First hour with Google’s new browser

I’m playing with Google’s new Chrome browser. So far, damn, this is nice.

Pros.

1. Uses less memory. I still need to do some tests on a clean machine, but it looks like it uses dramatically less memory than Firefox or IE8 beta2.
2. Faster. Both on startup and scrolling around. On my tests with Google Reader it’s dramatically faster in places.
3. Simplistic UI. It’s uncluttered. Simple. No links to Google stuff. Great for beginners, but truth be told I love using it too.
4. Larger viewport. I can see more content. Fewer toolbars and taskbars.

Cons.

1. No Firefox extensions. I’ve been playing a lot lately with Greasemonkey and other extensions from Firefox.
2. Unclear compatibility. I’m seeing some reports over on FriendFeed that there’s some Web sites that don’t work with it.

Anyway, it’s being discussed all over the blogosphere right now, so I’m sure there’s a ton of articles about it on TechMeme (I haven’t looked, I just got home from one interview and am headed back out to another one).

But, after first hour? I’m definitely coming back to use it for a second hour. We’ll see if it survives a week. How about for you?

117 thoughts on “First hour with Google’s new browser

  1. ok a big con you missed out!!!!

    google claims everything you create using the new chrome browser, including e-mails and blogs, so if you wrote this entry using chromes, its not even yours!

    check out this blog:

    http://tinyurl.com/6dzhzm

  2. ok a big con you missed out!!!!

    google claims everything you create using the new chrome browser, including e-mails and blogs, so if you wrote this entry using chromes, its not even yours!

    check out this blog:

    http://tinyurl.com/6dzhzm

  3. I like it, but again, Firefox’s addons have me hooked. If all the main FF addons get ported to Chrome, I’m sold. I’d need:
    Firebug
    EverNote
    Delicious.com
    Digg
    …at the least.

  4. I like it, but again, Firefox’s addons have me hooked. If all the main FF addons get ported to Chrome, I’m sold. I’d need:
    Firebug
    EverNote
    Delicious.com
    Digg
    …at the least.

  5. no RSS feeds in the bookmarks, and no google toolbar? think I’ll stick with Firefox. Those are almost basic functions now, let alone no support for FF extensions.

  6. no RSS feeds in the bookmarks, and no google toolbar? think I’ll stick with Firefox. Those are almost basic functions now, let alone no support for FF extensions.

  7. Google Chrome is nice but it doesn’t have mouse gestures and
    zoom doesn’t work. Opera had full page zoom correctly done 3 years ago.
    Firefox only learned it 2 months ago in FF3. IE only learned it last week (IE8 Beta 2). Google hasn’t learned it yet.

    Why is it that the big browser consortiums can plagerize freely from Opera
    and declare their work to be new and innovative? Most of the FF3, IE8 and now Chrome features are in Opera and have been for several years? There seems to be some industry bias against Opera. Why is that?

  8. Google Chrome is nice but it doesn’t have mouse gestures and
    zoom doesn’t work. Opera had full page zoom correctly done 3 years ago.
    Firefox only learned it 2 months ago in FF3. IE only learned it last week (IE8 Beta 2). Google hasn’t learned it yet.

    Why is it that the big browser consortiums can plagerize freely from Opera
    and declare their work to be new and innovative? Most of the FF3, IE8 and now Chrome features are in Opera and have been for several years? There seems to be some industry bias against Opera. Why is that?

  9. So here are my cons:

    Massive security problems:
    1) Reports IP back to Google
    2) Reports all visited Pages back to Google
    3) Gives your PC a unique ID
    4) Its easy to start an (evil) java app on your pc, Carpet bomb (see http://raffon.net/research/google/chrome/carpet.html)
    5) To crash the browser simply visit this site http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/2008-September/064203.html
    6) or just type :%
    7) Scanns all of your files on the hd. Everything.
    8) No stable proxy support
    9) GoogleUpdate.exe is omipresent, starts everytime you boot and is not part of the deinstallation, so it stays on you system forever.

    And if you want to know what the internet looks like: type about:internets

  10. So here are my cons:

    Massive security problems:
    1) Reports IP back to Google
    2) Reports all visited Pages back to Google
    3) Gives your PC a unique ID
    4) Its easy to start an (evil) java app on your pc, Carpet bomb (see http://raffon.net/research/google/chrome/carpet.html)
    5) To crash the browser simply visit this site http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/2008-September/064203.html
    6) or just type :%
    7) Scanns all of your files on the hd. Everything.
    8) No stable proxy support
    9) GoogleUpdate.exe is omipresent, starts everytime you boot and is not part of the deinstallation, so it stays on you system forever.

