Seagate learns important PR lesson: keep the customers happy!

First, a disclaimer. Seagate is one of the sponsors of FastCompanyTV (the video network I manage) and has been a great partner of mine for two years.

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Seagate (maker of hard drives and storage devices) has been getting slammed on forums and blogs the past couple of days. Partly because they had a bad batch of hard drives and didn’t properly recognize or fix the problem quickly. Partly because they removed a few anti-Seagate threads from its forums.

I wasn’t asked my opinion about either of these things, but if I had I would have recommended that they jump on the problems and take care of customers quickly and I’d never recommend removing nasty posts unless they explicitly broke some rule like using nasty language or being racist or something like that. Why? A happy customer will tell maybe a handful of people. If you are really lucky, like Apple, they’ll blog about it.

But an angry customer? They’ll tell 30 times more people. And, because negative news gets more attention, it’ll spread much, much faster.

And an angry customer that had a post deleted? They’ll find 20 other places to spread their anger and get you to pay attention to them. At Microsoft I called this “throwing a brick through the window to get your attention.” Incoming!

A great reputation can go down in flames in a weekend. Which is what was going on. Bricks were flying through the window and, like usually happens when bricks fly, that gets people to start seeing the implications to the business and paying attention to customers again and making sure they are happy.

Which is what Seagate was working this weekend.

One thing, if you have troubles with your Seagate drives, let me know. I’ll find out what’s up, as I did in this case. It might take a day or two but we’ll get you taken care of. This is one reason I love Seagate. They’ve always taken care of problems for me and I love their products and we use them all over the place (and I’ve bought most of my own Seagate drives too, both before and after they’ve been a sponsor).

The folks I talked with at Seagate apologized for not taking care of this issue faster and better.

Here’s the details they just sent me (Engadget also covered this news):

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Seagate has isolated a potential firmware issue in certain products, including some Barracuda 7200.11 hard drives and related drive families based on this product platform, manufactured through December 2008. In some circumstances, the data on the hard drives may become inaccessible to the user when the host system is powered on*.

As part of our commitment to customer satisfaction, we are offering a free firmware upgrade to those with affected products. To determine whether your product is affected, please visit the Seagate Support web site at http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/crm/selfservice/search.jsp?DocId=207931.

Support is also available through Seagate’s call center: 1-800-SEAGATE (1 800 732-4283)

Customers can expedite assistance by sending an email to Seagate (discsupport@seagate.com). Please include the following disk drive information: model number, serial number and current firmware revision. We will respond, promptly, to your email request with appropriate instructions. There is no data loss associated with this issue, and the data still resides on the drive. But if you are unable to access your data due to this issue, Seagate will provide free data recovery services. Seagate will work with you to expedite a remedy to minimize any disruption to you or your business.

For a list of international telephone numbers to Seagate Support and alternative methods of contact, please access http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/about/contact_us/
*There is no safety issue with these products.

  • http://poetslife.blogspot.com Bruce Curley

    One more case study on why quality control procedures, usability testing, corrective actions, and an environment that promotes those who understand how critical these well-known business methods are in every good company, is so very, very important.

    Robert, I like the brick through a Window metaphor. Must have been what you learned when you were the blogger who took comments about Microsoft Windows.

  • http://www.radicallytransparent.com/ Andy Beal

    Maybe I should send them a copy of my book Robert. ;-)

  • http://www.radicallytransparent.com/ Andy Beal

    Maybe I should send them a copy of my book Robert. ;-)

  • http://www.radicallytransparent.com/ Andy Beal

    Maybe I should send them a copy of my book Robert. ;-)

  • http://www.radicallytransparent.com Andy Beal

    Maybe I should send them a copy of my book Robert. ;-)

  • Lou

    Man, when I heard this originally I about freaked out. I JUST bought one of these 1TB drives to replace a failing drive, and had begun migrating data over… And barely had the extra money for it, to boot. If this drive fails, I’m seriously up shit creek without a paddle. So… My drive is indeed an affected drive, and i’m going through the fix with a thousand warnings on it… If i post on this thread again, then my drive didn’t die from the “fix” lol. :D

    Really though, thanks for doing what you could to get us the info from Seagate. :)

  • http://www.slappop.com Lou

    Man, when I heard this originally I about freaked out. I JUST bought one of these 1TB drives to replace a failing drive, and had begun migrating data over… And barely had the extra money for it, to boot. If this drive fails, I’m seriously up shit creek without a paddle. So… My drive is indeed an affected drive, and i’m going through the fix with a thousand warnings on it… If i post on this thread again, then my drive didn’t die from the “fix” lol. :D

    Really though, thanks for doing what you could to get us the info from Seagate. :)

  • Lou

    Oooh, just checked the firmware on my drive against the KB, seems my drive is safe. Phew. That makes me feel (a little) better hehe.

