Gizmodo on integrity…

Brian Lam of Gizmodo does a great turnaround and questions his critics and their integrity.

Oh, excuse me, I’ve now gotta turn off all of the Apple monitors at MacWorld to prove I’m “independent” and “not part of Apple’s PR machine.”

Funny, unlike Lam, I did not get an invite to Steve Jobs’ keynote tomorrow. I’m going to be waiting out in the cold, along with my son to try to get in. (I’ll be using my Nokia N95, but don’t tell Brian cause he’ll think that’s part of Nokia’s PR machine. I guess I gotta pee on my Nokia to make sure I’m seen as “properly independent.”)

Funny, back in journalism school I was taught that journalists were supposed to report the news, not make it.

But now I guess we’re in a new world of the blogosphere. I call it “the stuntosphere.”

I think I’ll run naked through MacWorld tomorrow. I’m sure that’ll get some traffic. Make Nick Denton proud. Prove to Gizmodo that I’m “independent” and that I “won’t play Steve Jobs’ game.”

Since when did hurting other people’s ability to do their jobs become “ethical journalism?” And to use Steve Wozniak’s pranks (which were never aimed at keeping people from doing their jobs — he wouldn’t even let me aim a laser pointer at a screen at Shoreline to make sure I didn’t hurt other people’s experiences) is just despicable. Brian: you really need to spend some time understanding how Woz did his pranks and the ethics he used behind them. He, also, didn’t pretend to be a journalist, or even a blogger, while doing those pranks.

Can I have off this “new ethical journalism” bus now? I gotta go throw up.

189 thoughts on “Gizmodo on integrity…

  1. >turning off the power to a hospital

    Let’s not confuse life safety with your/gizmodo’s attempt to generate page views by being sensational. What they did was stupid and wrong but hey at least they fessed up, you however are still in denial.

    Sheesh just admit you were be a dingus already you’ll feel much better i promise.

    Oh and yes I know when you want to make your thing look small you compare it to Big things like the government spends $75 on toilet seats and only $12 on school lunches, or if you want to make your thing look big you compare it things really small, like the government spends $12 on lunches but they only spend $1 on pencils so aren’t school lunches overpriced. It’s what we call framing your argument. You may able to distract some people by framing your argument and throwing in things like “power to a hospital” but again your mind tricks don’t work on me.

  2. >turning off the power to a hospital

    Let’s not confuse life safety with your/gizmodo’s attempt to generate page views by being sensational. What they did was stupid and wrong but hey at least they fessed up, you however are still in denial.

    Sheesh just admit you were be a dingus already you’ll feel much better i promise.

    Oh and yes I know when you want to make your thing look small you compare it to Big things like the government spends $75 on toilet seats and only $12 on school lunches, or if you want to make your thing look big you compare it things really small, like the government spends $12 on lunches but they only spend $1 on pencils so aren’t school lunches overpriced. It’s what we call framing your argument. You may able to distract some people by framing your argument and throwing in things like “power to a hospital” but again your mind tricks don’t work on me.

  3. Spot on Robert.

    Sadly it seems da “Giz” (oh please) has decided to appeal to drunken fratboy digg hive mind culture and ditch us old timers who still believe in the concept of journalism.

    I hope the bonus cheque was worth it Mr Brain Lame.

  4. Spot on Robert.

    Sadly it seems da “Giz” (oh please) has decided to appeal to drunken fratboy digg hive mind culture and ditch us old timers who still believe in the concept of journalism.

    I hope the bonus cheque was worth it Mr Brain Lame.