    And if you want to know what the internet looks like: type about:internets

  11. It works pretty nice and in some weird way gives me a feeling that it is a portable browser! I mean, a very small payload on the system and good enough to the job. Asus EE PC Users might love this, a small browser that gets the job done. Either way, I am sticking with Firefox for the time being. I am used to it and I am lazy to make a change in my style.

    I got the installation screenshots posted on my site, so if you want to check them out before downloading or installing it, go right ahead. Offcourse, the installation is pretty smooth and fast and you don’t actually need a screenshot, I just did it to show that I know how to do a PrtScrn!!!

    ~Verzion7.com

  12. It works pretty nice and in some weird way gives me a feeling that it is a portable browser! I mean, a very small payload on the system and good enough to the job. Asus EE PC Users might love this, a small browser that gets the job done. Either way, I am sticking with Firefox for the time being. I am used to it and I am lazy to make a change in my style.

    I got the installation screenshots posted on my site, so if you want to check them out before downloading or installing it, go right ahead. Offcourse, the installation is pretty smooth and fast and you don’t actually need a screenshot, I just did it to show that I know how to do a PrtScrn!!!

    ~Verzion7.com

  13. Well currently for me, no site requiring google account authentication works. They all stop rendering half way through the logo. Is it because I’ve got a French OS (I didn’t ask, it just supposed that I wanted Chrome in French – come on guys. My company bought the PC, they chose the language of the OS. PLEASE let me chose languages myself).

  14. Well currently for me, no site requiring google account authentication works. They all stop rendering half way through the logo. Is it because I’ve got a French OS (I didn’t ask, it just supposed that I wanted Chrome in French – come on guys. My company bought the PC, they chose the language of the OS. PLEASE let me chose languages myself).

  15. I think,that’s a bit “out of the way” but “great” move by Google to avoid the menu bar from the browser.Only after i used Chrome,i realized how irrelevant the menu bar is….Just the bookmarking thing is ofter used by me from the menu and now i don’t even use that coz just a click on the star makes it for me..There will actually be a tough call between Mozilla and Chrome now,But Google is the Winner in any case

  16. I think,that’s a bit “out of the way” but “great” move by Google to avoid the menu bar from the browser.Only after i used Chrome,i realized how irrelevant the menu bar is….Just the bookmarking thing is ofter used by me from the menu and now i don’t even use that coz just a click on the star makes it for me..There will actually be a tough call between Mozilla and Chrome now,But Google is the Winner in any case

  17. I’ve not tried Chrome yet, but the screen shots show that there’s no menu bar. I wonder if Google will be ripped to shreds by the know-it-all geeks for this move the way they ripped Microsoft for removing the menu in IE7 (though it’s available on demand). I suspect not.

  18. I’ve not tried Chrome yet, but the screen shots show that there’s no menu bar. I wonder if Google will be ripped to shreds by the know-it-all geeks for this move the way they ripped Microsoft for removing the menu in IE7 (though it’s available on demand). I suspect not.

  19. “Unclear compatibility.”

    Robert, I suspect that we’ll see a quick wave of improvements (on both web servers and in Chrome) to fix lots of low-hanging fruit on different websites. But Chrome has been compatible and very robust for me.

  20. “Unclear compatibility.”

    Robert, I suspect that we’ll see a quick wave of improvements (on both web servers and in Chrome) to fix lots of low-hanging fruit on different websites. But Chrome has been compatible and very robust for me.

  21. So far, so awesome. Give me a browser that is efficient with memory usage and I’ll (temporarily) give up my extensions. However, I believe that part of the problem in the past with memory usage in Firefox was due to improperly written extensions. At this point, the only disappointment for me is that the touchpad on my HP notebook scrolls down but does not scroll up.

  22. So far, so awesome. Give me a browser that is efficient with memory usage and I’ll (temporarily) give up my extensions. However, I believe that part of the problem in the past with memory usage in Firefox was due to improperly written extensions. At this point, the only disappointment for me is that the touchpad on my HP notebook scrolls down but does not scroll up.

  23. Well it’s damn fast and it doesn’t hang as his friends IE8, FF3 and Safari does on my old XP machine.

    I’m still in love with the fantastic Graphic renderer of Safari, but Chrome rocks for all the rest… and it’s reliable, and fast.

