Flickr’s fourth birthday “adults only”

Heh, this happened to my wife and I at another tech company’s party last year when we tried to come in with our 4-month old. The venue informed us no minors. The laws in California apparently require a venue to serve food in addition to alcohol if they want to let kids in..

I can kinda see it when it comes to a teenager, but a 4-month old in a bjorn?

So you’ve moved to SmugMug, because you couldn’t get into a party. Doesn’t really make much sense. It’s not like the website changed, and no longer invites families. The site is still the same

Robert, I don’t don’t know about the official Flickr invitationtion but the event description on upcoming.org clearly stated that this was a 21 and over venue:
http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/428084/

“Please note that this venue is 21 and above. You’ll need photo ID to gain admittance at the door.”

Was this inconsistent with the official Flickr invite?

Moving to SmugMug, on account of a party dis-invite? Callous display of ego, as most events DON’T cover families, insurance costs are too high, blame the sue-happy lawyers, plus easier per drinks and all, no ID checking. And don’t blame them if you didn’t read the instructions, I didn’t even go or care, yet I knew, I saw it on upcoming like everyone else.

Check that ego at the doro too.

I’m as big a fan of sushi as anyone, but we’ve all got to become more aware of what our habits are doing environmentally speaking. We’re decimating the bluefin tuna. See here for more:
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=the-bluefin-in-peril

Chris and others: this has been coming a long time, tonight just was the straw that pushed my scale over. You might watch my video with the SmugMug folks: http://www.podtech.net/scobleshow/technology/1706/smugmug-brings-us-mugnormous-photos-and-videos (read the comments there, and you’ll see a consistent theme).

MikeD: yeah, the email didn’t mention that. I didn’t know I was supposed to check the Upcoming site for more rules.

SmugMug seems to be a great service and I sure like their business profile. It’s good there’s an alternative. But I’m far from dumping Flickr. I love Flickr.

Sorry to hear you didn’t make it in, would have liked to say hi.

Actually, the cupcakes at the flickr party were fantastic. Don’t slag the flickr food.

Though hardly dinner. We also went for sushi later.

Thomas: they gave us cupcakes and T-shirts as consolation prizes. The cupcakes were pretty good, have to admit. It’s probably good that they didn’t let me in, cause I would have had three of them, at least. Not good for my weight problem.

everyone who could read knew it was for people over 21 so it seems uncool that you choose to slag them off when you made a mistake

but they gave you cupcakes and t shirts even tho you had made the mistake.

yeah what a horrible bunch of people i’d ditch flickr for that
what a hprrible company for holding a free party with cupcakes and tshirts, for users, not tech people but users of a product.

oh and stewart has been away for months not weeks

supervery: I’ll send you the email invite they sent me. I didn’t know. If I had known, I wouldn’t have driven to San Francisco. My son gets access to lots of parties and events. This is the first time he’s been sent packing.

For instance, MySpace invited me to a concert party in San Francisco a couple of weeks from now and they said Patrick could come.

I used to plan conferences and one year we even had a 12-year-old pay his own way for a programming conference and attend with his dad.

Blame U.S. law, not Flickr.

Like everyone said above, looks to me like you just want an excuse to pump your new site and dis another. Although you may say no hard feelings towards Flickr you sure are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill and bring more press to your self. Glad to see you’re on the “Ego” list over at
Alltop.

Did it ever occur to you, that there are folks who don’t want to attend “family-friendly” events? As someone who made a choice not to have kids, I’m glad for the few opportunities I get to go somewhere and have adult conversations, and even a drink, without having small children run around.

Sorry you were offended, but personally, your comparison of Smugmug’s office with the Flickr party makes me much more likely to use Flickr. (It actually makes me want to never work for SmugMug)

Not everyone is looking for the ability to take their kids everywhere.

Mike: did you realize that Ansel Adams two best photos were taken with his kids in tow?

If you want an adult night out, go to a Playboy party.

Photography should be a family affair and you should expect to have kids involved.

Not to mention that my son isn’t your usual kid and is very respectful of adults. Even last night he didn’t get involved in trying to get into the party and waited quietly outside.

Wolf: Flickr has a wide variety of choices where to spend its marketing money. Only a handful of venues decide to be adult only.

Robert,

So you’re suggesting that my desire to not have children around means I want to go to something like a Playboy party? Nice of you to make that assumption about me, really. I appreciate that.

As for the rest of your comment back, well I have counter points, but I’m not going to waste my time here any further if that’s the way I’m going to be treated.

Mike: yes, that’s exactly what I’m suggesting. Playboy is a brand for adults. If you say you don’t want my son around because you want to be “child free” then that’s an attack on me and my family. Have a nice day.

Know what… that’s Flickr’s loss (and one more negative bit added to their brand imho). Flickr lost me, for good, when they continued to make boneheaded decisions about copyrights of others and kept taking the wrong side of the arguments. (yes, learned about these first through Thomas H)

Now, I just put my stuff up on my .Mac gallery and call it a day. I don’t need a bunch of social umpf behind my photo sharing. Just access control and latitude to do what I want to (within reason). Still wishing for RAW support… someday maybe.

To attack Flickr for having an “adults only” party is pretty ridiculous, especially since it sounds like it was initially advertised as 21+, it was a venue policy, and even after you went anyway they gave you cupcakes and shirts. I’m not sure what else you want Flickr to do to accommodate you. If Flickr wants to have their party at a place like that which serves alcohol and disallows minors, then they can do so.

You shouldn’t expect to be able to take children everywhere, that’s the reality of our society. To suggest that someone who wants to have a party without children should go to a Playboy party is pretty ridiculous. That’s the same as me telling you to go to Chuck E. Cheese if you want to have a party with Children involved.

People often like doing things with other adults for a variety of reasons.

It is not an attack on you to INVITE you to a child free event. You don’t have to go. It’s their event, you may be an “A list” blogger, but not everything is created with your specific interests in mind. Just because someone doesn’t want to spend their leisure time hanging out with other people’s children doesn’t mean they dislike them or are attacking them or dislike or are attacking the parents of said children.

Also, your son might not be a “usual” kid, but there could be a lot of “usual” kids out there who could spoil such an event.

You’re missing the point. The invite I got didn’t say a damn thing about being “adult only.” And, it’s inappropriate for a photo sharing site (that bans adult content, by the way) to only appeal its marketing to adults anyway. Photography is a family affair. If this were a Playboy party, I’d understand. Flickr is something that is bigger than that, in my mind.

If the invite I had received said “adults only, thanks” then I’d probably agree with you. It didn’t. Should I send you the email?

If flickr bans adult content, they do a very poor job of it. There’s porn all over the place there

In fact, having read the community guidelines and yahoo’s TOS, I see nothing to back up your claim. More spouting about things you’re not sure about?