The worst things startups do

I visit a lot of startups, the video here is of Posterous, a company that is doing it right. Usually you can tell immediately whether a startup is really run well (which Posterous is). You’ll have your own ability to “smell” real startups when you go on the Startup Crawl in SF on November 20. Start the video to listen to Posterous’s founders and then compare them to your favorite startup. Can you see the difference?

Here’s some things that startups that aren’t run well do:

1. Have plush offices in the most expensive part of town. Come on, who are you fooling? You are burning someone else’s money and you aren’t spending it like it’s your own.
2. You can’t tell me what you do in a single Tweet. See that super complicated Toyota Prius in my driveway? It gets better mileage than your car. If you can’t explain why your product is better, the way I just did with the Toyota Prius, in a short space or time on the phone you won’t make it.
3. If I look around and don’t see programmers. I can smell programmers. A good company is full of them. Posterous, for instance, has ONLY programmers. FriendFeed had something like 13 programmers and one other person. Great ratio.
4. You hire a PR firm. Now this one is dangerous, but the best companies have let their customers do the talking for them. At Rackspace, for instance, they worked to stay out of the public eye and worked on building the best service organization web hosting had ever seen. The best companies, when small, have just gotten good at telling their stories. I still remember when Stewart Butterfield showed me Flickr. He didn’t have any PR flacks with him. Now, maybe a PR company was helping them behind the scenes or to take care of leads and all the other stuff that goes with building a company but it wasn’t the first interaction I had with the company. Nothing like having a CEO or CTO just show you the product and explain why it’s better. 4b: you don’t have a blog and a Twitter account. Even worse if you have a PR firm and you don’t have both of those things.
5. They spend money on the wrong things. I’ve been in more than one startup that had bad chairs and small screens for their engineers but they had an expensive coffee machine. Let me make this clear: you have 18 months to build your business. You have figured out how to get some programmers to work with you. Make them as absolutely productive as they can be. Buy them a decent chair and get them at least two large screen high res monitors with fast computers. Remember SOASTA? Every engineer had a 30-inch monitor both at home and at work along with a MacPro (you can see one of those monitors in the interview I did with them). That was a HUGE recruiting tool and I think it was key in helping them keep their best people and, hey, I hear they are doing well.
6. (This should be #1) They don’t fire fast enough. I’ll be honest, at Podtech me and another guy were pulling the company in different directions. John should have fired one of us. He didn’t. The story got muddled. The rest is history. (In those situations it doesn’t really matter who is right, either, you gotta pick one direction and go with it, startups don’t have enough resources to try out two directions). I’ve seen lots of other startups be slow to fire people who weren’t pulling their weight. Always bad because the best people get pissed and/or leave. Again, you need to have everyone pulling with all their weight in one direction. If that isn’t happening the startup probably isn’t firing people fast enough.
7. You picked the wrong infrastructure. I’ll let you read into that what you want because I’m biased here (I’m a Rackspace Web Hosting employee), but ask great startups and you’ll hear some common themes here.
8. You let VCs control your management team and strategy too early. There’s lots of advice out on the Internet about this one, so I’ll leave it for you to figure out. But your early decisions will have big leverage on your company later. Hire the wrong management team and your company won’t make it to the B-round. I’m not experienced enough to give good advice here, but I’ve seen what happens up front. I remember meeting one CEO of one company that was just, well, let’s say clueless. How did he get hired? The VCs put him in.
9. You have a too cool name and logo. Oh, OK, this isn’t a worst thing, but companies spend too much time worrying about them (it’s a sign that you have too much money before you even have a company and customers, which is a bad sign). That said, I just interviewed a company named rrripple. Now if you end up with a name like that maybe you should spend at least 20 more minutes thinking through your name! (Sorry Rrripple).
10. You say yes too often, particularly in engineering decisions. Look at Posterous (the video embedded on this blog). They have a blog publishing tool. But are their comments threaded? No. Will they be eventually? Yes! Why didn’t they do them threaded up front? Because they set priorities on other things that mattered more. That’s actually a good sign for a startup: if you have only four engineers you can’t do everything. If there’s one thing I like about Evan Williams, founder of Blogger and Twitter, is that he doesn’t try to do it all. In fact he prides himself on NOT doing things. It takes great leadership to say “no, Scoble, you can’t have more than 500 members on a list.”
11. Startups pick old technology because it’s familiar. You’re a startup, you should be picking the best of breed for everything you do. If you are using Microsoft Office “just because” then you are making a mistake. Have you considered Jive, SocialText, Zoho, Google Docs and Spreadsheets and Wave before making your choices? Have you really looked at ways to make your small company more productive? Or you just going with the same stuff your dad’s company used?
12. You don’t change direction fast enough. Every startup should be looking at its direction every month or so. Are things going according to plan? If not, fix them. But sometimes you just made bad assumptions about what the market would want from you. That’s OK! But don’t take a year to change directions, change quickly and you’ll have a chance to save the company.

