Rackspace goes “Mosso” for developers

Stuff found on table at new Rackspace headquarters

Rob La Gesse is totally becoming a raving lunatic about Rackspace’s new “Mosso” hosting cloud.

This is a company the industry could easily underestimate for a long time. After all, it’s in San Antonio, Texas. What kind of technology ever gets invented in San Antonio, right? (Um, ask this guy, he was Vice President on the team that developed the Intel 8008 chip in the building where Rackspace is currently located, which was the first chip along the line that today is in our computers). Anyway, the point is that because Rackspace isn’t in Seattle or Silicon Valley that it is pretty ignored. It’s a huge mistake for its competitors to make.

Anyway, back to Rackspace and Mosso. Anyone else using it? Are your experiences the same as Rob’s?

Where’s Google and Microsoft in this cloud game in comparison?

  • http://futureofmicrosoft.spaces.live.com/ Samir Shah

    Intel 4004 was the first microprocessor. Intel 8008 was ONE of the first.

  • http://futureofmicrosoft.spaces.live.com Samir Shah

    Intel 4004 was the first microprocessor. Intel 8008 was ONE of the first.

  • http://mbrewergroup.com mbrewer

    Who is the Texas Tech Fan?

    Sorry this has nothing to do with the post itself.

    I played basketball at Tech back in the early 90′s.

    Have an amazing day. M

  • http://mbrewer.typepad.com/property_management/ Mike

    Who is the Texas Tech Fan?

    Sorry this has nothing to do with the post itself.

    I played basketball at Tech back in the early 90′s.

    Have an amazing day. M

  • http://www.timothyfletcher.com/ Tim Fletcher

    All of you go to bed NOW!

  • http://www.timothyfletcher.com Tim Fletcher

    All of you go to bed NOW!

  • http://hauntingthunder.wordpress.com/ Maurice

    you know having a hosting company not based near the San Andreas Fault or volcanos Kinda makes sense :-)

  • http://hauntingthunder.wordpress.com/ Maurice

    you know having a hosting company not based near the San Andreas Fault or volcanos Kinda makes sense :-)

  • Chris

    I thought Mosso look great too until I opened an account only to be told by Mosso customer support that their system could not support a multisite Drupal installation. I was shocked…almost any hosting provider can do this – but not Mosso apparently. Obviously there are some serious limitations in order to achieve what they promise. Looked better on paper. I closed my account.

  • Chris

    I thought Mosso look great too until I opened an account only to be told by Mosso customer support that their system could not support a multisite Drupal installation. I was shocked…almost any hosting provider can do this – but not Mosso apparently. Obviously there are some serious limitations in order to achieve what they promise. Looked better on paper. I closed my account.

  • Jacob

    I’ve been using Mosso for a little more than a year now, and Rob is spot on – they do, indeed, rock.

    However, in his observations that you can have your apps talking natively with both Windows and Linux db servers, he’s only scratched the surface of what that platform is capable of. On their service, you can have native windows .NET apps working hand-in-hand with native linux PHP apps (I’ve done some development along those lines)… which is pretty much impossible anywhere else.

    Cool, crazy stuff, indeed. Plus, it’s really grown into a very solid hosting environment.

  • Jacob

    I’ve been using Mosso for a little more than a year now, and Rob is spot on – they do, indeed, rock.

    However, in his observations that you can have your apps talking natively with both Windows and Linux db servers, he’s only scratched the surface of what that platform is capable of. On their service, you can have native windows .NET apps working hand-in-hand with native linux PHP apps (I’ve done some development along those lines)… which is pretty much impossible anywhere else.

    Cool, crazy stuff, indeed. Plus, it’s really grown into a very solid hosting environment.

  • Peter Lewis

    As a resident of SA, I just wanted to point out NUMEROUS technological advances come from our great city, we just get overlooked due to the fact we do not have a rich artistic culture in the city. (Culture is alive an well down here… but it is of the hispanic nature… ever been to the River Walk?)

    Anyway, Rackspace is a huge company, and is expanding as we speek. Microsoft also has a HUGE datacenter down here, and the NSA took over the old Sony fabrication plant.

