CERN: Congrats for powering up LHC

Congrats to all the physicists at CERN for getting the Large Hadron Collider up and running. Twitter and FriendFeed are going nuts.

Earlier this year physicist Frank Taylor gave me a tour of the LHC, which is up here.

Part I
Part II

Just look at the home page of Twitter’s search engine to see the trending topics are all about LHC right now. Even Google got into the act and changed its logo worldwide to one depicting the LHC. Here’s FriendFeed’s search engine for LHC.

Comments

  1. A freakin waste of money if you ask me. What exactly do they do? They bang protons together. What fun! Maybe it gets the scientists off or something. How the f*** is this experiment going to result in any tangible benefits. I fail to fathom. And it has indeed created a black hole – one which sucks in money.

  2. A freakin waste of money if you ask me. What exactly do they do? They bang protons together. What fun! Maybe it gets the scientists off or something. How the f*** is this experiment going to result in any tangible benefits. I fail to fathom. And it has indeed created a black hole – one which sucks in money.

  3. Anonymous. Waste of money? Really?

    You live in a world of technology entirely based on smashing up particles to see what’s in them:

    You’re using a device that has been made possible by the discovery of the electron, over a network made possible by the discovery of the photon.

    You’re posting your reply on the web, created as a spinoff from CERN’s Large Electron-Positron Collider.

    You or someone you know likely had a number of nuclear medicine scans, including anti-matter scans, all based on prior particle discovery.

    And you’re arguing that it’s not worth the 0.015% of wordwide GDP because we don’t know what we’ll find?

    If you want to live in the 19th century, live in the 19th century, but don’t use technology that is entirely based on discovery, to argue against discovery. And then do it on a geek forum!

  4. Anonymous. Waste of money? Really?

    You live in a world of technology entirely based on smashing up particles to see what’s in them:

    You’re using a device that has been made possible by the discovery of the electron, over a network made possible by the discovery of the photon.

    You’re posting your reply on the web, created as a spinoff from CERN’s Large Electron-Positron Collider.

    You or someone you know likely had a number of nuclear medicine scans, including anti-matter scans, all based on prior particle discovery.

    And you’re arguing that it’s not worth the 0.015% of wordwide GDP because we don’t know what we’ll find?

    If you want to live in the 19th century, live in the 19th century, but don’t use technology that is entirely based on discovery, to argue against discovery. And then do it on a geek forum!

  5. one of the things they are trying to do is getting to the bottom of the nature of mass – yes the same mass that Isaac Newton understood to be a significant factor in gravity.

    I wonder how many people during Newton’s time also thought that it was a waste of time to understand gravity and how many of us now are benefiting from Newton’s understanding of gravity?

  6. one of the things they are trying to do is getting to the bottom of the nature of mass – yes the same mass that Isaac Newton understood to be a significant factor in gravity.

    I wonder how many people during Newton’s time also thought that it was a waste of time to understand gravity and how many of us now are benefiting from Newton’s understanding of gravity?

  7. Personally, I am fuming that some of the worlds top scientists
    would rather spend over 10 BILLION pounds on a machine
    that is not gauranteed to even find this “atom”, then to spend
    it on things that would actually benefit the world, like feeding the
    5 million children that statistically die every single day through starvation,
    finding a cure to cancer, aids, or hiv, or putting the money into funding
    hospitals or schools.

    What ridiculous retard of a scientist thought that it would be a good idea
    to waste money like that … not to mention the staggering amount of energy
    it will use, or the amount of pollution it will cause, and these are the same people who are telling me not to drive, ( not that I can, I am only 15 but even so can see just how ludicrous the whole thing is), not to go on a plane more than twice a year, or not to use too much energy in the home.

    Also, many christians or people with religous beliefs have been highly offended, as on TV programs, such as GMTV, they were saying “LHC is blah blah blah …. they are trying to find out more about the bigbang, the thing which created the universe” …
    and yet the bigbang theory is exactly what it says .. a THEORY, so why are they going round saying ” the thing which DID create the universe”.

    These scientists are all hypocrits ” dont drive, you will cause pollution”
    .. well that lhc monster machine is causing lots and lots
    These scientists offend people ” The bigbang created the universe”
    … so why still call it a theory ???
    These scientists are extremely selfish ” Oooh lets spend billions of pounds on something that will find out nothing, but make me rich and famous, and boost MY career”
    … Think how much the world could benefit from all that money.

  8. Personally, I am fuming that some of the worlds top scientists
    would rather spend over 10 BILLION pounds on a machine
    that is not gauranteed to even find this “atom”, then to spend
    it on things that would actually benefit the world, like feeding the
    5 million children that statistically die every single day through starvation,
    finding a cure to cancer, aids, or hiv, or putting the money into funding
    hospitals or schools.

    What ridiculous retard of a scientist thought that it would be a good idea
    to waste money like that … not to mention the staggering amount of energy
    it will use, or the amount of pollution it will cause, and these are the same people who are telling me not to drive, ( not that I can, I am only 15 but even so can see just how ludicrous the whole thing is), not to go on a plane more than twice a year, or not to use too much energy in the home.

    Also, many christians or people with religous beliefs have been highly offended, as on TV programs, such as GMTV, they were saying “LHC is blah blah blah …. they are trying to find out more about the bigbang, the thing which created the universe” …
    and yet the bigbang theory is exactly what it says .. a THEORY, so why are they going round saying ” the thing which DID create the universe”.