What other mistakes do you see startups make?

Aside, if you work for a startup, I’d love to know the tools you are using for a list I’m keeping that I call “weapons for entrepreneurs.” I would love to know what tools/companies you’re using to outrun everyone.

  • http://marketingtechblog.com Douglas Karr

    I believe many start with a great idea, and let ego and developers get in the way of the actual demands of the application. I love developers, but I'd run like hell from a company with 13 developers and 1 other person. I've seen way too many brilliant developers take down a product because they don't have an understanding of what the customer is actually trying to solve. Developers develop for developers – product managers create the vision based on the needs of the customer.

  • http://scobleizer.com Scobleizer

    I agree with you sort of. The point I was trying to make is that if a company is all executives and no workers you can smell that. Maybe the ratio shouldn't be 13:1, but the best companies I've visited are at least 4:1. FriendFeed is a weird one because that one company had superstars (one guy ran the teams that started Gmail, another Google Maps, another Google Talk).

  • http://marketingtechblog.com Douglas Karr

    I also love the autonomy that Google provides its team leaders!

  • pxlated

    I agree with the “too” cool name logo – but – I've worked with a lot of startups over my career (mostly in medical or computer tech) and in almost every case they've hired pros at the start to help name it and develop an identity. They have a lot of mentor companies like Medtronic as guides to how it's done. A good name/identity is useful from the start, it symbolizes the company, something employees can rally under.

    Agree with Douglas and see you've modified/clarified.

  • http://lagesse.org kr8tr

    As painful as it is to admit – I've made a good number of these mistakes. And some other, most notably, “believing your own bullshit”. And by this I mean that it is way to easy to think that you are smarter than anyone – after all – this IS your idea. Who could know better?

    Turns out a lot of people can. Especially your intended users. And not listening to them is the most fatal mistake you can make. Ignore the managers, ignore the money guys – but ignore your users at your own peril!

  • http://lagesse.org kr8tr

    As painful as it is to admit – I've made a good number of these mistakes. And some other, most notably, “believing your own bullshit”. And by this I mean that it is way to easy to think that you are smarter than anyone – after all – this IS your idea. Who could know better?

    Turns out a lot of people can. Especially your intended users. And not listening to them is the most fatal mistake you can make. Ignore the managers, ignore the money guys – but ignore your users at your own peril!

  • http://scobleizer.com Scobleizer

    Yeah, of all the points I made this one is the weakest. Good for pointing it out.

  • pxlated

    The biggest problem I see – and to your point of “too” cute – is a lot of names/logos in the software tech area are very fashionable, too today, too flavor of the week and not built to last and rally under long term. If you're building a company to flip it may not make a difference but if you're building something to last one might be better off looking at well established, internationally oriented identities like 3M, GE, Dell, Apple, etc. Nothing cute but very clean and effective.

    • J S

      Most logos evolve over time. They are relaunched. The logo gets ‘more professional’ and entrenched as the company survives and prospers. Remember “Federal Express” logo as those two words? now their logo is “fedEx” and notice the world dot and arrow inside the new logo. AT&T logo has had many revisions over the years.

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  • prasen88

    Great post Robert.

    I am the founder of a social gaming startup that is trying to get really good graphics and fluid gameplay to the internet browser minus the plugins.

    Could we please meet to discuss this – Soon?

    Thanks!