  5. Robert,
    I think there’s a distinction between news and a massive gathering of companies to tout their latest wares. CES is a marketing event, when a company spends money there it’s deducted from there income as a marketing expense (yay, my tax dollars help finance CES!!), reporting is not just covering a marketing event, it’s digging ever so slightly deeper. Yes, Macworld is another marketing event and maybe a prankster can run interference on Steve’s wireless mic (another promising vector of attack in the wild new world of presentation hacking…) In fact I wouldn’t even think of Gizmodo as news for the most part, more of wry spin on the latest press release to cross their desks. The fact that they decided to turn off the TV’s is actually the most interesting thing they’ve done in a while, and posting video with a by-line is certainly in the spirit of Gonzo journalism. I’m not sure how your moral compass works but it doesn’t seem too difficult to draw a line somewhere between ruining a Motorola presentation and turning off the power at a hospital. My call on it is NO, not a good idea. Lot’s of sick people, lot’s of machines keeping them alive, machines need power so if I cut off the power people die. Bad move. Now if I’m the guy at Motorola and I’m angry at Gizmodo I need to have my head examined because I should really be pissed at Zander…

  6. Robert,
    I think there’s a distinction between news and a massive gathering of companies to tout their latest wares. CES is a marketing event, when a company spends money there it’s deducted from there income as a marketing expense (yay, my tax dollars help finance CES!!), reporting is not just covering a marketing event, it’s digging ever so slightly deeper. Yes, Macworld is another marketing event and maybe a prankster can run interference on Steve’s wireless mic (another promising vector of attack in the wild new world of presentation hacking…) In fact I wouldn’t even think of Gizmodo as news for the most part, more of wry spin on the latest press release to cross their desks. The fact that they decided to turn off the TV’s is actually the most interesting thing they’ve done in a while, and posting video with a by-line is certainly in the spirit of Gonzo journalism. I’m not sure how your moral compass works but it doesn’t seem too difficult to draw a line somewhere between ruining a Motorola presentation and turning off the power at a hospital. My call on it is NO, not a good idea. Lot’s of sick people, lot’s of machines keeping them alive, machines need power so if I cut off the power people die. Bad move. Now if I’m the guy at Motorola and I’m angry at Gizmodo I need to have my head examined because I should really be pissed at Zander…

  7. As a CES blogger this year I was also pissed by this as it served to diminish those of us who were taking the event seriously. Also I felt it was hurting the Motorola tech guys in a nasty sort of way, simply for extra cheap buzz and YouTube views.

    The worst thing? This news completely overshadowed some really great stuff at CES this year like the first year of talking about how to use technology to help developing countries. I’d trade 100 gizmodos for one great third world infrastructure project, and CES showcased several this year.

  8. As a CES blogger this year I was also pissed by this as it served to diminish those of us who were taking the event seriously. Also I felt it was hurting the Motorola tech guys in a nasty sort of way, simply for extra cheap buzz and YouTube views.

    The worst thing? This news completely overshadowed some really great stuff at CES this year like the first year of talking about how to use technology to help developing countries. I’d trade 100 gizmodos for one great third world infrastructure project, and CES showcased several this year.

  9. Sal: I’ve only made these comments on two threads, the first where Scoble suggests people delete Gizmodo from their feed and suggests a boycott, and this thread where Scoble deplores the stuntosphere.

    This topic is relevant to both topics as it very much matters whether someone doing these thing practices what they breach, opps, I mean preach.

  10. Sal: I’ve only made these comments on two threads, the first where Scoble suggests people delete Gizmodo from their feed and suggests a boycott, and this thread where Scoble deplores the stuntosphere.

    This topic is relevant to both topics as it very much matters whether someone doing these thing practices what they breach, opps, I mean preach.

  11. Scoble: Your phone book analogy is false. You should instead compare it this way,

    Is it more ethical to take a phone book which you were given permission to use on the premises of a building but which the terms of that use stated that you couldn’t take it with you, as long as you return it a day later?

    “I guess you’re the kind of guy that says that speeding and murder are the same kind of offense. Why? They both are breaking the law.”

    They are both bad acts, so yes they are both offenses. But this isn’t murder and speeding, this is stealing $10 and stealing $1,000.

    You cost Facebook money in server hits and violating the contract you had with them, they cost CES vendors money(arguably), they are the same offense on a different scale, not speeding and murder.

