The eight ways you can be my friend (or enemy) online

Two posts caught my eye this morning:

Steve Rubel: The Web changes how we define friendship.
Donna Bogatin: Real friends don’t share.

I’ve been hanging out in my Kyte chat room on and off since Sunday and one of the most common misperceptions is how online worlds deal with the issue of “friendship.” The misunderstandings here are really deep. Particularly on how Facebook tracks your friendship online.

1) People don’t understand what the difference between a “real” friend and an “online” friend is.
2) People don’t understand that Facebook can tell the difference between my enemies and friends (and I have both on Facebook and Plaxo, since I accept everyone’s online friendship, if requested).

Anyway, I cover this in two videos:

Part I of the eight ways you can be my friend (or enemy) online. 20 minutes.
Part II of the eight ways you can be my friend (or enemy) online. 4 minutes.

I mention Mark Lucovsky of Google in this video because he Faceslammed me. Funny, Google’s new Facebook app doesn’t work for me. Maybe he should have had me test out Google’s Facebook application before releasing it to the world. :-)

[kyte.tv 6118]

  • http://www.informednetworker.com/ David Mackey

    I’m not a big fan of video either – text summaries are good.

  • ben

    Robert,

    I’m sure people such as myself that have hearing problems are a very small part of your audience.

    I gave up trying to listen to podcasts a long time ago. The audio quality of most aren’t good enough for me.

    I can read lips, so a video isn’t too bad if the camera focuses on the faces of the people having the conversation.

    A written transcript is much better. Even if I didn’t have poor hearing, I read faster than most people speak. If a a video takes one hour to watch, the transcript can be read in 15 or 20 minutes.

  • ben

    Robert,

    I’m sure people such as myself that have hearing problems are a very small part of your audience.

    I gave up trying to listen to podcasts a long time ago. The audio quality of most aren’t good enough for me.

    I can read lips, so a video isn’t too bad if the camera focuses on the faces of the people having the conversation.

    A written transcript is much better. Even if I didn’t have poor hearing, I read faster than most people speak. If a a video takes one hour to watch, the transcript can be read in 15 or 20 minutes.

  • http://logicalextremes.blogspot.com/2007/07/new-walled-garden-bubble.html Logical Extremes

    Right. Videos should be two minutes or less, and even at that, they have to be awfully compelling (no, how to be your friend is not very compelling). Also, Kyte doesn’t work as universally as other video platforms, so you lose some folks that way. Arrogance oozing from every pore of this blog.

  • http://logicalextremes.blogspot.com/2007/07/new-walled-garden-bubble.html Logical Extremes

    Right. Videos should be two minutes or less, and even at that, they have to be awfully compelling (no, how to be your friend is not very compelling). Also, Kyte doesn’t work as universally as other video platforms, so you lose some folks that way. Arrogance oozing from every pore of this blog.

  • Sk

    Sharing content thru video is good but Kytetv and the video quality sucks.
    In case you are going to preserve these videos for historic purposes then better buy a decent camcorder or digital camera (most of them can record 640 x 480 movies).
    I think more than the size of the video I would say the quality matters and that is where you need to improve on.

  • Sk

    Sharing content thru video is good but Kytetv and the video quality sucks.
    In case you are going to preserve these videos for historic purposes then better buy a decent camcorder or digital camera (most of them can record 640 x 480 movies).
    I think more than the size of the video I would say the quality matters and that is where you need to improve on.

  • http://www.cutcaster.blogspot.com/ john griffin

    there is def a major difference between an online friend vs. a real world friend. it seems pretty obvious to me that people should realize this.

  • http://www.cutcaster.blogspot.com john griffin

    there is def a major difference between an online friend vs. a real world friend. it seems pretty obvious to me that people should realize this.

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  • http://twitter.com/agrundner Alexander Grundner

    Now if Facebook could actually make meaningful sense of all the data collected, which you describe in your “seven ways”, that would be fantastic! I would love to see a *real* top friends list of people who are interacting with you regularly, as well as, have shared interests without you doing the leg work.

  • http://www.alexandergrundner.com Alexander Grundner

    Now if Facebook could actually make meaningful sense of all the data collected, which you describe in your “seven ways”, that would be fantastic! I would love to see a *real* top friends list of people who are interacting with you regularly, as well as, have shared interests without you doing the leg work.

