Better “lifecasting” with Veodia

Funny, instead of heading up to the big Facebook shindig I went down to Veodia. Never heard of them? Well, Rafe Needleman, who runs the Webware blog, used Veodia to broadcast the Facebook shindig to the world.

Unfortunately the video that Rafe did is totally useless and doesn’t show off Veodia very well. If we’re going to do live cameras we need to have microphones that are directional. They are expensive. The one I used at CES cost about $900 but only picked up whoever you aim at.

Anyway, Veodia is aiming their service more at corporate types than competitors like Justin.tv, Ustream.tv, or the just-announced Blogtv.com.

What makes it better than those? For one, it uses standard MPEG, not Flash. So it works on Apple TV and iPods. For two, the quality usually is a lot better (if you have enough bandwidth to send a decent signal, which Rafe didn’t have).

Also, it does a lot better job at recording what’s being sent than Ustream does (it does it on the server side automatically and automatically replaces the video stream with the recording at the end of a broadcast).

Some cons against Veodia? They aren’t going with an advertising-based business model. That means they are going to charge the content providers if they use more than a preset amount of bandwidth (which hasn’t been set yet). While it’s free it’s a great service (and there will be a free version, even after they come out of beta) but it could get pricey for someone like me who can get thousands of people to watch a single show.

Also, they don’t yet support 16:9 video format so on Apple TV the video doesn’t fill the screen the way that my show, for instance, does. But they are working on that.

Oh, and you can only encode video from a PC so far, they are working on a Mac version.

Anyway, I’m running about three to four week lead times on my show, so this interview will be up in about a month.

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Comments

  1. Man, what a disaster. I have got to invest in better gear, as you suggest, but more importantly, I think I made a big mistake in using the press conference WiFi (which was horrid) instead of EVDO, which has a slower max speed but is more stable and reliable.

    Veodia is pretty good tech. Alternatives include ComVu (no embeddable player) and uStream (was having problems today).

  2. Man, what a disaster. I have got to invest in better gear, as you suggest, but more importantly, I think I made a big mistake in using the press conference WiFi (which was horrid) instead of EVDO, which has a slower max speed but is more stable and reliable.

    Veodia is pretty good tech. Alternatives include ComVu (no embeddable player) and uStream (was having problems today).

  3. Hey Robert-

    What mic DID you use a CES? I need a recommendation for a good directional shotgun stick mic for my Canon XH A1 HDV camera (any XLR mic is compatible).

    Got a link or any I should be sure to check out? I’m going to be doing a LOT more video for Intel soon, and I need to get a decent mic.

    I’ve been wanting to play with Veodia for a while, too. I got on the beta, and was disappointed in the lack of a Mac version. I know they’re working on it, though. Guess it’s ustream and blogtv.com for the time being.

    One other problem that’s common to all of the live video streaming services, as far as I know, is that they almost always don’t work behind any kind of a corporate proxy. I can’t get Veodia, ustream, or BlogTV to connect from Intel’s network. Bummer. I’ve been emailing with Tom from Veodia to try to figure something out, but that’s a big hurdle for these services, and whoever can make it “just work” will have a big advantage.

    Thanks! :-)

  4. Hey Robert-

    What mic DID you use a CES? I need a recommendation for a good directional shotgun stick mic for my Canon XH A1 HDV camera (any XLR mic is compatible).

    Got a link or any I should be sure to check out? I’m going to be doing a LOT more video for Intel soon, and I need to get a decent mic.

    I’ve been wanting to play with Veodia for a while, too. I got on the beta, and was disappointed in the lack of a Mac version. I know they’re working on it, though. Guess it’s ustream and blogtv.com for the time being.

    One other problem that’s common to all of the live video streaming services, as far as I know, is that they almost always don’t work behind any kind of a corporate proxy. I can’t get Veodia, ustream, or BlogTV to connect from Intel’s network. Bummer. I’ve been emailing with Tom from Veodia to try to figure something out, but that’s a big hurdle for these services, and whoever can make it “just work” will have a big advantage.

