Comments on: Google +will+ save Flash, a developer who uses it says

By: annejaa

annejaa — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 09:46:11 +0000

Wow that's great news!I love your blog..Now its became possible to save flash in Google.Thanks for sharing such a nice information and i will keep looking around for more information.

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By: michael2012

michael2012 — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:06:59 +0000

Huh? I don't work for Adobe. Why would you say that?

By: drunken_economist

drunken_economist — Sun, 07 Feb 2010 00:37:51 +0000

Sorry, but I disagree with you. Try Iospirit's 'Remote Buddy' AJAX Remote on your Android or iPhone. Bookmark it to your homescreen. Guess what? Native App experience, including faux VNC and clicking for manipulating your Mac for PowerPoint or Keynote Presentations.

And no, Flash apps on the iPhone suck. I've downloaded a couple and the framerate is subpar. A former Adobe and Apple dev has much the same experience:

http://blog.anscamobile.com/2010/02/flash-iphon...

And no, the real story here is the triumph of the user-centric model. Computers and 'platforms' are the means. Not the end.

By: drunken_economist

drunken_economist — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:55:56 +0000

So now Adobe is sending employees to rebut *comments* in blogs? Wow, taste the desperation...

Adobe must REALLY have a low self-esteem to be doing THAT. How about fixing your crappy PLUGIN instead of hanging out on Scooby's blog?

Here's a crasher you can work on right now:

http://www.tuaw.com/2010/02/06/16-month-old-bug...

Yeah, right, no crashing in Flash? Hah!

Adobe. Lazy and desperate. Not like this is news anymore. Flash IN PRACTICE is not searchable. It's a compiled binary that's only useful for closing content off from anyone who would want to search, scrape or syndicate it. That's why Flash decompilers exist, and why Google had to come up with a 'user emulation' algol to even get an index. A ham-handed solution at best. Thank you for pointing out that Adobe had NOTHING to do with this, it proves the 'lazy' point even more.

The SEO guys, and search RULE the internet. Pageviews and AdClicks. That's the WHOLE POINT of the commercial internet, driving users to your site. Flash doesn't fit in that equation. Not with the SEO guys, and not with Google.

If Adobe *had* the chops they'd make Flash searchable themselves. Or monetize it in some way. But all I see from Adobe is bluster, flailing and gnashing of teeth. And incessant M&A as they try to buy their way out of the hole they've dug for themselves.

By: michael2012

michael2012 — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:33:57 +0000

That's because the “SEO sites” are companies who already have turn-key products that they are selling based on HTML sites. It is in their interest to discount advances in Flash searchability. The technology, by the way, was implemented by Google, not by Adobe like you claim. There are plenty of examples of fully-indexable Flash content at the top of search rankings. Even further, the CS5

By: michael2012

michael2012 — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:29:12 +0000

Nobody ever said decades. My response was years, as opposed to “months.” Did you even read the post that I was responding to, or did you just copy and paste a knee-jerk reaction to somebody who happens to not agree with you?