    Next time you are in Texas, instead of sticking to Austin, you should swing by SA… you will be pleasently surprised.

  • Peter Lewis

    As a resident of SA, I just wanted to point out NUMEROUS technological advances come from our great city, we just get overlooked due to the fact we do not have a rich artistic culture in the city. (Culture is alive an well down here… but it is of the hispanic nature… ever been to the River Walk?)

    Anyway, Rackspace is a huge company, and is expanding as we speek. Microsoft also has a HUGE datacenter down here, and the NSA took over the old Sony fabrication plant.

    Next time you are in Texas, instead of sticking to Austin, you should swing by SA… you will be pleasently surprised.

  • Anonymous

    Mosso doesn’t do Windows like a windows box… you can’t administer the thing, add accounts, join it to our domain, etc.

    I want somewhere I can put a VMware image and run it… preferably for $20/month or so for low usage. Speed is not an issue… I don’t care if I only get 128 Mb of RAM and 100 Mhz of CPU.

  • http://mikewarot.blogspot.com Mike Warot

    Mosso doesn’t do Windows like a windows box… you can’t administer the thing, add accounts, join it to our domain, etc.

    I want somewhere I can put a VMware image and run it… preferably for $20/month or so for low usage. Speed is not an issue… I don’t care if I only get 128 Mb of RAM and 100 Mhz of CPU.

  • http://www.kinlane.com kinlane

    I have a custom developed framework that I develop to cater to my customers.

    My version 3.0 is classic ASP / Windows 2k and my version 4.0 is LAMP.

    I am moving everything to Mosso.com. It is awesome.

    They have had their issues in account setups, and a couple of spinouts. But their customer support makes up for it…they are very responsive and friendly. Right at my finger tips on chat through my account.

    It allows me to have a customer billing / login area automatically. Also my wife and business partner can setup new sites without me.

    I highly recommen Mosso….I am consolidating 5+ server garden to be all mosso.

  • http://www.kinlane.com Kin Lane

    I have a custom developed framework that I develop to cater to my customers.

    My version 3.0 is classic ASP / Windows 2k and my version 4.0 is LAMP.

    I am moving everything to Mosso.com. It is awesome.

    They have had their issues in account setups, and a couple of spinouts. But their customer support makes up for it…they are very responsive and friendly. Right at my finger tips on chat through my account.

    It allows me to have a customer billing / login area automatically. Also my wife and business partner can setup new sites without me.

    I highly recommen Mosso….I am consolidating 5+ server garden to be all mosso.

  • http://www.mikejsolutions.com/ Mike Johnston

    Used Mosso for a year. It literally crashed and burned every week. It is an awful implementation of a great theory. The reality is that is just does not work.

  • http://www.mikejsolutions.com Mike Johnston

    Used Mosso for a year. It literally crashed and burned every week. It is an awful implementation of a great theory. The reality is that is just does not work.

  • http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/ Andy Beal

    I have both a Rackspace server and a Mosso account. Be careful not to assume that Mosso will be as reliable as Rackspace, it’s not. That said, it’s about 1/6 the cost I would have paid Rackspace for the same set-up.

  • http://www.marketingpilgrim.com Andy Beal

    I have both a Rackspace server and a Mosso account. Be careful not to assume that Mosso will be as reliable as Rackspace, it’s not. That said, it’s about 1/6 the cost I would have paid Rackspace for the same set-up.

  • Nully

    Thanks for pointing this out, it’s exactly the type of service and pricing I’ve looking for my customers. As far as M$ and Google in this space… I will never support either of them in it. They need to stick to their core businesses and leave some space for the rest of us. Do no evil, right?

  • Nully

    Thanks for pointing this out, it’s exactly the type of service and pricing I’ve looking for my customers. As far as M$ and Google in this space… I will never support either of them in it. They need to stick to their core businesses and leave some space for the rest of us. Do no evil, right?

  • http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/ Don MacAskill

    Hadn’t heard about Mosso until just now. You know, it seems strange – I’m linked to and quoted in just about every article about Cloud Computing these days because of our use of S3 and EC2… And yet, none of the other cloud computing companies even bother to tell us they have a competing offering.