  12. Scoble: Your phone book analogy is false. You should instead compare it this way,

    Is it more ethical to take a phone book which you were given permission to use on the premises of a building but which the terms of that use stated that you couldn’t take it with you, as long as you return it a day later?

    “I guess you’re the kind of guy that says that speeding and murder are the same kind of offense. Why? They both are breaking the law.”

    They are both bad acts, so yes they are both offenses. But this isn’t murder and speeding, this is stealing $10 and stealing $1,000.

    You cost Facebook money in server hits and violating the contract you had with them, they cost CES vendors money(arguably), they are the same offense on a different scale, not speeding and murder.

  13. Shaudius, I guess what I resent is reading those same grievances over and over again, every time Scoble posts about certain topics. It effectively stops the conversation.

  14. Shaudius, I guess what I resent is reading those same grievances over and over again, every time Scoble posts about certain topics. It effectively stops the conversation.

  15. Scoble: Way to completely ignore my analogy, so if someone does something to someone else I can do something to them and its justified? Glad to know that, next time someone robs my house I know its okay to rob someone else’s house thanks for the tip, but its even worse than that, Facebook didn’t do anything to you, then did something to a third party.

    Its clear your moral compass just isn’t the same as the average person and that the actions of others can be used to justify your actions.

    Its only a matter of degree between what you did and what Gizmodo did, you broke a company’s TOS a legally binding document, they broke the social contract by breaking a law(assuming that Nevada law makes what they did a crime), both are breaches of a contract of sorts.

    In that way they are the same thing, both are deplorable the fact that you think your deplorable act is justified and there’s isn’t is all well and good, but both are breaches.

    Guess what? You said that you fessed up to breaking their TOS, well Gizmodo fessed up to doing what they did at CES. Admitting you did wrong does not excuse actions. Theirs, or yours.

  16. Scoble: Way to completely ignore my analogy, so if someone does something to someone else I can do something to them and its justified? Glad to know that, next time someone robs my house I know its okay to rob someone else’s house thanks for the tip, but its even worse than that, Facebook didn’t do anything to you, then did something to a third party.

    Its clear your moral compass just isn’t the same as the average person and that the actions of others can be used to justify your actions.

    Its only a matter of degree between what you did and what Gizmodo did, you broke a company’s TOS a legally binding document, they broke the social contract by breaking a law(assuming that Nevada law makes what they did a crime), both are breaches of a contract of sorts.

    In that way they are the same thing, both are deplorable the fact that you think your deplorable act is justified and there’s isn’t is all well and good, but both are breaches.

    Guess what? You said that you fessed up to breaking their TOS, well Gizmodo fessed up to doing what they did at CES. Admitting you did wrong does not excuse actions. Theirs, or yours.

  17. hooniebear: >I’m really tired of tech heads like you and Pogue acting like CES is news. It’s not.

    Really? So hundreds of companies didn’t introduce new products there? I guess introducing new products isn’t news in your book, but it surely is in mine. Did anyone die? No, but economic activity was certainly interrupted and people’s jobs COULD have been impacted. Is it wrong to turn off the power to a hospital to make a joke? Why/why not? Why is it OK at CES? By a journalist, no less?

    So, will Gizmodo mind tomorrow when I turn off its servers in the middle of MacWorld? After all, servers have on/off switches and can be switched back on.

  18. hooniebear: >I’m really tired of tech heads like you and Pogue acting like CES is news. It’s not.

    Really? So hundreds of companies didn’t introduce new products there? I guess introducing new products isn’t news in your book, but it surely is in mine. Did anyone die? No, but economic activity was certainly interrupted and people’s jobs COULD have been impacted. Is it wrong to turn off the power to a hospital to make a joke? Why/why not? Why is it OK at CES? By a journalist, no less?

    So, will Gizmodo mind tomorrow when I turn off its servers in the middle of MacWorld? After all, servers have on/off switches and can be switched back on.

  19. graywolf: >me I’m off to ponder how scraping and stealing data you don’t have permission to take is more moral than turning off TV’s during a presentation

    Let’s see.

