Real Time News to take step forward today

In a little while, at about 4 p.m., I will be at a small company in Silicon Valley to introduce another key piece of the Real-Time Web to you. This time it’s about news.

You’ve seen the news from Google announced today, but their news display is, while cool, unsatisfying because it isn’t showing news in real time.

This is a real hole that Google and Yahoo have left in the marketplace. They didn’t get a clue about how Twitter is changing how lots of us get our news. I now start the day by looking at trending topics on Twitter Search to know what big news events have happened overnight.

But Twitter doesn’t catch everything. I didn’t see Oracle buying Sun Microsystems there first. In fact, even Techmeme was very slow this morning to catch onto that tech industry news.

How did I catch it? I have an entire screen dedicated to the new service that will announce today.

I’ll broadcast it live in video. Watch my friendfeed for links. See you at about 4 p.m. Pacific Time. Of course it will be live so you can ask questions of the CEO and team, too. I’ve been using this tool since December and I’m convinced it will force Google and Yahoo to change their news pages.

Comments

  1. I start the day by looking at trending topics on Drudge Report, Slashdot, CNET, Wired, Breitbart and Art and Letters and dozens of others…Twitter Search is pointless noise central, with the Techmeme’s being wholly circular, and the Google Newsy algorithms being old-oatmeal mushy. Humans work better, just not in 160 characters.

    Skygrid is just an investor chatter gatherer, instead of traditional news sources, pulls in from more sources, but really just another dressed-up algorithm, playing up the semantics and natural language kicks. Customized mush, with noise filters, might be something. But raw information is only the first step, analysis is where it will always be. Real-time is never a good point to do proper assessments. Hedge fund guys on speed will love this tho. The big tip-off tho, is having space-cadet Esther Dyson as an investor…short-sell signal already.

  2. I start the day by looking at trending topics on Drudge Report, Slashdot, CNET, Wired, Breitbart and Art and Letters and dozens of others…Twitter Search is pointless noise central, with the Techmeme’s being wholly circular, and the Google Newsy algorithms being old-oatmeal mushy. Humans work better, just not in 160 characters.

    Skygrid is just an investor chatter gatherer, instead of traditional news sources, pulls in from more sources, but really just another dressed-up algorithm, playing up the semantics and natural language kicks. Customized mush, with noise filters, might be something. But raw information is only the first step, analysis is where it will always be. Real-time is never a good point to do proper assessments. Hedge fund guys on speed will love this tho. The big tip-off tho, is having space-cadet Esther Dyson as an investor…short-sell signal already.

  3. I think the real time web is changing the way we get our notifications – an indication of what is happening now – but is not affecting how we get our ‘news’, when the definition of news is fact-checked journalism, or analysis, or good stories.

    In some cases, notifications (ie earthquakes) don’t need checking, they’re happening. So are first person accounts and experiences. But research and confirmation and analysis takes time. For those things, I prefer the more traditional outlets, whether the BBC (your TV station/web of choice) or the newspapers. Some of those are in danger of death, as per your previous post, because of their lateness to the party.

    A good example of a real-time notification was #amazonfail. Something was happening – but the outrage in the real-time web jumped from conclusion to conclusion. The real ‘news’ will happen once all the pieces have been pulled together and the story analysed and somebody manages find out what the failures in the process were. At that point, most of the people who tweeted or friendfeeded or all that stuff are unlikely to correct themselves.

  4. I think the real time web is changing the way we get our notifications – an indication of what is happening now – but is not affecting how we get our ‘news’, when the definition of news is fact-checked journalism, or analysis, or good stories.

    In some cases, notifications (ie earthquakes) don’t need checking, they’re happening. So are first person accounts and experiences. But research and confirmation and analysis takes time. For those things, I prefer the more traditional outlets, whether the BBC (your TV station/web of choice) or the newspapers. Some of those are in danger of death, as per your previous post, because of their lateness to the party.

    A good example of a real-time notification was #amazonfail. Something was happening – but the outrage in the real-time web jumped from conclusion to conclusion. The real ‘news’ will happen once all the pieces have been pulled together and the story analysed and somebody manages find out what the failures in the process were. At that point, most of the people who tweeted or friendfeeded or all that stuff are unlikely to correct themselves.

  5. Hey Robert,

    great show on skygrid. Wondering if you could answer couple questions -

    1) It’s primarily for financial news right? It doesn’t cover movies etc

    2) Do you have any invites?

  6. Hey Robert,

    great show on skygrid. Wondering if you could answer couple questions -

    1) It’s primarily for financial news right? It doesn’t cover movies etc

    2) Do you have any invites?

  7. Hi Robert,

    Have you seen hookk? It maps citizen reactions to the news in a sidebar next to the news item.

    The hookk can be no longer than 120 characters and is generally the subtext to an article.

    The interesting thing is that it has been launched “sea worthy” as the founder puts it. So you can follow them on twitter to see the site being built as it is being used.

