silverlight stuff with Skinkers this week. UK company working with MSR UK doing very cool stuff.

    We’re a platform company after all and though http://www.microsoft.com/design/Voices/Master.aspx is cool, it needs an update

  • http://mickeleh.blogspot.com/ Michael Markman

    @15 skc hits at the core of why this is so hard. Who is an all-knowing design guru? Designers aren’t infallable. Some of the designs they propose are better than others. Some degrade usability. Many clients are clueless about how to judge designs other than to say “I like it,” “I don’t like it,” or “too much dev time to execute.”

    Listening to designers doesn’t necessarily mean doing whatever they propose. Jobs is not just passionate about design, he spends a good chunk of his time every week reviewing design. He looks at U-I design, industrial design, and marketing design. The market appeal of Apple products depend on all three. Design isn’t decoration that gets sprinkled onto a product. It’s in the DNA. Of the designs that are presented to Steve Jobs, for example, how many does he bless and how many does he reject? Anybody know the ratio? (I suspect that’s one of Apple’s closely-guarded trade secrets.)

    Thanks, Robert for opening this topic. Sadly, design remains a mysterious and suspect discipline for many folks who are responsible for making decisions about tech projects. We’re all the poorer for that.

  • http://mickeleh.blogspot.com Michael Markman

    @15 skc hits at the core of why this is so hard. Who is an all-knowing design guru? Designers aren’t infallable. Some of the designs they propose are better than others. Some degrade usability. Many clients are clueless about how to judge designs other than to say “I like it,” “I don’t like it,” or “too much dev time to execute.”

    Listening to designers doesn’t necessarily mean doing whatever they propose. Jobs is not just passionate about design, he spends a good chunk of his time every week reviewing design. He looks at U-I design, industrial design, and marketing design. The market appeal of Apple products depend on all three. Design isn’t decoration that gets sprinkled onto a product. It’s in the DNA. Of the designs that are presented to Steve Jobs, for example, how many does he bless and how many does he reject? Anybody know the ratio? (I suspect that’s one of Apple’s closely-guarded trade secrets.)

    Thanks, Robert for opening this topic. Sadly, design remains a mysterious and suspect discipline for many folks who are responsible for making decisions about tech projects. We’re all the poorer for that.

  • http://www.beercosoftware.com/ Chris

    “Chris: do you realize that hotornot.com sells virtual flowers for $10 a piece and is doing a landmark business in doing so? Or that there’s companies over in Korea that are making tens of millions of dollars from virtual goods?”

    People are so retarded. I did not realize how much until now.
    Anybody that pays 10 dollars to briefly look at bad clip art of flowers that they were spam mailed is beyond salvation.

    No Scoble, if it were that easy, we wouldn’t be building hot new tech. Do you realize how much revenue a site like friendster or myspace could make if they simply charged ONE DOLLAR???
    So why don’t they?

    Do you think the owners of those websites would simply turn down the money?
    Different audience, and from what I can tell They’re Beautiful doesn’t seem to be advertised in Korean.
    They also do not have a bank of women showing themselves off in pictures to salivating men, ready to do anything to get their attention.

  • http://www.beercosoftware.com Chris

    “Chris: do you realize that hotornot.com sells virtual flowers for $10 a piece and is doing a landmark business in doing so? Or that there’s companies over in Korea that are making tens of millions of dollars from virtual goods?”

    People are so retarded. I did not realize how much until now.
    Anybody that pays 10 dollars to briefly look at bad clip art of flowers that they were spam mailed is beyond salvation.

    No Scoble, if it were that easy, we wouldn’t be building hot new tech. Do you realize how much revenue a site like friendster or myspace could make if they simply charged ONE DOLLAR???
    So why don’t they?

    Do you think the owners of those websites would simply turn down the money?
    Different audience, and from what I can tell They’re Beautiful doesn’t seem to be advertised in Korean.
    They also do not have a bank of women showing themselves off in pictures to salivating men, ready to do anything to get their attention.

  • Guest

    As crazy as it sounds, the Microsoft product that has impressed me the most lately is Windows Live Writer. It’s pretty basic but it’s pretty and it works well. It’s well designed.

    I still can’t stand Vista though. I’m very happy running XP with the Zune theme.

  • http://blog.nordquist.org Brett Nordquist

    As crazy as it sounds, the Microsoft product that has impressed me the most lately is Windows Live Writer. It’s pretty basic but it’s pretty and it works well. It’s well designed.

    I still can’t stand Vista though. I’m very happy running XP with the Zune theme.

  • http://mp.blogs.com/ Michael Parekh

    Chris (comment 48), you may have noticed that Facebook sells virtual “gifts” starting at one dollar. Don’t know how much they sell, but wouldn’t be surprised if that’s a pretty significant and growing number over a user base of 25 plus million, half of whom log in every day.

    The virtual goods business model is in it’s infancy…kind of like the days of prodigy and compuserve.

    One of your best posts, Robert. Curious, who would you say is the highest ranking “emotional architect” at Microsoft?

    If you’re hesitant to name names, how many “EAs” you think have reached the upper echelons are your alma mater?

    thanks.

  • http://mp.blogs.com/ Michael Parekh

    sorry, was addressing Chris, comment no. 46 above. My bad.

  • http://mp.blogs.com Michael Parekh

    Chris (comment 48), you may have noticed that Facebook sells virtual “gifts” starting at one dollar. Don’t know how much they sell, but wouldn’t be surprised if that’s a pretty significant and growing number over a user base of 25 plus million, half of whom log in every day.

    The virtual goods business model is in it’s infancy…kind of like the days of prodigy and compuserve.

    One of your best posts, Robert. Curious, who would you say is the highest ranking “emotional architect” at Microsoft?

    If you’re hesitant to name names, how many “EAs” you think have reached the upper echelons are your alma mater?

    thanks.

  • http://mp.blogs.com Michael Parekh

    sorry, was addressing Chris, comment no. 46 above. My bad.