  • robertgreene

    I agree with almost of your comments. As a recruiter for start-ups in the SF Bay Area I've seen it all.

    A big mistake start-ups make as well, as I see it is hire the wrong recruiting firm (s). Co's should make sure they do their due dilligence on what firms they work with when hiring.

    Another tip- I've found that start-ups that I work with who treat me and other recruiters well- usually suceed. Most of the one's who don't know how to hire, and can't figure out how to hire, usually fail.

  • Guy Kawasaki
  • ahockley

    Great list… some really good points, but I had to do a double-take when you praise Ev telling you that your lists are limited to 500 members…. I have memories of you being REALLY loud about the 5,000 friend limit on Facebook.

    Other than that, there are some great discussion points and a lot of startups would do well to take a look at themselves with this list in hand.

  • MrT

    The idea man doesn’t take the time to research more of the tech end of things and assumes the programmers and developers will “come through” since they said “yes I can” over and over again. Then they f*ck it all up by wasting time and being..”like, dude…you know’..like”……nonchalant about everything.

    yes, it DOES happen! :)

  • http://www.gautamblogs.com Gautam Ghosh

    One big mistake startups do is picking up baggage that makes change described in point 12 difficult to execute. That's because they don't communicate face to face with the programmers much – assuming everybody knows what is the rationale behind these changes.

  • http://twitter.com/SamBensalem Sam Bensalem

    Robert, Please tell me in one tweet what twitter is?

  • Douchebag

    You can smell programmers?

  • Oscar

    Your Prius is better because it gets good gas mileage is pretty naive. I could say my car is better because it handles better and looks nicer. We’re not in kindergarten where we need to compare just one aspect and then claim Winner.

  • Mark Allen

    I'll bet FriendFeed would have had a fighter's chance at mainstream adoption if it were not entirely run by engineers, even (especially?) superstars. Instead it was used only by developers and developer-ish people, and ended up being purchased as a technology buy for a lot less than it could have been.

  • http://edwink.devhd.com Edwin Khodabakchian

    Great interview. Great post. Scoble is back!

  • http://edwink.devhd.com Edwin Khodabakchian

    Great interview. Great post. Scoble is back!

  • http://comicstripblog.com/ Comic Strip Blogger

    good list, Robert, but you’ve forgotten: outdated and/or not good enough APIs. Mevio for example lately updated their APIs in 2006 and they are very limited and it’s not possible to do many things through them.

  • http://www.victusspiritus.com/ Mark Essel

    Thanks Robert! Your passionate first hand perspective, always gets me jazzed up about best and worst parts of creating a business. I'll keep that ratio of developers/non developers in mind. I think founders have to wear a lot of hats at the get go. That detracts from coding time.

    I'm still trying to contrast the minimum viable product or the minimalistic artistic design of a product/service with perceived (and measured!) user needs. It's certainly the most fascinating problem space I've worked in.

    almost forgot: I think in the next decade we'll see more lay people (non coders) creating software products with easier to use tools. Why? The software pros only give incremental increases (10% tops over nominal good algorithms, look at netflix), and we need to unlock the genie of field experts creating their own tools. More to come on this later.

  • http://nathan@nathanwaters.com Nathan Waters

    Good post, but please replace blip.tv… that thing is horrible and horribly slow.

  • http://tav.espians.com tav

    Hey Scoble,

    Great list! But I have to take issue slightly with #10 — I agree that setting priorities is important. Scope creep is indeed rather tragic.

    However, what if it was your startup's goal to change a lot of things? I think too many startups take it easy nowadays. They pick a niche and do one thing well.

    But this just leads to a lot of meaningless, trivial crap.

    And if you'd care to counter with “but they can start with one thing and gradually expand”, then I'd like to point to both Google and Facebook as counter-counter examples.

    Once your startup has launched and people have started using your services, they tend to be quite reluctant for you to change too many things underneath them — cf. the revolts at Facebook every time they tried to redo their UI.

    Now Facebook at least has tried and managed to succeed thus far, but Google doesn't even dare try too hard and instead stick to disparate sub-brands.

