Twitter integration the new shiznit

Lots of systems are integrating into Twitter. The Qik.com live cell phone streaming system lets me tell my Twitter followers that I’m sending live streaming video. I just hit “55″ on my phone and it automatically sends a message to Twitter.

Now Kyte.tv is doing the same thing.

Twitter could become the new presence infrastructure company if this trend continues. You might never even read Twitter but Twitter could pass messages between systems to tell various apps and services when you’re online, or when you’re available.

How does Twitter turn that into a business? That’s the $64,000 question, isn’t it?

Also, Twitter has had a lot of uptime problems lately. If they are going to be used as infrastructure by more companies their reliability has to improve.

Comments

  1. Their downtime seems destined to be remedied. TechCrunch is reporting that Twitter has dumped Joyent as its hosting provider, swtiching to Verio. Japanese telco NTT owns Verio in full.

  2. Their downtime seems destined to be remedied. TechCrunch is reporting that Twitter has dumped Joyent as its hosting provider, swtiching to Verio. Japanese telco NTT owns Verio in full.

  3. Except as you know in numerous contacts from your followers (including me)– your hitting 55 puts a generic message in the Twitter stream with no information to convey the subject of the uploaded video.

    What’s easy for you but is mostly annoying, repetitive, bordering on spam for your followers.

    I notice a number of other people doing this as well, making Twitter much less useful not more in my opinion.

    I am hoping you do not promote this mostly useless feature more until it gets a little more friendly at the consuming end.

  4. Except as you know in numerous contacts from your followers (including me)– your hitting 55 puts a generic message in the Twitter stream with no information to convey the subject of the uploaded video.

    What’s easy for you but is mostly annoying, repetitive, bordering on spam for your followers.

    I notice a number of other people doing this as well, making Twitter much less useful not more in my opinion.

    I am hoping you do not promote this mostly useless feature more until it gets a little more friendly at the consuming end.

  5. all twitter has going for it is an install base, there’s no added functionality (which, granted, is why a lot of people like it). if they don’t capitalize on their user base by making their functionality more diverse (parsing how they handle bacn from other sites with better use of hash tags or threaded conversations) any app that becomes more popular can just integrate twitter-style APBs in their own 1st party flavor and they won’t need to worry about making money from just that small piece of functionality.

  6. all twitter has going for it is an install base, there’s no added functionality (which, granted, is why a lot of people like it). if they don’t capitalize on their user base by making their functionality more diverse (parsing how they handle bacn from other sites with better use of hash tags or threaded conversations) any app that becomes more popular can just integrate twitter-style APBs in their own 1st party flavor and they won’t need to worry about making money from just that small piece of functionality.

  7. Those Qik messages will eventually kill Twitter, much like application spam has killed the Facebook news feed.

    Its noise and from what Tweetscan tells me, not appreciated by your followers.

  8. Those Qik messages will eventually kill Twitter, much like application spam has killed the Facebook news feed.

    Its noise and from what Tweetscan tells me, not appreciated by your followers.

  9. Hey Rob, I un-followed you on Twitter because I got sick of the stupid mindless Qik tweets that included no useful information about what you were streaming.

  10. Hey Rob, I un-followed you on Twitter because I got sick of the stupid mindless Qik tweets that included no useful information about what you were streaming.

  11. Tim: I hear you. I’m not automatically sending Qik messages anymore. Only when I have a really important session. Also, they are working on giving me ability to write a few words in before I start the stream.

  12. Tim: I hear you. I’m not automatically sending Qik messages anymore. Only when I have a really important session. Also, they are working on giving me ability to write a few words in before I start the stream.

  13. I had never thought of it until I read your post but I wonder if Twitter could make money on the back end by delivering information like pictures and video.

    So for example, I take a video of something with my phone (I can’t do that without 3rd party add ons…thank you Apple…but lets pretend). Then I want to send it to friends. If twitter could write themselves a way to accept that type of input they could convert it to a Cell. Phone friendly format and then deliver it in a way that other people’s cell phones could view (placing a small ad at the beginning or end to make money)

    It would take a lot of work though but it would be revolutionary if they could make it happen. They are going to have to come up with something else at this point because I just don’t think “ads in everyone’s feed” is going to pay the bills when all is said and done.

    Anyway, just a weird thought that occurred to me but with most people having multimedia phones I think it would be interesting if they moved

  14. I had never thought of it until I read your post but I wonder if Twitter could make money on the back end by delivering information like pictures and video.

    So for example, I take a video of something with my phone (I can’t do that without 3rd party add ons…thank you Apple…but lets pretend). Then I want to send it to friends. If twitter could write themselves a way to accept that type of input they could convert it to a Cell. Phone friendly format and then deliver it in a way that other people’s cell phones could view (placing a small ad at the beginning or end to make money)

    It would take a lot of work though but it would be revolutionary if they could make it happen. They are going to have to come up with something else at this point because I just don’t think “ads in everyone’s feed” is going to pay the bills when all is said and done.

    Anyway, just a weird thought that occurred to me but with most people having multimedia phones I think it would be interesting if they moved

  15. Robert, I greatly appreciate the fact that you are no longer doing constant tweets from Qik and Seesmic. As one of the ones who complained, I feel it’s important to say “thank you” for respecting our wishes.

    So…thank you!

    -Erica

  16. Robert, I greatly appreciate the fact that you are no longer doing constant tweets from Qik and Seesmic. As one of the ones who complained, I feel it’s important to say “thank you” for respecting our wishes.

    So…thank you!

    -Erica

  17. What you’re describing is akin to what enterprises call their enterprise service bus (ESB). So a nice name for it would be Social Service Bus, or SSB. What would be nice than is that you can subscribe to someones services, (just like programs tend to do in an ESB) like: I want to receive roberts Tweets and his Qik messages, but am not interested in the other services that are accompanied with Robert.

