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	<title>Comments on: Off of the tech entertainment train</title>
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		<title>By: Alfabetic :: Chinese &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 加鏰改變</title>
		<link>http://scobleizer.com/2008/07/05/off-of-the-tech-entertainment-train/#comment-1996758</link>
		<dc:creator>Alfabetic :: Chinese &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 加鏰改變</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 14:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 沒有事情發生嗎？Techmeme會話已經絕跡了嗎，隨著Robert Scoble 興奮地下餌？是FriendFeed會話是更多的病毒和鏈結引導？當然，像這幾天遠離羊群，使怎樣變成狹隘的“新聞”清楚些。但是櫻桃開花來看我們在多久前來過後，讓我們安靜地使用。 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 沒有事情發生嗎？Techmeme會話已經絕跡了嗎，隨著Robert Scoble 興奮地下餌？是FriendFeed會話是更多的病毒和鏈結引導？當然，像這幾天遠離羊群，使怎樣變成狹隘的“新聞”清楚些。但是櫻桃開花來看我們在多久前來過後，讓我們安靜地使用。 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Simply Gadgets &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Plus ça change</title>
		<link>http://scobleizer.com/2008/07/05/off-of-the-tech-entertainment-train/#comment-1994474</link>
		<dc:creator>Simply Gadgets &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Plus ça change</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] nothing going on? Has the TechMeme conversation dried up, as Robert Scoble entertainingly baits? Are FriendFeed conversations more viral and link-inducing? Of course. There&#8217;s nothing like a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] nothing going on? Has the TechMeme conversation dried up, as Robert Scoble entertainingly baits? Are FriendFeed conversations more viral and link-inducing? Of course. There&#8217;s nothing like a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Lockley</title>
		<link>http://scobleizer.com/2008/07/05/off-of-the-tech-entertainment-train/#comment-1991888</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake Lockley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My bad. Maybe I should clarify my issues a bit. To me dialogue is more about detailed discussions than comments. Or maybe I just need better friends but even your Friendfeed is full of more comments than conversations or discussions. When I look for dialogue I look for conversations where anyone can control where the conversation goes. I look for a thoughtful exchange of ideas and knowledge that builds upon one another. The medium may allow for that but most of what is out there is simply comments. The importance of dialogue (to me) is that it engages people in an exchange that leads people to learn from one another through iterative discussions (like this). Thanks for the reply, it's the best way to disprove my point. In short, I yearn for more elaboration of ideas than simple comments.  You know, people who explain their premises and the conclusions to which they lead and are open to engaging others others in debating them so everyone learns from the exchange. I know it's difficult when there's only so many hours in a day and when there are too many posts to comment on. It just appears to me that quantity has surpassed quality on services like Twitter than Friendfeed.  Maybe that's just a side effect of casual chat/conversations, they are less intellectually engaging and more about expressing or articulating opinions or ideas. Or maybe I just need better networks. I look for more than just people 'chiming in'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My bad. Maybe I should clarify my issues a bit. To me dialogue is more about detailed discussions than comments. Or maybe I just need better friends but even your Friendfeed is full of more comments than conversations or discussions. When I look for dialogue I look for conversations where anyone can control where the conversation goes. I look for a thoughtful exchange of ideas and knowledge that builds upon one another. The medium may allow for that but most of what is out there is simply comments. The importance of dialogue (to me) is that it engages people in an exchange that leads people to learn from one another through iterative discussions (like this). Thanks for the reply, it&#8217;s the best way to disprove my point. In short, I yearn for more elaboration of ideas than simple comments.  You know, people who explain their premises and the conclusions to which they lead and are open to engaging others others in debating them so everyone learns from the exchange. I know it&#8217;s difficult when there&#8217;s only so many hours in a day and when there are too many posts to comment on. It just appears to me that quantity has surpassed quality on services like Twitter than Friendfeed.  Maybe that&#8217;s just a side effect of casual chat/conversations, they are less intellectually engaging and more about expressing or articulating opinions or ideas. Or maybe I just need better networks. I look for more than just people &#8216;chiming in&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tech Crunch: Plus ça change &#124; c3i</title>
		<link>http://scobleizer.com/2008/07/05/off-of-the-tech-entertainment-train/#comment-1990995</link>
		<dc:creator>Tech Crunch: Plus ça change &#124; c3i</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] nothing going on? Has the TechMeme conversation dried up, as Robert Scoble entertainingly baits? Are FriendFeed conversations more viral and link-inducing? Of course. There&#8217;s nothing like a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] nothing going on? Has the TechMeme conversation dried up, as Robert Scoble entertainingly baits? Are FriendFeed conversations more viral and link-inducing? Of course. There&#8217;s nothing like a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: When Blogs become commodities and links lose their way : Orrorin&#8217;s Diary</title>
		<link>http://scobleizer.com/2008/07/05/off-of-the-tech-entertainment-train/#comment-1990733</link>
		<dc:creator>When Blogs become commodities and links lose their way : Orrorin&#8217;s Diary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to select their sources and authors to merge or get into niches. Scobleizer is one very good example. The upcoming of 3D, decentralized virtual worlds, social and semantic search and most importantly [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Robert Scoble</title>
		<link>http://scobleizer.com/2008/07/05/off-of-the-tech-entertainment-train/#comment-1990462</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Scoble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 07:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jake: what? Check out my conversations on FriendFeed: http://friendfeed.com/scobleizer/comments