    Worth checking out. http://hookk.comhttp://twitter.com/hookk

  8. Hello Robert, this is Ken Stein out of Santa Barbara, CA.

    Web applications and sites tend to illustrate an insensitivity to human experience. Technologists’ fascination with technology as something outside of and distinct from humanity points to this lack of sensitivity in the conceptualization and formation of web technologies. Such a fascination with technology becomes part of the weave of the technology itself. Rather than invisibly serving the needs of people, the technology becomes the subject, and the web serves as a technology “showcase.”

    I used to think that we were at a place to incorporate an appreciation of personhood into the design of web software. By adapting to individual Users, software could then point each User to information and other Users without being specifically requested to do so by a User. I’m now of the opinion that in order to bring about what I refer to as Web2.U, technologists will first have to learn more about human nature. Note that ‘human nature’ is a misnomer! What makes us human and distinct is a function of ‘nuturing.’ But who’s heard of ‘human nurture’, until now?

    How will technologists acquire the understanding necessary to bring about web2.u? First, we will develop a far more interactive web. I have been developing software in which the interval for interacting is as immediate as possible, and certainly not on the order of hours or minutes. In fact, I would go so far as to claim that:

    “A ‘genuine interaction’ is one that occurs at a rate that affords the natural flow of emotion for the given activity.”

    Having such in place will then afford technologists a view of real people having ‘real’ interactions. Then look out, because it’s then we’ll see the emergence of web2.U. I envision it as a personal agent we each have that’ll be able to help point each of us towards other people, information, and even goals that we might otherwise have missed. Talk to my agent will have a whole new meaning.

    Until then, because it’s so darn much to effectuate even small change, I’ve put off the ideas for web2.U and have been focusing on the interactive web, developing interactions that occur at a rate that affords the natural flow of emotions for the given activity. One example is in the form of a posting at my weblog, On Valuing Creative Thinking.

    Additionally, I’ve coded up my site plexav.com to serve as a testbed for a technology that I’ve been developing. My goal, “to make apparent to others opportunities they would otherwise have failed to note.”
    tell people

    And finally, I’ve developed something that I think will really get you excited and I’m hoping that we might chat for a few minutes, as I think you’re in a great spot to leverage the value it provides!!

    Hoping to hear from you via email.

    Summum Bonum,

    Kenneth Stein

  9. Hello Robert, this is Ken Stein out of Santa Barbara, CA.

    Web applications and sites tend to illustrate an insensitivity to human experience. Technologists’ fascination with technology as something outside of and distinct from humanity points to this lack of sensitivity in the conceptualization and formation of web technologies. Such a fascination with technology becomes part of the weave of the technology itself. Rather than invisibly serving the needs of people, the technology becomes the subject, and the web serves as a technology “showcase.”

    I used to think that we were at a place to incorporate an appreciation of personhood into the design of web software. By adapting to individual Users, software could then point each User to information and other Users without being specifically requested to do so by a User. I’m now of the opinion that in order to bring about what I refer to as Web2.U, technologists will first have to learn more about human nature. Note that ‘human nature’ is a misnomer! What makes us human and distinct is a function of ‘nuturing.’ But who’s heard of ‘human nurture’, until now?

    How will technologists acquire the understanding necessary to bring about web2.u? First, we will develop a far more interactive web. I have been developing software in which the interval for interacting is as immediate as possible, and certainly not on the order of hours or minutes. In fact, I would go so far as to claim that:

    “A ‘genuine interaction’ is one that occurs at a rate that affords the natural flow of emotion for the given activity.”

    Having such in place will then afford technologists a view of real people having ‘real’ interactions. Then look out, because it’s then we’ll see the emergence of web2.U. I envision it as a personal agent we each have that’ll be able to help point each of us towards other people, information, and even goals that we might otherwise have missed. Talk to my agent will have a whole new meaning.

    Until then, because it’s so darn much to effectuate even small change, I’ve put off the ideas for web2.U and have been focusing on the interactive web, developing interactions that occur at a rate that affords the natural flow of emotions for the given activity. One example is in the form of a posting at my weblog, On Valuing Creative Thinking.

    Additionally, I’ve coded up my site plexav.com to serve as a testbed for a technology that I’ve been developing. My goal, “to make apparent to others opportunities they would otherwise have failed to note.”
    tell people

    And finally, I’ve developed something that I think will really get you excited and I’m hoping that we might chat for a few minutes, as I think you’re in a great spot to leverage the value it provides!!

    Hoping to hear from you via email.

    Summum Bonum,

    Kenneth Stein

  10. I agree the real-time news would be great, and is great, but getting news through twitter trending topics is not ideal. Do you really get the good news. Here’s what’s trending right now:

    Susan Boyle
    Miss California
    Ben & Jerry’s
    Lions
    Oracle
    Perez Hilton
    #IPL
    Stellan
    #gknr
    Miss USA

  11. I agree the real-time news would be great, and is great, but getting news through twitter trending topics is not ideal. Do you really get the good news. Here’s what’s trending right now:

    Susan Boyle
    Miss California
    Ben & Jerry’s
    Lions
    Oracle
    Perez Hilton
    #IPL
    Stellan
    #gknr
    Miss USA

  12. Thought this was relevant: http://simonmainwaring.com/blog/uncategorized/in-a-flutter-over-timely-vs-timeless-communication/

    As our lives are increasingly consumed by Facebook pages, IM, Twitter, RSS feeds, Digg Thumbs Up’s, url shorteners, embedded HTML, emoticons and hyperlinks, there is little doubt about the premium placed on timely information. It has reached a point where the value of information seemingly diminishes in direct proportion to how old it is. As if an article written six months ago might well as be ten years old.