    Is copying a page out of the phone book more or less ethical than turning off the power to a hospital or a factory or, yes, even a bank of monitors being used to create economic activity.

    After all, the power switch can be turned back on.

    To me they aren’t even close.

    I guess you’re the kind of guy that says that speeding and murder are the same kind of offense. Why? They both are breaking the law.

  20. graywolf: >me I’m off to ponder how scraping and stealing data you don’t have permission to take is more moral than turning off TV’s during a presentation

    Let’s see.

    Is copying a page out of the phone book more or less ethical than turning off the power to a hospital or a factory or, yes, even a bank of monitors being used to create economic activity.

    After all, the power switch can be turned back on.

    To me they aren’t even close.

    I guess you’re the kind of guy that says that speeding and murder are the same kind of offense. Why? They both are breaking the law.

  21. I’m really tired of tech heads like you and Pogue acting like CES is news. It’s not. One of the key points of reporting is to be able to tell the difference between real information and propaganda. CES is propaganda and someone thought it would be funny to turn of the TV’s. It didn’t lose any jobs, it didn’t cause any heart attacks, if we really want to wander down the wormhole of ethics in the blogosphere let’s set the terms of the debate higher than CES. If it we’re up to me CES would be banned for pointlessness…at least someone had the courage to try and turn it off, if only for an instant.

  22. I’m really tired of tech heads like you and Pogue acting like CES is news. It’s not. One of the key points of reporting is to be able to tell the difference between real information and propaganda. CES is propaganda and someone thought it would be funny to turn of the TV’s. It didn’t lose any jobs, it didn’t cause any heart attacks, if we really want to wander down the wormhole of ethics in the blogosphere let’s set the terms of the debate higher than CES. If it we’re up to me CES would be banned for pointlessness…at least someone had the courage to try and turn it off, if only for an instant.

  23. >Why do you keep insisting on bringing up what Facebook does to Gmail as if it somehow justifies YOUR actions.

    Because THEY DO. Glad you can’t see why.

    >The comments serve to show that Scoble taking the moral high ground and calling for a boycott of Gizmodo is not intellectually honest as he is guilty of similar tactics himself.

    The fact that you think anything I’ve done is similar to what Gizmodo did demonstrates FAR MORE ABOUT YOU than it does about me. Really sad.

    >so you are only a journalist only some of the time?

    Yes. Sometimes I’m a father. Sometimes I’m a lover. Sometimes I’m an opinion writer. Sometimes I’m reporting on a news event.

    When I’m representing Fast Company at an event you can assume I’m a journalist. Especially if I have a press badge on, like Gizmodo did when they turned off those TVs.

    When I’m spending my own money and vacation time to stand in line to buy an iPhone? Then I’m a dad, an enthusiast, and a blogger. Maybe even a journalist at times, but not a professional one (at least not there — no one was paying me to report).

  24. >Why do you keep insisting on bringing up what Facebook does to Gmail as if it somehow justifies YOUR actions.

    Because THEY DO. Glad you can’t see why.

    >The comments serve to show that Scoble taking the moral high ground and calling for a boycott of Gizmodo is not intellectually honest as he is guilty of similar tactics himself.

    The fact that you think anything I’ve done is similar to what Gizmodo did demonstrates FAR MORE ABOUT YOU than it does about me. Really sad.

    >so you are only a journalist only some of the time?

    Yes. Sometimes I’m a father. Sometimes I’m a lover. Sometimes I’m an opinion writer. Sometimes I’m reporting on a news event.

    When I’m representing Fast Company at an event you can assume I’m a journalist. Especially if I have a press badge on, like Gizmodo did when they turned off those TVs.

    When I’m spending my own money and vacation time to stand in line to buy an iPhone? Then I’m a dad, an enthusiast, and a blogger. Maybe even a journalist at times, but not a professional one (at least not there — no one was paying me to report).