    Earth to companies: I can’t pay you money if you don’t tell me you exist.

    Just pinged Mosso, sounds interesting. They claim “unlimited scaling” but then mention 100,000 visitors/month. Wonder what they’ll do when I tell them we’re many millions of visitors/month and billions of requests/month. Guess we’ll find out… :)

  • http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/ Don MacAskill

    Hadn’t heard about Mosso until just now. You know, it seems strange – I’m linked to and quoted in just about every article about Cloud Computing these days because of our use of S3 and EC2… And yet, none of the other cloud computing companies even bother to tell us they have a competing offering.

    Earth to companies: I can’t pay you money if you don’t tell me you exist.

    Just pinged Mosso, sounds interesting. They claim “unlimited scaling” but then mention 100,000 visitors/month. Wonder what they’ll do when I tell them we’re many millions of visitors/month and billions of requests/month. Guess we’ll find out… :)

  • Mosso Reseller

    Mosso too expensive? If anyone is interested in sharing the cost of Mosso with me, I’d be willing to set you up with one (or a few if needed) of the client accounts for a good price. Just need a few people to help offset my costs. I’m thinking $10 for me, plus the set fees at Mosso (for example, $5 for 100mb of MS SQL, etc). I can be flexible with price depending on what you’re looking for. I’m willing to set you up with unlimited email boxes and databases since they’re free anyway!

    Please contact me at MossoReseller at gmail.com if you’re interested.

  • Mosso Reseller

    Mosso too expensive? If anyone is interested in sharing the cost of Mosso with me, I’d be willing to set you up with one (or a few if needed) of the client accounts for a good price. Just need a few people to help offset my costs. I’m thinking $10 for me, plus the set fees at Mosso (for example, $5 for 100mb of MS SQL, etc). I can be flexible with price depending on what you’re looking for. I’m willing to set you up with unlimited email boxes and databases since they’re free anyway!

    Please contact me at MossoReseller at gmail.com if you’re interested.

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  • http://www.penguinsix.com/ Andrew Leyden

    I’m using Mosso for a bunch of sites and it is pretty reliable thus far, though I’m not really doing much on it. I think some have objected to the lack of a command line interface and other missing features.

    However, you really should take a look at Amazon EC2. That’s getting a lot of interesting reviews as it crawls out of beta. Several server hounds I know are using it for testing, standing up say 10 ‘images’ and then pounding them to simulate heavy load, replication, etc and then turning them off (and not getting stuck having to pay for anything more than the time they use).

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/browse.html?node=201590011

  • http://www.penguinsix.com/ Andrew Leyden

    I’m using Mosso for a bunch of sites and it is pretty reliable thus far, though I’m not really doing much on it. I think some have objected to the lack of a command line interface and other missing features.

    However, you really should take a look at Amazon EC2. That’s getting a lot of interesting reviews as it crawls out of beta. Several server hounds I know are using it for testing, standing up say 10 ‘images’ and then pounding them to simulate heavy load, replication, etc and then turning them off (and not getting stuck having to pay for anything more than the time they use).

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/browse.html?node=201590011

  • Aaron F

    Mosso can be VERY SLOW for .NET applications. We are an ex-customer and had to leave because of this. We’d love to go back, but they have to solve this problem first.

    The problem is that the hosted site goes into a “hibernate” mode when it is not frequently used (the app pool spins down). Waking up out of this “hibernate” mode takes an extremely long time (7000ms+ was not uncommon) – long enough to drive your users away big time.

    If you have a low volume site, then your site is going to “sleep” alot. So basically every user is going to have to wait for the site to “wake up”. For a small site trying to get build a customer base this is death.

    We stuck it for a few months because everything else was great and the price was nice. Ultimately however we had to leave because the performace was frustrating customers.

    Recently Mosso moved to IIS 7.0. I don’t know if this will help there situation or not, but it might be worth checking out. Be warned – you MUST use an external monitoring service with these guys to ensure you’re not killing yourself just to save a few bucks.