  • http://www.slappop.com Lou

    Oooh, just checked the firmware on my drive against the KB, seems my drive is safe. Phew. That makes me feel (a little) better hehe.

  • http://kenzoid.com Ken Kennedy

    “Seagate has isolated a potential firmware issue in certain products…As part of our commitment to customer satisfaction, we are offering a free firmware upgrade to those with affected products.”

    So, am I reading this right? That basically says “we have bad firmware in some drives, and our solution is to not charge you for the fix”? Huh. Nice of them. Do they normally charge for firmware upgrades? If not…what exactly does this announcement mean, other than “hey, I think we’ll fix this”. Again…nice. Sorry, but marketing-speak in place of honest apologies always makes me cranky.

  • http://kenzoid.com Ken Kennedy

    “Seagate has isolated a potential firmware issue in certain products…As part of our commitment to customer satisfaction, we are offering a free firmware upgrade to those with affected products.”

    So, am I reading this right? That basically says “we have bad firmware in some drives, and our solution is to not charge you for the fix”? Huh. Nice of them. Do they normally charge for firmware upgrades? If not…what exactly does this announcement mean, other than “hey, I think we’ll fix this”. Again…nice. Sorry, but marketing-speak in place of honest apologies always makes me cranky.

  • http://kenzoid.com Ken Kennedy

    “Seagate has isolated a potential firmware issue in certain products…As part of our commitment to customer satisfaction, we are offering a free firmware upgrade to those with affected products.”

    So, am I reading this right? That basically says “we have bad firmware in some drives, and our solution is to not charge you for the fix”? Huh. Nice of them. Do they normally charge for firmware upgrades? If not…what exactly does this announcement mean, other than “hey, I think we’ll fix this”. Again…nice. Sorry, but marketing-speak in place of honest apologies always makes me cranky.

  • http://kenzoid.com Ken Kennedy

    “Seagate has isolated a potential firmware issue in certain products…As part of our commitment to customer satisfaction, we are offering a free firmware upgrade to those with affected products.”

    So, am I reading this right? That basically says “we have bad firmware in some drives, and our solution is to not charge you for the fix”? Huh. Nice of them. Do they normally charge for firmware upgrades? If not…what exactly does this announcement mean, other than “hey, I think we’ll fix this”. Again…nice. Sorry, but marketing-speak in place of honest apologies always makes me cranky.

  • http://kenzoid.com Ken Kennedy

    “Seagate has isolated a potential firmware issue in certain products…As part of our commitment to customer satisfaction, we are offering a free firmware upgrade to those with affected products.”

    So, am I reading this right? That basically says “we have bad firmware in some drives, and our solution is to not charge you for the fix”? Huh. Nice of them. Do they normally charge for firmware upgrades? If not…what exactly does this announcement mean, other than “hey, I think we’ll fix this”. Again…nice. Sorry, but marketing-speak in place of honest apologies always makes me cranky.

  • http://kenzoid.com Ken Kennedy

    “Seagate has isolated a potential firmware issue in certain products…As part of our commitment to customer satisfaction, we are offering a free firmware upgrade to those with affected products.”

    So, am I reading this right? That basically says “we have bad firmware in some drives, and our solution is to not charge you for the fix”? Huh. Nice of them. Do they normally charge for firmware upgrades? If not…what exactly does this announcement mean, other than “hey, I think we’ll fix this”. Again…nice. Sorry, but marketing-speak in place of honest apologies always makes me cranky.

  • http://kenzoid.com Ken Kennedy

    “Seagate has isolated a potential firmware issue in certain products…As part of our commitment to customer satisfaction, we are offering a free firmware upgrade to those with affected products.”

    So, am I reading this right? That basically says “we have bad firmware in some drives, and our solution is to not charge you for the fix”? Huh. Nice of them. Do they normally charge for firmware upgrades? If not…what exactly does this announcement mean, other than “hey, I think we’ll fix this”. Again…nice. Sorry, but marketing-speak in place of honest apologies always makes me cranky.

  • http://kenzoid.com Ken Kennedy

    “Seagate has isolated a potential firmware issue in certain products…As part of our commitment to customer satisfaction, we are offering a free firmware upgrade to those with affected products.”

    So, am I reading this right? That basically says “we have bad firmware in some drives, and our solution is to not charge you for the fix”? Huh. Nice of them. Do they normally charge for firmware upgrades? If not…what exactly does this announcement mean, other than “hey, I think we’ll fix this”. Again…nice. Sorry, but marketing-speak in place of honest apologies always makes me cranky.