  25. Sal: Of course you don’t need to be morally pure to blog, but the advice you give should be put in context. The comments serve to show that Scoble taking the moral high ground and calling for a boycott of Gizmodo is not intellectually honest as he is guilty of similar tactics himself. Thats all I’m trying to say, I’m not trying to justify Gizmodo’s actions, I’m just putting them in context in a very real way thats relevant to the author of this blog.

    I find what Gizmodo did deplorable, I also find what Scoble did deplorable, and I find it useful to ask just where advice is coming from.

  26. Sal: Of course you don’t need to be morally pure to blog, but the advice you give should be put in context. The comments serve to show that Scoble taking the moral high ground and calling for a boycott of Gizmodo is not intellectually honest as he is guilty of similar tactics himself. Thats all I’m trying to say, I’m not trying to justify Gizmodo’s actions, I’m just putting them in context in a very real way thats relevant to the author of this blog.

    I find what Gizmodo did deplorable, I also find what Scoble did deplorable, and I find it useful to ask just where advice is coming from.

  27. so you are only a journalist only some of the time? Is there a switch you turn on or off? Is that like being kinda pregnant?

    If it makes you feel better calling me a troll please do, but more and more people are seeing through you every day, stop with the trying to be famous for just being famous and actually do something noteworthy.

    me I’m off to ponder how scraping and stealing data you don’t have permission to take is more moral than turning off TV’s during a presentation

  28. Hey, Dudes, have you ever thought there were Rubes like me out in the hinterlands who didn’t freaking know TV-B-Gone existed? Have you pompous a-holes ever thought for a nano-freaking-second that people like me who were too stupid to know that TV-B-GONE didn’t exist actually NEEDED TV-B-GONE to improve our meager existence? Have you ever thought of that or are you all so wrapped up in your technocrati superiority that you don’t realize that some of us poor, sorry sum-beaches actually NEED something like TV-B-GONE to improve our niggardly lives? Come on! Fess UP! You don’t have fricking CLUE about people in the REAL WORLD. When I read the Gizmodo prank, I didn’t give one rat’s ass damn about what it did to CES, I just gave praise to gawd that I had discovered the device in the first place. Can you handle that?

    This thingie rox and it tox. That’s all I know and that’s all I care.

    Think abot this for a mere nano-second. I have to actually stand in a freaking bank that has a ridiculous TV monitor blaring some ridiculous BS at me while I stand in line. It is demeaning. It sux.
    With TV-B-GONE, Me, myself and I am in control at that stupid bank. ANd, yes, I know, change banks. I am doing that.

    Cheers, Monte.

  29. so you are only a journalist only some of the time? Is there a switch you turn on or off? Is that like being kinda pregnant?

    If it makes you feel better calling me a troll please do, but more and more people are seeing through you every day, stop with the trying to be famous for just being famous and actually do something noteworthy.

    me I’m off to ponder how scraping and stealing data you don’t have permission to take is more moral than turning off TV’s during a presentation

  30. Hey, Dudes, have you ever thought there were Rubes like me out in the hinterlands who didn’t freaking know TV-B-Gone existed? Have you pompous a-holes ever thought for a nano-freaking-second that people like me who were too stupid to know that TV-B-GONE didn’t exist actually NEEDED TV-B-GONE to improve our meager existence? Have you ever thought of that or are you all so wrapped up in your technocrati superiority that you don’t realize that some of us poor, sorry sum-beaches actually NEED something like TV-B-GONE to improve our niggardly lives? Come on! Fess UP! You don’t have fricking CLUE about people in the REAL WORLD. When I read the Gizmodo prank, I didn’t give one rat’s ass damn about what it did to CES, I just gave praise to gawd that I had discovered the device in the first place. Can you handle that?

    This thingie rox and it tox. That’s all I know and that’s all I care.

    Think abot this for a mere nano-second. I have to actually stand in a freaking bank that has a ridiculous TV monitor blaring some ridiculous BS at me while I stand in line. It is demeaning. It sux.
    With TV-B-GONE, Me, myself and I am in control at that stupid bank. ANd, yes, I know, change banks. I am doing that.

    Cheers, Monte.