  • Aaron F

    Mosso can be VERY SLOW for .NET applications. We are an ex-customer and had to leave because of this. We’d love to go back, but they have to solve this problem first.

    The problem is that the hosted site goes into a “hibernate” mode when it is not frequently used (the app pool spins down). Waking up out of this “hibernate” mode takes an extremely long time (7000ms+ was not uncommon) – long enough to drive your users away big time.

    If you have a low volume site, then your site is going to “sleep” alot. So basically every user is going to have to wait for the site to “wake up”. For a small site trying to get build a customer base this is death.

    We stuck it for a few months because everything else was great and the price was nice. Ultimately however we had to leave because the performace was frustrating customers.

    Recently Mosso moved to IIS 7.0. I don’t know if this will help there situation or not, but it might be worth checking out. Be warned – you MUST use an external monitoring service with these guys to ensure you’re not killing yourself just to save a few bucks.

  • http://bazeley.net/blog Michael Bazeley

    Rackspace isn’t ignored at all. Actually, Rackspace is quite well-known in web hosting and web development circles as one of the top-tier web hosting companies (despite their recent outage issues). The start-up entrepreneurs in the valley may not know about them, but the guys and gals whose job it is to manage their servers do. When I needed to lease a dedicated server for the last company I worked for, they were the first company I called.

  • http://bazeley.net/blog Michael Bazeley

    Rackspace isn’t ignored at all. Actually, Rackspace is quite well-known in web hosting and web development circles as one of the top-tier web hosting companies (despite their recent outage issues). The start-up entrepreneurs in the valley may not know about them, but the guys and gals whose job it is to manage their servers do. When I needed to lease a dedicated server for the last company I worked for, they were the first company I called.

  • http://lagesse.org/ Rob La Gesse

    @ #18 – I don’t think anyone is suggesting that Rackspace isn’t known – even in the Valley. Mahalo uses Rackspace, as do a number of startups. MOSSO is something different though. I don;t think it is nearly as well known. I’ve had Rackspace servers for years, but never looked at MOSSO before last week.

    I just didn’t understand what it was.

  • http://lagesse.org Rob La Gesse

    @ #18 – I don’t think anyone is suggesting that Rackspace isn’t known – even in the Valley. Mahalo uses Rackspace, as do a number of startups. MOSSO is something different though. I don;t think it is nearly as well known. I’ve had Rackspace servers for years, but never looked at MOSSO before last week.

    I just didn’t understand what it was.

  • http://scobleizer.com/ Robert Scoble

    Rob: oh, Rackspace comes up here and there in conversations, but doesn’t dominate the tech world the way they would if they were where the tech press visited more often like Seattle or Silicon Valley.

  • http://scobleizer.com/ Robert Scoble

    Rob: oh, Rackspace comes up here and there in conversations, but doesn’t dominate the tech world the way they would if they were where the tech press visited more often like Seattle or Silicon Valley.

  • http://bazeley.net/blog Michael Bazeley

    By the way, Mosso looks a lot like MediaTemple’s Grid-Service. http://www.mediatemple.net/webhosting/gs/

  • http://bazeley.net/blog Michael Bazeley

    By the way, Mosso looks a lot like MediaTemple’s Grid-Service. http://www.mediatemple.net/webhosting/gs/

  • Will

    From what I’ve heard, Mosso does not do Windows particularly well. They run all their application pools without limits, meaning that one other client can take up all the resources on the box and they won’t know about it until it’s too late.

  • Will

    From what I’ve heard, Mosso does not do Windows particularly well. They run all their application pools without limits, meaning that one other client can take up all the resources on the box and they won’t know about it until it’s too late.

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  • http://thatisright.blogspot.com/ H. Michael Karshis

    Indeed! Mosso does in fact rock.

    HMK

  • http://thatisright.blogspot.com H. Michael Karshis

    Indeed! Mosso does in fact rock.

    HMK

  • http://www.vlab.org/article.html?aid=188 VLAB

    Hi all. Mosso’s Jonathan Bryce will be at the Stanford Business School on Tuesday June 17th @ 6:00pm on a cloud computing panel. If you’re interested here’s the link:

    http://www.vlab.org/article.html?aid=188