    I’m not a kind of extension fan, so for me it’s not a big deal that Chrome doesn’t have (yet) all the extensions ff has. But i think it’s only a temporary problem.

    BTW for the first time Google has copied something from Microsoft (the domain highlight in the URLs…). It will be a funny time.

    Ah… a question: for you Chrome is primary an anti-Microsoft app?

  24. Well it’s damn fast and it doesn’t hang as his friends IE8, FF3 and Safari does on my old XP machine.

    I’m still in love with the fantastic Graphic renderer of Safari, but Chrome rocks for all the rest… and it’s reliable, and fast.

    I’m not a kind of extension fan, so for me it’s not a big deal that Chrome doesn’t have (yet) all the extensions ff has. But i think it’s only a temporary problem.

    BTW for the first time Google has copied something from Microsoft (the domain highlight in the URLs…). It will be a funny time.

    Ah… a question: for you Chrome is primary an anti-Microsoft app?

  25. I’m looking for a way to organise my bookmarks (something I do quite often) and Chrome isn’t providing me with a way of doing this… I’m not overly impressed to be honest… I kind of like Firefox’s functionality too much to change over right now…

  26. I’m looking for a way to organise my bookmarks (something I do quite often) and Chrome isn’t providing me with a way of doing this… I’m not overly impressed to be honest… I kind of like Firefox’s functionality too much to change over right now…

  27. As soon as I heard that Chrome was released I read the cartoon, downloaded, installed and tried it out. I must say that I am really impressed. It is a first version but for being that it is solid.

    I too miss my Firefox extensions but I’m sure that will get a solution, Gears? It’s Open Source folks, no worries, or am I missing something?

    I made a review of my first impression with some screen dumps if anyone’s interested, click my name.

  28. As soon as I heard that Chrome was released I read the cartoon, downloaded, installed and tried it out. I must say that I am really impressed. It is a first version but for being that it is solid.

    I too miss my Firefox extensions but I’m sure that will get a solution, Gears? It’s Open Source folks, no worries, or am I missing something?

    I made a review of my first impression with some screen dumps if anyone’s interested, click my name.

  29. Youtube is the only site that I have noticed that it is waaaaaaaaaaaay slower than IE or Firefox….kinda ironic actually.

  30. Youtube is the only site that I have noticed that it is waaaaaaaaaaaay slower than IE or Firefox….kinda ironic actually.

  31. Just want to point out… it’s *still* not a multi-threaded browser per se, at least according to the cartoon. It simply gives each tab its own process (though plug-ins may be spun off in a separate process), which means that your better perf via SMP applies only if multiple tabs are used (which is just as the IE8 beta already does). They are *not* scaling js perf via SMP. There are performance improvements in js, but not because they are using multiple CPUs to do it (at least not in anything I’ve read).

    In my limited experience with it so far today, the performance with heavy-js apps is impressive, but that’s about it. Honestly, I find that for my use, IE8 B2 is faster. I guess I don’t use so many AJAX-ed sites. It’s interesting that IE8 and Chrome are taking the same tab-per-process approach. I like how quickly IE8 B2 recovers a crashed tab, right to the point of the crash, even with the browsing history intact. If you blink, you’ll miss it. Heresy perhaps, but I find the features and speed in IE8 B2 to be more compelling than what I’m seeing so far in Chrome. One thing I’m definitely missing already are the improved tab features in IE8 B2, and even simple things like saving an entire group of tabs at once.

  32. Just want to point out… it’s *still* not a multi-threaded browser per se, at least according to the cartoon. It simply gives each tab its own process (though plug-ins may be spun off in a separate process), which means that your better perf via SMP applies only if multiple tabs are used (which is just as the IE8 beta already does). They are *not* scaling js perf via SMP. There are performance improvements in js, but not because they are using multiple CPUs to do it (at least not in anything I’ve read).

    In my limited experience with it so far today, the performance with heavy-js apps is impressive, but that’s about it. Honestly, I find that for my use, IE8 B2 is faster. I guess I don’t use so many AJAX-ed sites. It’s interesting that IE8 and Chrome are taking the same tab-per-process approach. I like how quickly IE8 B2 recovers a crashed tab, right to the point of the crash, even with the browsing history intact. If you blink, you’ll miss it. Heresy perhaps, but I find the features and speed in IE8 B2 to be more compelling than what I’m seeing so far in Chrome. One thing I’m definitely missing already are the improved tab features in IE8 B2, and even simple things like saving an entire group of tabs at once.

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