  • Chris H

    Unfortunately, their “fixed” firmware won’t load on a vast majority of the affected discs. I have 3 750GB discs that I can’t put to use because they are a bad firmware and a corrected firmware is not available. Of course, the only way to find this out is to go to their forums. Seagate’s support says that the issue is fixed.

    I really love Seagate’s discs and have had great luck with them in the past, but Scoble’s post is right on. After this I don’t know if I will be purchasing any more of their products.

  • Chris H

    Unfortunately, their “fixed” firmware won’t load on a vast majority of the affected discs. I have 3 750GB discs that I can’t put to use because they are a bad firmware and a corrected firmware is not available. Of course, the only way to find this out is to go to their forums. Seagate’s support says that the issue is fixed.

    I really love Seagate’s discs and have had great luck with them in the past, but Scoble’s post is right on. After this I don’t know if I will be purchasing any more of their products.

  • Chris H

    Unfortunately, their “fixed” firmware won’t load on a vast majority of the affected discs. I have 3 750GB discs that I can’t put to use because they are a bad firmware and a corrected firmware is not available. Of course, the only way to find this out is to go to their forums. Seagate’s support says that the issue is fixed.

    I really love Seagate’s discs and have had great luck with them in the past, but Scoble’s post is right on. After this I don’t know if I will be purchasing any more of their products.

  • Bruce

    Hi,
    i tried the iso MooseDT-32MB-SD1A.ISO for a ST3500320AS(sd15)
    supplied by seagate for solving the problem
    and the firmware update failed they are dozens of customers encountering
    the firmware update failure there:
    http://forums.seagate.com/stx/board/message?board.id=ata_drives&thread.id=4771&view=by_date_ascending&page=27

  • Bruce

    Hi,
    i tried the iso MooseDT-32MB-SD1A.ISO for a ST3500320AS(sd15)
    supplied by seagate for solving the problem
    and the firmware update failed they are dozens of customers encountering
    the firmware update failure there:
    http://forums.seagate.com/stx/board/message?board.id=ata_drives&thread.id=4771&view=by_date_ascending&page=27

  • Bruce

    Hi,
    i tried the iso MooseDT-32MB-SD1A.ISO for a ST3500320AS(sd15)
    supplied by seagate for solving the problem
    and the firmware update failed they are dozens of customers encountering
    the firmware update failure there:
    http://forums.seagate.com/stx/board/message?board.id=ata_drives&thread.id=4771&view=by_date_ascending&page=27

  • Bruce

    Hi,
    i tried the iso MooseDT-32MB-SD1A.ISO for a ST3500320AS(sd15)
    supplied by seagate for solving the problem
    and the firmware update failed they are dozens of customers encountering
    the firmware update failure there:
    http://forums.seagate.com/stx/board/message?board.id=ata_drives&thread.id=4771&view=by_date_ascending&page=27

  • Christopher Coulter

    Bad news doesn’t actually travel all that fast, it needs someone to spray the gasoline and start the fire. People rant about everything, it takes some serious analysis, hard work and key placement to get it to stick.

    The “I was wronged” ranter, just comes off as shrill and ill-informed.

  • Christopher Coulter

    Bad news doesn’t actually travel all that fast, it needs someone to spray the gasoline and start the fire. People rant about everything, it takes some serious analysis, hard work and key placement to get it to stick.

    The “I was wronged” ranter, just comes off as shrill and ill-informed.

  • Christopher Coulter

    Bad news doesn’t actually travel all that fast, it needs someone to spray the gasoline and start the fire. People rant about everything, it takes some serious analysis, hard work and key placement to get it to stick.

    The “I was wronged” ranter, just comes off as shrill and ill-informed.

  • Christopher Coulter

    Bad news doesn’t actually travel all that fast, it needs someone to spray the gasoline and start the fire. People rant about everything, it takes some serious analysis, hard work and key placement to get it to stick.

    The “I was wronged” ranter, just comes off as shrill and ill-informed.

  • Christopher Coulter

    Bad news doesn’t actually travel all that fast, it needs someone to spray the gasoline and start the fire. People rant about everything, it takes some serious analysis, hard work and key placement to get it to stick.

    The “I was wronged” ranter, just comes off as shrill and ill-informed.

  • Christopher Coulter

    Bad news doesn’t actually travel all that fast, it needs someone to spray the gasoline and start the fire. People rant about everything, it takes some serious analysis, hard work and key placement to get it to stick.

    The “I was wronged” ranter, just comes off as shrill and ill-informed.

