Ray Ozzie to Google: "Stay off my lawn"

Wow, my head is swimming — Microsoft’s Mesh is much bigger than I expected. I just got a look at Microsoft’s Mesh, but had to agree not to talk about it until 9 p.m. tonight. You’ll want to check in tonight. I hear Channel 9 will have a bunch of videos up about it. More to say at 9 p.m. Pacific Time tonight.

Comments

  1. Hmmm… I have a tough time taking seriously anyone who still thinks it’s “cool” or clever to use a dollar sign instead of an S in MS…

  2. Hmmm… I have a tough time taking seriously anyone who still thinks it’s “cool” or clever to use a dollar sign instead of an S in MS…

  3. Hey you, M$ is so entrenched in our culture you can not make it go away ever. I don’t care if you hate us for using M$ wherever M$ goes but fuck you, they deserved that for their own actions and that will remain M$ till the kingdom comes

    So M$ sucks? not my fault!

    M$ gained every inch of bad publicity all on their own.

  4. Hey you, M$ is so entrenched in our culture you can not make it go away ever. I don’t care if you hate us for using M$ wherever M$ goes but fuck you, they deserved that for their own actions and that will remain M$ till the kingdom comes

    So M$ sucks? not my fault!

    M$ gained every inch of bad publicity all on their own.

  5. Btw, M$ will never gain any trust from us again, no matter if they resurrect mother theresa or find the cure for cancer.

    I rather sniff asbestos up my nose!

  6. Btw, M$ will never gain any trust from us again, no matter if they resurrect mother theresa or find the cure for cancer.

    I rather sniff asbestos up my nose!

  7. With the feature-set of upcoming Fedora 9, SUSE 11 and ver 8 of U/Kubuntu, they better make Windows 7 hecko interesting. Linux has come of age, minus games, the masses can now live with a basic Fedora 8 KDE 3.5 install and that will really zam up once OpenOffice hits 3. Not that I am under any Linux-weenie lucid-dreaming illusions about a Microsoft-free world (though that’s increasingly more possible), but Vista sure was a letdown, though kinda looks pretty, Aeroified in that re-skin Mac-copycat way about it.

    I predict even SP1 won’t have a corporate impact, and the switchover will be in 7, so they will have to accelerate the push, shaving off a year or so, and sex-it-up early, starting now, which is what this announcement amounts to, Longhornish PDC 2003 era hype.

  8. With the feature-set of upcoming Fedora 9, SUSE 11 and ver 8 of U/Kubuntu, they better make Windows 7 hecko interesting. Linux has come of age, minus games, the masses can now live with a basic Fedora 8 KDE 3.5 install and that will really zam up once OpenOffice hits 3. Not that I am under any Linux-weenie lucid-dreaming illusions about a Microsoft-free world (though that’s increasingly more possible), but Vista sure was a letdown, though kinda looks pretty, Aeroified in that re-skin Mac-copycat way about it.

    I predict even SP1 won’t have a corporate impact, and the switchover will be in 7, so they will have to accelerate the push, shaving off a year or so, and sex-it-up early, starting now, which is what this announcement amounts to, Longhornish PDC 2003 era hype.

  9. Are you saying that Microsoft has Meshed itself, and is now going to Mesh up the internet? And is it true that Linus Torvalds is writing the kernel for Windows 7?

  10. Are you saying that Microsoft has Meshed itself, and is now going to Mesh up the internet? And is it true that Linus Torvalds is writing the kernel for Windows 7?

  11. Christopher Coulter, about Suse and KUbuntu, would you say Apple has anything to worry about too?

  12. Christopher Coulter, about Suse and KUbuntu, would you say Apple has anything to worry about too?

  13. Mesh is cool. I predict the initial recation will the the usual “Blitzbop.com has been doing this for 37 years so no news here…” That’s fine. But for those who pay attention you’ll see that Microsoft is re-thinking how software platforms should work. No, it’s not a Google killer, nor is it intended to be. It’s just the basis for a whole new breed of killer apps.

  14. Mesh is cool. I predict the initial recation will the the usual “Blitzbop.com has been doing this for 37 years so no news here…” That’s fine. But for those who pay attention you’ll see that Microsoft is re-thinking how software platforms should work. No, it’s not a Google killer, nor is it intended to be. It’s just the basis for a whole new breed of killer apps.

  15. Glad you’ve finally started paying attention Robert – you’ve missed all the build up on this so welcome to the party ;)

    And for those who aren’t so sure about what Microsoft can do in this space, I think you’ll be wanting to give Live Mesh a try.

  16. Glad you’ve finally started paying attention Robert – you’ve missed all the build up on this so welcome to the party ;)

    And for those who aren’t so sure about what Microsoft can do in this space, I think you’ll be wanting to give Live Mesh a try.

  17. Christopher Coulter, about Suse and KUbuntu, would you say Apple has anything to worry about too?

    Comment by skc — April 22, 2008 @ 2:10 pm

    No way, Apple has embraced the Internet and has nothing to worry about, they have their own search engine and Add program in place and are already competing with Google and will not fall by the wayside or an eventual take over target by Google.

    They have clearly embraced cloud computing and have moved away from the proprietary combination of software and hardware that is considered obsolete in this day and age.

    Thy will not make the same mistake again by ignoring a fast emerging market in the way that they blew their chance at the enterprise market.

    Please… are you serious?