I don't see anything like what you describe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jake: what? Check out my conversations on FriendFeed: <a href="http://friendfeed.com/scobleizer/comments" rel="nofollow">http://friendfeed.com/scobleizer/comments</a></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see anything like what you describe.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Lockley</title>
		<link>http://scobleizer.com/2008/07/05/off-of-the-tech-entertainment-train/#comment-1990455</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake Lockley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 06:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I have to ask, just how to friendfeed and twitter promote dialogue/conversations? They are part of the narcissistic web 2.0 where people shout look at me me me and aren't about conversations, discussions, critical thinking or dialogue. Even blog comments are fly by methods for people to post opinions and feedback rather than engage in threaded conversations where people. So tell me o' master of the one way talkers, where's the dialogue that once made the web a valuable medium?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I have to ask, just how to friendfeed and twitter promote dialogue/conversations? They are part of the narcissistic web 2.0 where people shout look at me me me and aren&#8217;t about conversations, discussions, critical thinking or dialogue. Even blog comments are fly by methods for people to post opinions and feedback rather than engage in threaded conversations where people. So tell me o&#8217; master of the one way talkers, where&#8217;s the dialogue that once made the web a valuable medium?</p>
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		<title>By: Elite Tech News #14: Obama&#8217;s Junk</title>
		<link>http://scobleizer.com/2008/07/05/off-of-the-tech-entertainment-train/#comment-1990450</link>
		<dc:creator>Elite Tech News #14: Obama&#8217;s Junk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 05:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] covered a wide array of stories from the previous week: Scoble: Off the tech entertainment train Netflix is Keeping Profiles LCD TVs - worse for the environment than coal? Apple not happy with [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Adam Christensen</title>
		<link>http://scobleizer.com/2008/07/05/off-of-the-tech-entertainment-train/#comment-1990429</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Christensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 23:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you've hit on an important issue - at least for me. Techmeme really represents a very narrow view of the world. In fact, it usually reflects a very narrow view of a narrow part of the technology industry even. If Techmeme were your only source of information, you'd think the entire world comprised of a small handful of individuals, talking about one topic, and mostly it was about each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;ve hit on an important issue - at least for me. Techmeme really represents a very narrow view of the world. In fact, it usually reflects a very narrow view of a narrow part of the technology industry even. If Techmeme were your only source of information, you&#8217;d think the entire world comprised of a small handful of individuals, talking about one topic, and mostly it was about each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Elite Tech News #14: Obama&#8217;s Junk &#187; Webomatica - Technology and Entertainment Digest</title>
		<link>http://scobleizer.com/2008/07/05/off-of-the-tech-entertainment-train/#comment-1990388</link>
		<dc:creator>Elite Tech News #14: Obama&#8217;s Junk &#187; Webomatica - Technology and Entertainment Digest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 17:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Robert Scoble getting off the tech entertainment train, FriendFeed (of course), Netflix profiles / Roku box, 3G iPhone plan pricing and Rogers, LCD TVs [...]</description>
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		<title>By: WinExtra &#187; Elite Tech News #14 &#8211; The Obama&#8217;s Junk Episode</title>
		<link>http://scobleizer.com/2008/07/05/off-of-the-tech-entertainment-train/#comment-1990382</link>