  18. What you’re describing is akin to what enterprises call their enterprise service bus (ESB). So a nice name for it would be Social Service Bus, or SSB. What would be nice than is that you can subscribe to someones services, (just like programs tend to do in an ESB) like: I want to receive roberts Tweets and his Qik messages, but am not interested in the other services that are accompanied with Robert.

  19. I am so happy you shared this with everyone! The expression on everyone’s face is priceless when you show them what is going on. I have plans for this in a couple weeks too at a convention I am attending! Great coverage at Davos.

    Also, if anyone interested and there are some tablet folks still out there, here’s a contest I posted on my blog to enter for a free tablet from Tablet Kiosk. You just need a little skill to design a new logo for the TabletPC2 website to be in the running.

    http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2008/02/win-sahara-i440d-sahara-tablet-pc.html

  20. I am so happy you shared this with everyone! The expression on everyone’s face is priceless when you show them what is going on. I have plans for this in a couple weeks too at a convention I am attending! Great coverage at Davos.

    Also, if anyone interested and there are some tablet folks still out there, here’s a contest I posted on my blog to enter for a free tablet from Tablet Kiosk. You just need a little skill to design a new logo for the TabletPC2 website to be in the running.

    http://ducknetweb.blogspot.com/2008/02/win-sahara-i440d-sahara-tablet-pc.html

  21. Groan. More Twitter spam.

    Yah all live in your little owns worlds, sea monkeys trapped in a bowl of eventual doom.

  22. Groan. More Twitter spam.

    Yah all live in your little owns worlds, sea monkeys trapped in a bowl of eventual doom.

  23. I honestly believe that we are seeing too many “like” services. I cannot see how any one of these is going to be the “one”. I for one don’t like having myriad apps running on my laptop.

    I’m happy enough with RSS, email, and IM.

  24. I honestly believe that we are seeing too many “like” services. I cannot see how any one of these is going to be the “one”. I for one don’t like having myriad apps running on my laptop.

    I’m happy enough with RSS, email, and IM.

  25. Interesting conversation around the Twitter integration topic. It just so happens that Twitter went down after we deployed the release that included this feature (http://tinyurl.com/2jnvez), so it got me thinking about the interdependencies of services that leverage third-party APIs. On the plus side – and the reason we did the Twitter integration – is it allows those of our users who are also Twitter users, to notify their Twitter friends when they create a new Kyte show. The possible downside, as we saw with the outage, is that one of our features is dependent on a service we have no control over. At the end of the day though, the user benefits far out way the risks. At least we think so.

    @Tom, regarding your thoughts on Twitter delivering Video and Pictures, that is exactly what Kyte does. And now with Twitter integration you can deliver them over Twitter. Well, you can’t really deliver Video and Pictures, but you can deliver a link to the video or pictures you just produced on Kyte.

    This first Twitter integration we’ve done is very basic and rudimentary, and a kind of all or nothing approach. Basically you can set up your Kyte channel to send a tweet each time you produce a Kyte show, or turn it off completely. Not a lot of flexibility, and potentially annoying if you produce a lot of shows. Our next version will give you more control and flexibility, allowing you to send a tweet and customize it – or not – on a per show basis.

  26. Interesting conversation around the Twitter integration topic. It just so happens that Twitter went down after we deployed the release that included this feature (http://tinyurl.com/2jnvez), so it got me thinking about the interdependencies of services that leverage third-party APIs. On the plus side – and the reason we did the Twitter integration – is it allows those of our users who are also Twitter users, to notify their Twitter friends when they create a new Kyte show. The possible downside, as we saw with the outage, is that one of our features is dependent on a service we have no control over. At the end of the day though, the user benefits far out way the risks. At least we think so.

    @Tom, regarding your thoughts on Twitter delivering Video and Pictures, that is exactly what Kyte does. And now with Twitter integration you can deliver them over Twitter. Well, you can’t really deliver Video and Pictures, but you can deliver a link to the video or pictures you just produced on Kyte.

    This first Twitter integration we’ve done is very basic and rudimentary, and a kind of all or nothing approach. Basically you can set up your Kyte channel to send a tweet each time you produce a Kyte show, or turn it off completely. Not a lot of flexibility, and potentially annoying if you produce a lot of shows. Our next version will give you more control and flexibility, allowing you to send a tweet and customize it – or not – on a per show basis.

  27. Robert your thoughts on twitter are interesting – but I think it is more likely that it will be something like the XMPP protocol that will be used to link these things together. I get my tweets via google talk which is based on XMPP – and Google are also integrating this into Android as the communication mechanism from phone to phone and phone to server in addition to user to user.

    Twitter are showing how this sort of broadcasting can work but I think that a decentralised structure like XMPP will become important especially when you look at Twitter’s stability issues.

  28. Robert your thoughts on twitter are interesting – but I think it is more likely that it will be something like the XMPP protocol that will be used to link these things together. I get my tweets via google talk which is based on XMPP – and Google are also integrating this into Android as the communication mechanism from phone to phone and phone to server in addition to user to user.

    Twitter are showing how this sort of broadcasting can work but I think that a decentralised structure like XMPP will become important especially when you look at Twitter’s stability issues.

  29. Everybody seems to be having fun with Twitter integration. There’s just so many great ideas that seem to be coming out daily.

    I would be great to see Twitter make it on their own rather than become part of MicroYahBook or whatever.

  30. Everybody seems to be having fun with Twitter integration. There’s just so many great ideas that seem to be coming out daily.

    I would be great to see Twitter make it on their own rather than become part of MicroYahBook or whatever.