  • http://fibergeneration.typepad.com/welcome/ Marc Duchesne

    This Friend vs. Enemy stuff is no new in the CyberSpace. A long long time ago, in a galaxy not that far far away, there was a world where people got flammed just by showing up in a group, no matter what they were going to say (or write, in this case). It was called Usenet ;-)

  • http://fibergeneration.typepad.com/welcome/ Marc Duchesne

    This Friend vs. Enemy stuff is no new in the CyberSpace. A long long time ago, in a galaxy not that far far away, there was a world where people got flammed just by showing up in a group, no matter what they were going to say (or write, in this case). It was called Usenet ;-)

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  • http://opinionatedmarketers.blogspot.com/ John Whiteside

    Nothing you have to say is worth bringing my day to a full stop to watch your video. Nothing. I might be sitting with my laptop at a cafe & can’t watch it then. I might be on a dull conference call and skimming blogs. Most of all, maybe seeing the kind of disregard for users you exhibit just leads to me to the conclusion that you’re full of hot air. Ciao, bambino.

  • http://opinionatedmarketers.blogspot.com John Whiteside

    Nothing you have to say is worth bringing my day to a full stop to watch your video. Nothing. I might be sitting with my laptop at a cafe & can’t watch it then. I might be on a dull conference call and skimming blogs. Most of all, maybe seeing the kind of disregard for users you exhibit just leads to me to the conclusion that you’re full of hot air. Ciao, bambino.

  • http://www.sugarattack.com/ William

    @15 – if you say so.. lol

  • http://www.sugarattack.com William

    @15 – if you say so.. lol

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  • http://www.figby.com/ Michael Moncur

    The fact that more people here are commenting on your media (a 24-minute long video in two parts) than on your message should tell you something very important.

    I, too, don’t have the time or the inclination to watch you spend 24 minutes getting to the point, but I’d love to read an essay, or even watch a tightly-edited 2-minute video.

    Also, I don’t use Facebook and you can’t make me. :)

  • http://www.figby.com/ Michael Moncur

    The fact that more people here are commenting on your media (a 24-minute long video in two parts) than on your message should tell you something very important.

    I, too, don’t have the time or the inclination to watch you spend 24 minutes getting to the point, but I’d love to read an essay, or even watch a tightly-edited 2-minute video.

    Also, I don’t use Facebook and you can’t make me. :)

  • http://seekng.com/ alien

    Its clear you will lose lots of your cubicle audience if they can’t quickly read your thoughts.
    Fear of Boss rises with headphones on and lengthy video

  • http://seekng.com alien

    Its clear you will lose lots of your cubicle audience if they can’t quickly read your thoughts.
    Fear of Boss rises with headphones on and lengthy video

  • http://jilltxt.net/ Jill

    Oh – I wanted to know what the eight ways were, but I don’t have time to watch 24 minutes of video… I want to be able to scan text!

  • http://jilltxt.net Jill

    Oh – I wanted to know what the eight ways were, but I don’t have time to watch 24 minutes of video… I want to be able to scan text!

  • http://www.nactionr.com/ Jonathan

    Your content of late, Robert, has been utterly inaccessible to me. I’m profoundly deaf and, while I lipread on a daily basis, I am unable to lipread the vast majority of these videos. The quality is too low, the lighting is too poor and the framerates are too low.

    If online content is moving towards video then I hope transcripts become commonplace or the web is devalued as a medium for anyone who can’t understand video for whatever reason (deafness, or just hard of hearing, or they just don’t understand English well enough to follow a conversation or monologue).

  • http://www.nactionr.com Jonathan

    Your content of late, Robert, has been utterly inaccessible to me. I’m profoundly deaf and, while I lipread on a daily basis, I am unable to lipread the vast majority of these videos. The quality is too low, the lighting is too poor and the framerates are too low.

    If online content is moving towards video then I hope transcripts become commonplace or the web is devalued as a medium for anyone who can’t understand video for whatever reason (deafness, or just hard of hearing, or they just don’t understand English well enough to follow a conversation or monologue).

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