    This tendency will only increase as we hurtle towards a real-time web. FriendFeed has launched the world’s first real-time, live streaming, social media service that is set to revolutionize all media. Yet as people constantly and seamlessly update their “lifestream”, I wonder about the role of meaningful communication?

    The funny – and yes timely – Flutter April Fools joke (below) parodied our growing obsession with instantaneous information, exposing the growing misunderstanding that the newness of a means of communication automatically makes that communication meaningful.

    The important distinction, as Zeus Jones points out, is that while real time information loses value over time, timeless pieces grow in value.

    When you consider brands also rely on an emotional connection with their customers to motivate their behavior, this confusion can be costly. Of course, a meaningful connection isn’t always timeless but the same limitations apply. Hoping to generate trust, interest or loyalty in 140 characters alone is as misguided as a guy wheeling out his best one-liner at a bar. Brands must use a composite of media to build an effective relationship with their customers, rather than see social media as an end in itself. Even when a brand, its products or social entrepreneurship becomes the focal point for conversation it must also play the overarching role of “aggregator and curator”, as Joseph Jaffe asserts, “to provide a place where consumers can see the conversations pulled together, engage with the brand, hear the story in the brand’s voice”.

    A means of communication is not an end in itself. It exists to create a connection that enables us to recognize ourselves in others. If our daily exchanges are reduced to a teeming sea of quips, asides and blunt reductions, we simply enlist ourselves in the service of data tracking. As if our lives were some enormous marketing focus group and our communication ticks for empty boxes.

    When communication becomes a shooting gallery, the first casualty is dialogue that adds meaning to our lives. As both marketers and consumers, we would be foolish to let this happen.

    PS. Thx for all the insights and thinking, Robert.

  13. Thought this was relevant: http://simonmainwaring.com/blog/uncategorized/in-a-flutter-over-timely-vs-timeless-communication/

    As our lives are increasingly consumed by Facebook pages, IM, Twitter, RSS feeds, Digg Thumbs Up’s, url shorteners, embedded HTML, emoticons and hyperlinks, there is little doubt about the premium placed on timely information. It has reached a point where the value of information seemingly diminishes in direct proportion to how old it is. As if an article written six months ago might well as be ten years old.

    This tendency will only increase as we hurtle towards a real-time web. FriendFeed has launched the world’s first real-time, live streaming, social media service that is set to revolutionize all media. Yet as people constantly and seamlessly update their “lifestream”, I wonder about the role of meaningful communication?

    The funny – and yes timely – Flutter April Fools joke (below) parodied our growing obsession with instantaneous information, exposing the growing misunderstanding that the newness of a means of communication automatically makes that communication meaningful.

    The important distinction, as Zeus Jones points out, is that while real time information loses value over time, timeless pieces grow in value.

    When you consider brands also rely on an emotional connection with their customers to motivate their behavior, this confusion can be costly. Of course, a meaningful connection isn’t always timeless but the same limitations apply. Hoping to generate trust, interest or loyalty in 140 characters alone is as misguided as a guy wheeling out his best one-liner at a bar. Brands must use a composite of media to build an effective relationship with their customers, rather than see social media as an end in itself. Even when a brand, its products or social entrepreneurship becomes the focal point for conversation it must also play the overarching role of “aggregator and curator”, as Joseph Jaffe asserts, “to provide a place where consumers can see the conversations pulled together, engage with the brand, hear the story in the brand’s voice”.

    A means of communication is not an end in itself. It exists to create a connection that enables us to recognize ourselves in others. If our daily exchanges are reduced to a teeming sea of quips, asides and blunt reductions, we simply enlist ourselves in the service of data tracking. As if our lives were some enormous marketing focus group and our communication ticks for empty boxes.

    When communication becomes a shooting gallery, the first casualty is dialogue that adds meaning to our lives. As both marketers and consumers, we would be foolish to let this happen.

    PS. Thx for all the insights and thinking, Robert.

  14. Robert,

    I think Tony Hsieh is pretty progressive as far as online retailers go. To me the important thing here is that he is showing that he cares and is connected to his customers and the pulse of what’s going on. Well done…

    Areg

  15. Robert,

    I think Tony Hsieh is pretty progressive as far as online retailers go. To me the important thing here is that he is showing that he cares and is connected to his customers and the pulse of what’s going on. Well done…

    Areg

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  17. Hi Robert,

    Have you seen hookk? It maps citizen reactions to the news in a sidebar next to the news item.

    The hookk can be no longer than 120 characters and is generally the subtext to an article.

    The interesting thing is that it has been launched “sea worthy” as the founder puts it. So you can follow them on twitter to see the site being built as it is being used.

    Worth checking out. http://hookk.comhttp://twitter.com/hookk