    Thanks! :-)

  5. Robert, thanks for stopping by today! I need to get one of those Sony HVR-V1J with directional mic, pretty cool.

    Rafe, sorry the connection was so lousy at the FaceBook press conf. You probably had another few hundred people trying to use the wifi. EV-DO should do it as long as there are not too many people on the same base station. Ideally you’d get a dedicated connection onsite but it’s not always easy…Can’t wait for WiMax!
    For info, here is the quality a descent DSL connection and a dual core computer gets you:
    http://www.veodia.com/beta/portal_scroller2.php?portal=903&user=demoaccount

    Josh: we’ll let you know when the mac plugin is out. It’s one of our #1 priorities (the 16×9 too now…), being a mac user myself. Bootcamp works well but I’d rather use native MacOS X. And about corporate networks: we actually tunnel the video out, and we were able to stream out from the HP, Microsoft, WebEx corporate networks with no change. It should work on the Intel network too…if you find it doesn’t, we’ll make it work for you!

  6. Robert, thanks for stopping by today! I need to get one of those Sony HVR-V1J with directional mic, pretty cool.

    Rafe, sorry the connection was so lousy at the FaceBook press conf. You probably had another few hundred people trying to use the wifi. EV-DO should do it as long as there are not too many people on the same base station. Ideally you’d get a dedicated connection onsite but it’s not always easy…Can’t wait for WiMax!
    For info, here is the quality a descent DSL connection and a dual core computer gets you:
    http://www.veodia.com/beta/portal_scroller2.php?portal=903&user=demoaccount

    Josh: we’ll let you know when the mac plugin is out. It’s one of our #1 priorities (the 16×9 too now…), being a mac user myself. Bootcamp works well but I’d rather use native MacOS X. And about corporate networks: we actually tunnel the video out, and we were able to stream out from the HP, Microsoft, WebEx corporate networks with no change. It should work on the Intel network too…if you find it doesn’t, we’ll make it work for you!

  7. I don’t think charging for this service is a deal breaker for those with heavy usage, as long as you can embed in your own site. Sure you have a lot of content with a lot of downloads but that means you have a lot more opportunities to display your own ads.
    So the service could still be monetized with ads but the content producer gets to pick the ads (or at least the ad service) instead of Veodia. Sure you have to assume the risk of the ads not paying enough, but in return you get more control and if your choice of ads does well there is no cap on your potential.

  8. I don’t think charging for this service is a deal breaker for those with heavy usage, as long as you can embed in your own site. Sure you have a lot of content with a lot of downloads but that means you have a lot more opportunities to display your own ads.
    So the service could still be monetized with ads but the content producer gets to pick the ads (or at least the ad service) instead of Veodia. Sure you have to assume the risk of the ads not paying enough, but in return you get more control and if your choice of ads does well there is no cap on your potential.

  9. Hi Robert,

    Thanks for your feature about Veodia. I have a beta-account with them and have been experimenting over the last week or so. I’m a UK web-based travel agent and have used my blog to good effect in the past in helping drive traffic to our travel sites but the whole Veodia concept is brilliant for us as we can actually create “live” broadcasts to our existing and potential clients telling them about us, our products, up-coming features, etc. I tried my first “live” broadcast last night. Bit of a disaster initially but it came good in the end.

    I’m blown away with Veodia and have told a bunch of industry colleagues who have also signed up for the beta-accounts.

    I love what your doing and for someone like me, techie-inclined but not techie by nature, the applications and the people you feature and your enthusiasm that really comes across make your blog and website an absolute must-see for me.

    Cant’ wait to see what your featuring next!

  10. Hi Robert,

    Thanks for your feature about Veodia. I have a beta-account with them and have been experimenting over the last week or so. I’m a UK web-based travel agent and have used my blog to good effect in the past in helping drive traffic to our travel sites but the whole Veodia concept is brilliant for us as we can actually create “live” broadcasts to our existing and potential clients telling them about us, our products, up-coming features, etc. I tried my first “live” broadcast last night. Bit of a disaster initially but it came good in the end.

    I’m blown away with Veodia and have told a bunch of industry colleagues who have also signed up for the beta-accounts.

    I love what your doing and for someone like me, techie-inclined but not techie by nature, the applications and the people you feature and your enthusiasm that really comes across make your blog and website an absolute must-see for me.

    Cant’ wait to see what your featuring next!