    The greatest innovations regarding the use of a tool tends to be at the start, e.g. email, social networks, etc. — After that it seems that people tend to stick to known patterns for the most part.

    So if it's your startup's goal to change a number of things, it should say *yes* to many things at the start! Change the game, hit for the fences and all that. Of course, how this is resourced is another challenge in itself…

    Hope the above made some sense?

  • http://www.spencerfry.com/ Spencer Fry

    I agree with everything except for the “you can't have too many programmers” bit. Having creative people that can think through good product and web design is very important. If the experience and product is not designed well, it doesn't matter how many programmers you have. Even the best programmers won't be able to program a good experience out of it.

  • phallstrom

    “Developers develop for developers – product managers create the vision based on the needs of the customer.”

    Sort of.

    Bad developers develop for developers. Good product managers create the vision based on the needs of the customer.

    Good developers will look at the needs of the customer. Bad product managers will make decisions based on their own ideas.

    In both cases they should be looking at the customer needs and the ROI. If they can't frame their decisions in regards to that it's not going to work out.

  • Richard

    Not sure if MS Office is the worst choice you could make. I definitely pull for new tech but sometimes the limited time you have means you don’t want to interrogate what types of door handles you need :)

  • robgray

    That guy in the background is like a human statue. I've never seen anyone sit that still for so long.

  • http://twitter.com/zbowling zbowling

    Good. I guess we are doing it right at doubletwist.

  • http://www.wizardofaus.wordpress.com/ Caleb Roy

    This entire article just to plug Posterous? Good veil my man… good veil.

  • cc

    Life is absurd, a company can do ALL the wrong things, yet succeed beyond, or they can do all the right things and fail miserably, which is why VCs bet on all tables, to cash in on the few winners. It’s not a science and not even an art. And sometimes a start-up succeeds, even in spite of the Narcissistic Personality Disorder styled management, that inflicts most of the Valley.

    1. A posh office can attract a key client, or it can be wasteful rathole. Some big customer really isn’t going to want to goto some dive in a bad part of town.

    2. Elevator pitches miss things, a pitch is just the appetizer, to really know you have to know. So the Prius gets better gas milage, but drives like a toaster-oven, people have varying needs, you really need a list of features, not a tweet.

    3. Good companies HIDE the programmers from Marketing junkets, Microsoft being chief — customers don’t want to major in comp sci, they just want it to solve a problem.

    4. PR can be a buzz fluzz waste, or it can be salvation. No easy answers.

    5. Wrong is relative. Are all the free Cokes wrong? Some “wrong” things are part of the culture, and vital.

    6. Spend more time in hiring, so don’t hafata fire. People not on vision, shouldn’t even be on board.

    7. Infrastructure needs vary and are complex overlapping creatures.

    8. Dance with the Devil, he gets to pick the DJ.

    9. Cool can kill, or cool can be life-saving memorable. Again, not a science.

    10. Old tech can be supplemented (an add-on per se), in fact, that’s mostly how things develop. Supplement until overtakes, but sometimes that can be measured in the generational.

  • garyread

    Robert
    What a masterful article. I hope you don't mind but I took it and re-posted on my blog together with my comments (I of course gave full credit). Truly amazing how your article reflects real life at Nimsoft. And you know what….it's not popular opinion either – life at a start-up is not a bed of roses.

    Take a look http://www.nimsoft.com/blogs/

    Thanks

  • garyread

    Great, great article Robert. If I didn't know better, I'd have thought you'd been listening and watching in our offices as we started and grew this company.

    Hope you don't mind but I took it and re-purposed on my blog with my own comments/observations from real life at Nimsoft (full credit of course). You can see it at http://www.nimsoft.com/blogs/

    Thank you – this is real.

  • Brian Salter

    Regarding item 11: Another mistake startups make is to make changes for no reason. There’s a reason that people use Microsoft Office. Sure, it’s the worst kind of bloatware and waaay overpriced, but are you spending too much time trying to decide what to use when you really should be focused on your product? Changes for change-sake are a sure way to induce more risk. Accept risk when you must, only.

  • http://ericanderson.us Eric Anderson

    Scoble: How do you define a startup? What is its size? How long have they been going at it? At what point do you cut it off? Is Facebook a startup still?