  31. So let me get this straight: only the purest of heart can now blog? You do realize we can dig up something harmful about almost anyone doing a blog today. This was exactly Gizmodo’s defense today, attacking instead of explaining.

    We should keep blogger’s past actions in mind when reading their posts (or even boycott them if we find them that offensive). But we can’t silence criticism just because of an unrelated past grievance. I see every post attacking Scoble here as a way to move the discussion off topic and help Gizmodo weather the storm.

  32. So let me get this straight: only the purest of heart can now blog? You do realize we can dig up something harmful about almost anyone doing a blog today. This was exactly Gizmodo’s defense today, attacking instead of explaining.

    We should keep blogger’s past actions in mind when reading their posts (or even boycott them if we find them that offensive). But we can’t silence criticism just because of an unrelated past grievance. I see every post attacking Scoble here as a way to move the discussion off topic and help Gizmodo weather the storm.

  33. Scoble: Why do you keep insisting on bringing up what Facebook does to Gmail as if it somehow justifies YOUR actions. You argument is the equivalent of saying that its okay to steal a million dollars from someone who stole a million dollars from someone else. Just because someone is a thief doesn’t mean that your thievery is justified.

    To your point about the gmail script, you obviously don’t understand the technology involved yourself. Gmail keeps your contacts in one list that can be viewed on a very few screens, therefore to screen scrape that data takes a very limited number of server hits. Facebook does not keep your friends e-mail addresses and birthdays on one easy to access page like your gmail contact list. So in order to scrape that data takes many more page hits.

    But again, thats not the point, you are trying to justify your wrong action by declaring the actions of the person you committed the wrong act.

    Lets take it even further then robbery, someone murders someone, is it then okay to murder them because they murdered someone else? Of course not, but you’re saying that because someone did something you can do it to them. That is dishonest, and its not a justification, but you can think I’m a troll all you want for pointing out your clear logical fallacy and hypocrisy.

    Finally, how does Facebook buying Plaxo excuse your actions, this has never been about what Facebook does and always about what you yourself do.

  34. Scoble: Why do you keep insisting on bringing up what Facebook does to Gmail as if it somehow justifies YOUR actions. You argument is the equivalent of saying that its okay to steal a million dollars from someone who stole a million dollars from someone else. Just because someone is a thief doesn’t mean that your thievery is justified.

    To your point about the gmail script, you obviously don’t understand the technology involved yourself. Gmail keeps your contacts in one list that can be viewed on a very few screens, therefore to screen scrape that data takes a very limited number of server hits. Facebook does not keep your friends e-mail addresses and birthdays on one easy to access page like your gmail contact list. So in order to scrape that data takes many more page hits.

    But again, thats not the point, you are trying to justify your wrong action by declaring the actions of the person you committed the wrong act.

    Lets take it even further then robbery, someone murders someone, is it then okay to murder them because they murdered someone else? Of course not, but you’re saying that because someone did something you can do it to them. That is dishonest, and its not a justification, but you can think I’m a troll all you want for pointing out your clear logical fallacy and hypocrisy.

    Finally, how does Facebook buying Plaxo excuse your actions, this has never been about what Facebook does and always about what you yourself do.

  35. graywolf: I wasn’t pretending to be doing journalism. I was doing alpha testing of a new feature that was going to come out from Plaxo.

    I wasn’t the one who chose to get kicked out of Facebook and when I did I reported it pretty straightly, even owning up to my own breaking of the Facebook TOS.

    Funny that now Facebook is buying Plaxo, at least that’s what it looks like.

    Glad you can see the difference between what I did and what Gizmodo did. Sigh. The two aren’t even in the same UNIVERSE. But this kind of bull is what I’ve come to expect of you. Troll.

  36. graywolf: I wasn’t pretending to be doing journalism. I was doing alpha testing of a new feature that was going to come out from Plaxo.

    I wasn’t the one who chose to get kicked out of Facebook and when I did I reported it pretty straightly, even owning up to my own breaking of the Facebook TOS.