    These scientists are all hypocrits ” dont drive, you will cause pollution”
    .. well that lhc monster machine is causing lots and lots
    These scientists offend people ” The bigbang created the universe”
    … so why still call it a theory ???
    These scientists are extremely selfish ” Oooh lets spend billions of pounds on something that will find out nothing, but make me rich and famous, and boost MY career”
    … Think how much the world could benefit from all that money.

  9. Borlock,

    I must agree with Anonymous (besides the fact that he comments without a name).
    I really don’t understand all the fuss about the LHC.
    As said in this blog, I wonder if it isn’t a waste of energy, literally and metaphorically, which can be better used for other purposes.

    Eddy

  10. Borlock,

    I must agree with Anonymous (besides the fact that he comments without a name).
    I really don’t understand all the fuss about the LHC.
    As said in this blog, I wonder if it isn’t a waste of energy, literally and metaphorically, which can be better used for other purposes.

    Eddy

  11. Anonymous.,

    Next time you or someone you know needs an X-ray, or Chemotherapy, think about how that was discovered, and hopefully realise the full extent of your ignorance.

  12. Anonymous.,

    Next time you or someone you know needs an X-ray, or Chemotherapy, think about how that was discovered, and hopefully realise the full extent of your ignorance.

  13. Hi anonymous,

    I completely agree with your strong viewpoint. looking at todays scenario, we can say that our humanity cannot afford to spend 9 to 10 billion dollars just to experience what happened few seconds after the Big Bang when there are more pressing needs. Instead they could have spent money on finding cure for Aids or Cancer on a more commercial basis which still is not able to reach the masses.

  14. Hi anonymous,

    I completely agree with your strong viewpoint. looking at todays scenario, we can say that our humanity cannot afford to spend 9 to 10 billion dollars just to experience what happened few seconds after the Big Bang when there are more pressing needs. Instead they could have spent money on finding cure for Aids or Cancer on a more commercial basis which still is not able to reach the masses.

  15. Ugh. You know how little $10 billion really is for a 10 year project with global influence?

    * The Apollo project was $150 billion in today’s money.

    * The Manhatten project was $25 billion in today’s money.

    * Cancer/aids research. To put it in perspective, the U.S. contributed
    $0.5b to the collider. At the same time the US (federal government alone) spent $50 billion on cancer research, and $20 on AIDS research.

    Maybe the extra 0.7% would have made all the difference, but I doubt it.

    * The Iraq war price is around $500 billion direct, and $3 trillion more due to disrupted oil flow. (Don’t need to argue whether or not it’s worth it, just bringing into perspective what stuff costs).

    Partical discovery in the past has had pronounced effects on our day-to-day life, yet people say “Yip. That’s enough. Let’s stop learning now. I don’t want to know anymore. I’d rather spend my $1.50 part of the colider cost on an espresso.”

    People, we don’t even know how gravity works! Don’t you think once we find that out we might just be able to put it to good use?

  16. Ugh. You know how little $10 billion really is for a 10 year project with global influence?

    * The Apollo project was $150 billion in today’s money.

    * The Manhatten project was $25 billion in today’s money.

    * Cancer/aids research. To put it in perspective, the U.S. contributed
    $0.5b to the collider. At the same time the US (federal government alone) spent $50 billion on cancer research, and $20 on AIDS research.

    Maybe the extra 0.7% would have made all the difference, but I doubt it.

    * The Iraq war price is around $500 billion direct, and $3 trillion more due to disrupted oil flow. (Don’t need to argue whether or not it’s worth it, just bringing into perspective what stuff costs).

    Partical discovery in the past has had pronounced effects on our day-to-day life, yet people say “Yip. That’s enough. Let’s stop learning now. I don’t want to know anymore. I’d rather spend my $1.50 part of the colider cost on an espresso.”

    People, we don’t even know how gravity works! Don’t you think once we find that out we might just be able to put it to good use?

  17. Make that $20 billion on AIDS research, not $20. Otherwise I’ve been over-funding AIDS research just by myself for the last decade :)

  18. Make that $20 billion on AIDS research, not $20. Otherwise I’ve been over-funding AIDS research just by myself for the last decade :)

  19. Bekah.
    What insight for someone still 15. Reading your views echo mine 100 %.
    Might I add – I do my best for the environment every day, am a member of Greenpeace etc. Where are Friends of the Earth? or Greenpeace? Nobody with banners this time demonstrating againnst the pollution, waste of energy and even possible danger to earth itself. No, not just unfounded fears by some thick laypeople like myself, but other scientists around the world.
    I hope you will be here and have a future along with the rest of us. However, if things go wrong the one comforting thing to me is that all those scientists involved and those politicians who made the money available will perish too.

  20. Bekah.
    What insight for someone still 15. Reading your views echo mine 100 %.
    Might I add – I do my best for the environment every day, am a member of Greenpeace etc. Where are Friends of the Earth? or Greenpeace? Nobody with banners this time demonstrating againnst the pollution, waste of energy and even possible danger to earth itself. No, not just unfounded fears by some thick laypeople like myself, but other scientists around the world.
    I hope you will be here and have a future along with the rest of us. However, if things go wrong the one comforting thing to me is that all those scientists involved and those politicians who made the money available will perish too.

  21. Some people want to make science illegal in favor of distributing other people’s money according to each person’s need. Where have I read that before?

  22. Some people want to make science illegal in favor of distributing other people’s money according to each person’s need. Where have I read that before?