  • Christopher Coulter

    Bad news doesn’t actually travel all that fast, it needs someone to spray the gasoline and start the fire. People rant about everything, it takes some serious analysis, hard work and key placement to get it to stick.

    The “I was wronged” ranter, just comes off as shrill and ill-informed.

  • Christopher Coulter

    Bad news doesn’t actually travel all that fast, it needs someone to spray the gasoline and start the fire. People rant about everything, it takes some serious analysis, hard work and key placement to get it to stick.

    The “I was wronged” ranter, just comes off as shrill and ill-informed.

  • Christopher Coulter

    Bad news doesn’t actually travel all that fast, it needs someone to spray the gasoline and start the fire. People rant about everything, it takes some serious analysis, hard work and key placement to get it to stick.

    The “I was wronged” ranter, just comes off as shrill and ill-informed.

  • Christopher Coulter

    Bad news doesn’t actually travel all that fast, it needs someone to spray the gasoline and start the fire. People rant about everything, it takes some serious analysis, hard work and key placement to get it to stick.

    The “I was wronged” ranter, just comes off as shrill and ill-informed.

  • Christopher Coulter

    Bad news doesn’t actually travel all that fast, it needs someone to spray the gasoline and start the fire. People rant about everything, it takes some serious analysis, hard work and key placement to get it to stick.

    The “I was wronged” ranter, just comes off as shrill and ill-informed.

  • Christopher Coulter

    Bad news doesn’t actually travel all that fast, it needs someone to spray the gasoline and start the fire. People rant about everything, it takes some serious analysis, hard work and key placement to get it to stick.

    The “I was wronged” ranter, just comes off as shrill and ill-informed.

  • Christopher Coulter

    Bad news doesn’t actually travel all that fast, it needs someone to spray the gasoline and start the fire. People rant about everything, it takes some serious analysis, hard work and key placement to get it to stick.

    The “I was wronged” ranter, just comes off as shrill and ill-informed.

  • Christopher Coulter

    Bad news doesn’t actually travel all that fast, it needs someone to spray the gasoline and start the fire. People rant about everything, it takes some serious analysis, hard work and key placement to get it to stick.

    The “I was wronged” ranter, just comes off as shrill and ill-informed.

  • Bruce

    Hi,
    related to my post above 1:44 pm
    the firmware link has been updated
    Released as of 1/19/09 3:17pm.. Old one was released on1/18/08 at6:49 does not work.

  • Bruce

    Hi,
    related to my post above 1:44 pm
    the firmware link has been updated
    Released as of 1/19/09 3:17pm.. Old one was released on1/18/08 at6:49 does not work.

  • Bruce

    Hi,
    related to my post above 1:44 pm
    the firmware link has been updated
    Released as of 1/19/09 3:17pm.. Old one was released on1/18/08 at6:49 does not work.

  • Bruce

    Hi,
    related to my post above 1:44 pm
    the firmware link has been updated
    Released as of 1/19/09 3:17pm.. Old one was released on1/18/08 at6:49 does not work.

  • Bruce

    Hi,
    related to my post above 1:44 pm
    the firmware link has been updated
    Released as of 1/19/09 3:17pm.. Old one was released on1/18/08 at6:49 does not work.

  • Bruce

    Hi,
    related to my post above 1:44 pm
    the firmware link has been updated
    Released as of 1/19/09 3:17pm.. Old one was released on1/18/08 at6:49 does not work.

  • Bruce

    Hi,
    related to my post above 1:44 pm
    the firmware link has been updated
    Released as of 1/19/09 3:17pm.. Old one was released on1/18/08 at6:49 does not work.

  • Bruce

    Hi,
    related to my post above 1:44 pm
    the firmware link has been updated
    Released as of 1/19/09 3:17pm.. Old one was released on1/18/08 at6:49 does not work.

  • Bruce

    Hi,
    related to my post above 1:44 pm
    the firmware link has been updated
    Released as of 1/19/09 3:17pm.. Old one was released on1/18/08 at6:49 does not work.

  • Bruce

    Hi,
    related to my post above 1:44 pm
    the firmware link has been updated
    Released as of 1/19/09 3:17pm.. Old one was released on1/18/08 at6:49 does not work.

  • Bruce

    Hi,
    related to my post above 1:44 pm
    the firmware link has been updated
    Released as of 1/19/09 3:17pm.. Old one was released on1/18/08 at6:49 does not work.

  • Bruce

    Hi,
    related to my post above 1:44 pm
    the firmware link has been updated
    Released as of 1/19/09 3:17pm.. Old one was released on1/18/08 at6:49 does not work.