  18. Christopher Coulter, about Suse and KUbuntu, would you say Apple has anything to worry about too?

    Comment by skc — April 22, 2008 @ 2:10 pm

    No way, Apple has embraced the Internet and has nothing to worry about, they have their own search engine and Add program in place and are already competing with Google and will not fall by the wayside or an eventual take over target by Google.

    They have clearly embraced cloud computing and have moved away from the proprietary combination of software and hardware that is considered obsolete in this day and age.

    Thy will not make the same mistake again by ignoring a fast emerging market in the way that they blew their chance at the enterprise market.

    Please… are you serious?

  19. @Joe – are you joking? Apple is poised to become the next Sony – the king of consumer electronics. If you look at end-user usage on Apple’s, they use Apple for music/pictures/music, they still use Microsoft Office for Mac, and then everything else is done online with Google. Because they’re positioned at the high-end of PCs they’ll be the last to get hurt by Google’s growth or by Open Source’s growth, but they will become increasingly marginalized as we do less & less on the device and more and more in the cloud.

  20. @Joe – are you joking? Apple is poised to become the next Sony – the king of consumer electronics. If you look at end-user usage on Apple’s, they use Apple for music/pictures/music, they still use Microsoft Office for Mac, and then everything else is done online with Google. Because they’re positioned at the high-end of PCs they’ll be the last to get hurt by Google’s growth or by Open Source’s growth, but they will become increasingly marginalized as we do less & less on the device and more and more in the cloud.

  21. Joe, lol.

    Glad u see what I was getting at. People are quick to say the various Linux distros are head and shoulders above XP or Vista, but as soon as you bring Mac OSX into the picture, they conveniently get very quiet. It’s odd. What Linux first has to do is beat the guy in second place. So far, they have nothing.

  22. Joe, lol.

    Glad u see what I was getting at. People are quick to say the various Linux distros are head and shoulders above XP or Vista, but as soon as you bring Mac OSX into the picture, they conveniently get very quiet. It’s odd. What Linux first has to do is beat the guy in second place. So far, they have nothing.

  23. Joe, lol.

    Glad u see what I was getting at. People are quick to say the various Linux distros are head and shoulders above XP or Vista, but as soon as you bring Mac OSX into the picture, they conveniently get very quiet. It’s odd. What Linux first has to do is beat the guy in second place. So far, they have nothing.

    Comment by skc — April 22, 2008

    I’m a fan of some things Apple.. but not all and I don’t turn a blind eye to serious flaws in some of their products.

    Vista had some hiccups at launch as expected. something that seems inevitable with such a large user base.

    But the product has come along nicely for the most part, No real security issues and very stable. and dare I say even more secure than Mac OSX.

    There’s a big double standard and lack of objectivity
    in the tech pundit world.

    But then again I’m a user of the product and I don’t try to generate traffic with controversy.

  24. Joe, lol.

    Glad u see what I was getting at. People are quick to say the various Linux distros are head and shoulders above XP or Vista, but as soon as you bring Mac OSX into the picture, they conveniently get very quiet. It’s odd. What Linux first has to do is beat the guy in second place. So far, they have nothing.

    Comment by skc — April 22, 2008

    I’m a fan of some things Apple.. but not all and I don’t turn a blind eye to serious flaws in some of their products.

    Vista had some hiccups at launch as expected. something that seems inevitable with such a large user base.

    But the product has come along nicely for the most part, No real security issues and very stable. and dare I say even more secure than Mac OSX.

    There’s a big double standard and lack of objectivity
    in the tech pundit world.

    But then again I’m a user of the product and I don’t try to generate traffic with controversy.

  25. I don’t get it when people say that they are going to ignore company X or platform Y. Surely you have to use whatever your customers demand you to use. If you’re just a customer – then surely you want to use the platform that has the most applications that make you productive. Anything else is just plain stoopid.

  26. I don’t get it when people say that they are going to ignore company X or platform Y. Surely you have to use whatever your customers demand you to use. If you’re just a customer – then surely you want to use the platform that has the most applications that make you productive. Anything else is just plain stoopid.

  27. I hope this includes something about Astoria. Google is telling developers, uh, you can’t do table JOINs, JOINs are so last year, and so is every language except for Python.

    Meanwhile Microsoft is telling my I can now do table JOINs in a *URL* using plain English, I don’t have to forget everything I know about relational database design, and I can hit that database using any language I want.

    Ray Ozzie isn’t saying “get off my lawn.” He’s saying “Commence Primary Ignition.” The Empire Strikes Back. LOL

  28. I hope this includes something about Astoria. Google is telling developers, uh, you can’t do table JOINs, JOINs are so last year, and so is every language except for Python.

    Meanwhile Microsoft is telling my I can now do table JOINs in a *URL* using plain English, I don’t have to forget everything I know about relational database design, and I can hit that database using any language I want.

    Ray Ozzie isn’t saying “get off my lawn.” He’s saying “Commence Primary Ignition.” The Empire Strikes Back. LOL

  29. Oh, hell, I can’t stand it. Read patents 7076521 and patent 6826744 and ask yourself where Microsoft goes from here when they have RSS nodes feeding a client that can’t consume what’s being fed. And yes Microsoft is being sued over infringing 6826744.

  30. Oh, hell, I can’t stand it. Read patents 7076521 and patent 6826744 and ask yourself where Microsoft goes from here when they have RSS nodes feeding a client that can’t consume what’s being fed. And yes Microsoft is being sued over infringing 6826744.