  • http://coldacid.net Chris Charabaruk

    I'd love to see where Taskerrific scores on this. I'd come up with a number myself, but I'd obviously be biased about it.

  • denvan

    Aw man, I was going to say that, but since you took it back, I guess I'll skip the Scoble-bashing. As a guy who's named a number of startups, the problem is not that they spend too much money. It's either a) that they spend none at all and end up with a “rrripple” <ahem> or b) they spend it on a vanity project that focuses on “coolness” before functional-ness (which is where the products themselves usually go off the rails too).

    The key is getting a workable name that will DO something for them – i.e. help people remember / notice / refer to them, describe what they do, position them against competing products or ideas, whatever. That doesn't have to cost a lot. But it shouldn't cost nothing.

  • andrewhyde

    Can I add 'isolate' to the list? Startups that don't get out there and let people know what they are up to. Founders that don't make friends, go to a few conferences a year and participate in the conversations.

    Great list.

  • http://www.moneyisjustanidea.com RedMaven

    First off, excellent post! I am a serial entrepreneur along with my business partners from college, and we have seen a lot of the things you described in your post. I know one thing that startups don't do is really spend time building their infrastructure's foundation in the beginning so when they actually do start making money, everyone knows how the money will be spent.

  • pxlated

    Yes they do – It's kind of fun to look at the history of some of the major brands. In a lot of cases though, the logo is good/stable to start with and it's just tweaked for style or modernized, not completely changed.

  • http://twitter.com/BilleBaty Bille Baty

    Great job Scobleizer! I have to say the two most egregious on the list are #5 and #8.

    I dealt with one company that spent $20,000 on a conference table, which by the way you could not write on, it was volcanic stone with HUGE holes in it, but had the IT people sitting in folding chairs.

    The VC people ALWAYS want their people as the majority, if not all of the management team. So many times the “visionaries” who knew from the beginning what the “Wow Factor” is, are taken out of the decision making process and the vision is lost.

  • http://www.facebook.com/greenido Ido Green

    I would add (or replace #9) with: Focus – Focus – Focus.
    So many time you see start ups trying to do 'more with less' but in the end of the day they are missing the point of their core capability (or uniqueness).
    You must stay focus and say no to a lot of 'cool/new' features.

  • http://davidralbrecht.com/ David R. Albrecht

    I hate to be the fly in your eye Scoble, but #13…Have a business plan?

  • http://ad1987.blogspot.com/ Abhisek

    +10

  • http://www.facebook.com/ddirico Daniel DiRico

    I was thinking the same as Douglas, but I now understand what you meant there. This photo I saw on CNN recently of Apple in the early days seems to have the right ratio of Executive, PM, and Developer (and food) http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2009/fortune/091

  • http://dot.alter.si/ Jernej

    And here I was thinking that “weapons for entrepreneurs” link would lead to something useful… instead you give a twitter list full of noise and very little substance.

    Think you should have stopped before that last paragraph of an otherwise interesting post.

  • http://twitter.com/DlibrarieD DlibrarieD

    Nice list. I think that #2 says it all. If You can tell what you do in a single Tweet that means you are definitely on the right path. For a start it is already a win.

  • tbray09

    Their friends thought it was a great idea.
    They market is ill defined, the founders believe that social will give it direction and that long-tail will be the point of adoption.

    It is technology for technology's sake.
    This thing is so cool, everyone needs one. Everyone like you that is. How long did you say your lived in your parent's basement?

    Developers
    One day I walk out of my office and my leader designer says – “Look! I made the skeleton dance”. I say “Great! Are we ready for the medical conference next week?” The answer is of course, no.

  • http://mywebsiteworkout.com/personal-finances/ Shafi

    I don’t know what the optimal ratio would be among developers and others. But to start a new business, you need to do some research on what the customers needs are whether a developer does that or a marketing research person is hired. The ratio for the most part is irrelevant. Some companies thrive in their market because they have good business and marketing plan, others are successful because they have developed a good product. However, in the final analysis, the world is run by businessmen. The technology guys follow them. In my opinion, for any business, start-up or otherwise, tech must follow market.