    Funny that now Facebook is buying Plaxo, at least that’s what it looks like.

    Glad you can see the difference between what I did and what Gizmodo did. Sigh. The two aren’t even in the same UNIVERSE. But this kind of bull is what I’ve come to expect of you. Troll.

  37. calling gizmodo-gate not real journalism and part of the stuntosphere?

    Dude were you around last week when you were ringmaster of the stuntosphere with your plaxo data scraping script?

    I mean all of your fan boys may lap up the table scraps drivel and hang on your every word, but the real people see right through your hypocritical double talk, it’s comical really

  38. calling gizmodo-gate not real journalism and part of the stuntosphere?

    Dude were you around last week when you were ringmaster of the stuntosphere with your plaxo data scraping script?

    I mean all of your fan boys may lap up the table scraps drivel and hang on your every word, but the real people see right through your hypocritical double talk, it’s comical really

  39. Shaudius: you’re absolutely wrong and we’ve covered this before. In no way did what I do do harm to Facebook’s servers and anyone who claims that is a total idiot and has no clue about the technical details involved. In fact, looks like Facebook is now buying Plaxo and will likely incorporate that same script. So there. Not to mention that Facebook already runs almost the exact same script on Gmail. Why aren’t you crying about all the “harm” that Facebook puts on Gmail’s servers? I notice you didn’t do that, so you, sir, are an idiot and a troll. Have a nice day.

  40. Shaudius: you’re absolutely wrong and we’ve covered this before. In no way did what I do do harm to Facebook’s servers and anyone who claims that is a total idiot and has no clue about the technical details involved. In fact, looks like Facebook is now buying Plaxo and will likely incorporate that same script. So there. Not to mention that Facebook already runs almost the exact same script on Gmail. Why aren’t you crying about all the “harm” that Facebook puts on Gmail’s servers? I notice you didn’t do that, so you, sir, are an idiot and a troll. Have a nice day.

  41. Sal: I think he’s more commenting on Scoble’s hypocrisy as he conducted a stunt very recently and is now effectively suggesting people boycott Gizmodo, he’s more than a messenger in this case, he’s attempting to be an activist, so absolutely his past actions should be questioned when determining whether his advice should be followed.

  42. Sal: I think he’s more commenting on Scoble’s hypocrisy as he conducted a stunt very recently and is now effectively suggesting people boycott Gizmodo, he’s more than a messenger in this case, he’s attempting to be an activist, so absolutely his past actions should be questioned when determining whether his advice should be followed.

  43. “Robert: of course it was a stunt. But it was one with an editorial purpose (to get Facebook to change its stance — it does data sucking, but no data sharing, which is wrong) and it didn’t hurt Facebook’s ability to do business.”

    Again, thats the rub now isn’t it? You did hurt Facebook’s ability to do business, so what if it was on a small scale? Automating a script in violation of their TOS hurts their business if only on a small scale, no amount of hand waving changes that.

    So its okay to break the rules or interrupt a company as long as it has an editorial purpose? Thanks for letting me know, so I guess its okay to conduct a DDOS attack against a company(not saying thats what you did, just logically extending the argument) as long as it has an editorial purpose?

    Stunts are stunts, and interrupting business is interrupting business and hypocrisy is hypocrisy.

  44. “Robert: of course it was a stunt. But it was one with an editorial purpose (to get Facebook to change its stance — it does data sucking, but no data sharing, which is wrong) and it didn’t hurt Facebook’s ability to do business.”

    Again, thats the rub now isn’t it? You did hurt Facebook’s ability to do business, so what if it was on a small scale? Automating a script in violation of their TOS hurts their business if only on a small scale, no amount of hand waving changes that.

    So its okay to break the rules or interrupt a company as long as it has an editorial purpose? Thanks for letting me know, so I guess its okay to conduct a DDOS attack against a company(not saying thats what you did, just logically extending the argument) as long as it has an editorial purpose?

    Stunts are stunts, and interrupting business is interrupting business and hypocrisy is hypocrisy.

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