		<dc:creator>WinExtra &#187; Elite Tech News #14 &#8211; The Obama&#8217;s Junk Episode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] tiny RC helicopter: prototype for Dune Hunter-Killer? Scoble: Off the tech entertainment train Netflix is Keeping Profiles LCD TVs - worse for the environment than coal? Apple not happy with [...]</description>
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		<title>By: marc</title>
		<link>http://scobleizer.com/2008/07/05/off-of-the-tech-entertainment-train/#comment-1990353</link>
		<dc:creator>marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 05:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like your videos a lot! so I agree with Dawn Douglass, your videos should be visible on Scobleizer.com. Not as links but like clickable photos. Why?
1. I'd associate them directly with you. (not that you didn't make them but still)
2. Visually it would make your blog more appealing, eeh...entertaining? 
3. It's faster ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your videos a lot! so I agree with Dawn Douglass, your videos should be visible on Scobleizer.com. Not as links but like clickable photos. Why?<br />
1. I&#8217;d associate them directly with you. (not that you didn&#8217;t make them but still)<br />
2. Visually it would make your blog more appealing, eeh&#8230;entertaining?<br />
3. It&#8217;s faster ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Getting Geeky on the Elite Tech News Show</title>
		<link>http://scobleizer.com/2008/07/05/off-of-the-tech-entertainment-train/#comment-1990344</link>
		<dc:creator>Getting Geeky on the Elite Tech News Show</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 04:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] We talked iPhone 3G, particularly Rogers iPhone plans in Canada, along with some tech environmental stuff, Dave Winer, Robert Scoble&#8217;s parting with the rest of the techmeme blogosphere crowd. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] We talked iPhone 3G, particularly Rogers iPhone plans in Canada, along with some tech environmental stuff, Dave Winer, Robert Scoble&#8217;s parting with the rest of the techmeme blogosphere crowd. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scabr</title>
		<link>http://scobleizer.com/2008/07/05/off-of-the-tech-entertainment-train/#comment-1990259</link>
		<dc:creator>Scabr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 16:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Scobleizer.I like Techmeme too.Maybe,they are info bros http://siteanalytics.compete.com/techmeme.com+scobleizer.com/?metric=uv ?:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Scobleizer.I like Techmeme too.Maybe,they are info bros <a href="http://siteanalytics.compete.com/techmeme.com+scobleizer.com/?metric=uv" rel="nofollow">http://siteanalytics.compete.com/techmeme.com+scobleizer.com/?metric=uv</a> ?:)</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent van Wylick</title>
		<link>http://scobleizer.com/2008/07/05/off-of-the-tech-entertainment-train/#comment-1990256</link>
		<dc:creator>Vincent van Wylick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 15:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the problem with TechMeme and other aggregators is that video, your main gig nowadays, is hard to track. There really should be an instant transcriber for people &#38; "sniffers" to read. On a related note, I'd also love an instant audio-feed to listen to on my iPod, because video definitely isn't always ok.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the problem with TechMeme and other aggregators is that video, your main gig nowadays, is hard to track. There really should be an instant transcriber for people &amp; &#8220;sniffers&#8221; to read. On a related note, I&#8217;d also love an instant audio-feed to listen to on my iPod, because video definitely isn&#8217;t always ok.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Papillion</title>
		<link>http://scobleizer.com/2008/07/05/off-of-the-tech-entertainment-train/#comment-1990242</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Papillion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 11:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo, Robert! I've always found it much more interesting to hang out with smart people than those who keep me entertained. Entertainers are a dime a dozen but people who can provide fresh perspective on relevant issues like the stuff you did in D.C. are rare and hard to find. Personally, I'd rather learn something interesting and relevant than be entertained.

So yes, you can probably kiss your days on Techmeme goodbye. The more non-generalized 'look-how-cool-this-new-stuff-is' fluff you do, the further from that crowd you'll move. But those of us who are really interested in tech - not just cool tech - won't go anywhere. We want the deeper story. We want stuff like D.C.

And don't feel too bad about Techmeme. I'm sure Valleywag will give you some love... :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo, Robert! I&#8217;ve always found it much more interesting to hang out with smart people than those who keep me entertained. Entertainers are a dime a dozen but people who can provide fresh perspective on relevant issues like the stuff you did in D.C. are rare and hard to find. Personally, I&#8217;d rather learn something interesting and relevant than be entertained.</p>
<p>So yes, you can probably kiss your days on Techmeme goodbye. The more non-generalized &#8216;look-how-cool-this-new-stuff-is&#8217; fluff you do, the further from that crowd you&#8217;ll move. But those of us who are really interested in tech - not just cool tech - won&#8217;t go anywhere. We want the deeper story. We want stuff like D.C.</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t feel too bad about Techmeme. I&#8217;m sure Valleywag will give you some love&#8230; :-)</p>
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		<title>By: wolfsbayne</title>
		<link>http://scobleizer.com/2008/07/05/off-of-the-tech-entertainment-train/#comment-1990212</link>
		<dc:creator>wolfsbayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 02:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>don't discount that your political views may cause you some "popularity" loss. btw, is arrington an entertainer just because he claims to be? does having a tech blog qualify one as an entertainer? maybe, if one is funny, or e-n-t-e-r-t-a-i-n-i-n-g. robert, at least you squeal when you get upset and that IS entertaining.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don&#8217;t discount that your political views may cause you some &#8220;popularity&#8221; loss. btw, is arrington an entertainer just because he claims to be? does having a tech blog qualify one as an entertainer? maybe, if one is funny, or e-n-t-e-r-t-a-i-n-i-n-g. robert, at least you squeal when you get upset and that IS entertaining.</p>
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		<title>By: Sonciary Honnoll</title>
		<link>http://scobleizer.com/2008/07/05/off-of-the-tech-entertainment-train/#comment-1990211</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonciary Honnoll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 02:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is great! I'm glad you're pushing for innovation rather than sensationalism. I find the good stuff mostly on FF, but I'll continue to read content from all major tech news sites - I need a mix.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great! I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re pushing for innovation rather than sensationalism. I find the good stuff mostly on FF, but I&#8217;ll continue to read content from all major tech news sites - I need a mix.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn Douglass</title>
		<link>http://scobleizer.com/2008/07/05/off-of-the-tech-entertainment-train/#comment-1990209</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawn Douglass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 02:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You're a broken record, C.C.

Robert is just following the natural way of things.  Like when you're dating, at first you're very excited about them, but as you learn more, you can get turned off and disillusioned.

What would you have Robert do?  Marry a serial killer because he liked her when they first met??

The world at large isn't static, and certainly the world Robert plays in is even more dynamic.  Services change, needs change, new services launch...  

The way you harp on this issue over and over and over and over and over and over and over again, it makes me wonder if you're still using dialup because getting online was so exciting for you at first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re a broken record, C.C.</p>
<p>Robert is just following the natural way of things.  Like when you&#8217;re dating, at first you&#8217;re very excited about them, but as you learn more, you can get turned off and disillusioned.</p>
<p>What would you have Robert do?  Marry a serial killer because he liked her when they first met??</p>
<p>The world at large isn&#8217;t static, and certainly the world Robert plays in is even more dynamic.  Services change, needs change, new services launch&#8230;  </p>
<p>The way you harp on this issue over and over and over and over and over and over and over again, it makes me wonder if you&#8217;re still using dialup because getting online was so exciting for you at first.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Scoble</title>
		<link>http://scobleizer.com/2008/07/05/off-of-the-tech-entertainment-train/#comment-1990204</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Scoble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 00:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coulter: that is the way the entire tech industry works. BBS's were hot. Not now. Same for AOL. DEC. Compuserve. Pointcast. Even you. I remember thinking you were smart. I guess I was wrong about that too. 

Gave: I use all tools available to me to reach smart people. Funny that three Congressmen talked about Twitter but didn't read Techmeme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coulter: that is the way the entire tech industry works. BBS&#8217;s were hot. Not now. Same for AOL. DEC. Compuserve. Pointcast. Even you. I remember thinking you were smart. I guess I was wrong about that too. </p>
<p>Gave: I use all tools available to me to reach smart people. Funny that three Congressmen talked about Twitter but didn&#8217;t read Techmeme.</p>
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