Um, Apple, Nokia N95 has Wifi

I just saw this comparison, done by Apple, which says that the Nokia N95 doesn’t have Wifi. That’s wrong. My Nokia N95 has Wifi built in and works quite well. It’s interesting what this chart doesn’t point out too. Things missing include:

1. Replaceable battery.
2. Swapable SIM card capability (unlocked, use with any carrier).
3. GPS.
4. Quad band with 3G capability.
5. Keyboard you can use without looking at the phone.
6. Java application compatibility.
7. .NET application compatibility.
8. Flash application compatibility.
9. Offline internet connected applications.

Of course Apple wouldn’t point THOSE out because they are not things the iPhone can do.

UPDATE: Apple updated its chart to fix the Nokia error.

Comments

  1. Robert, I think you’re mistaken. The iPhone must, by definition, be perfect. Apple never releases anything which doesn’t live up to the hype. Everyone wants a $600 phone! :)

  2. Robert, I think you’re mistaken. The iPhone must, by definition, be perfect. Apple never releases anything which doesn’t live up to the hype. Everyone wants a $600 phone! :)

  3. This fits with Apple’s long history of deceptive marketing practices. Great products, but questionable sales and marketing ethics.

  4. This fits with Apple’s long history of deceptive marketing practices. Great products, but questionable sales and marketing ethics.

  5. “Keyboard you can use without looking at the phone.”

    Why would you want to do that? Doing X whilst driving is not a good answer btw (but I see it all too often).

  6. “Keyboard you can use without looking at the phone.”

    Why would you want to do that? Doing X whilst driving is not a good answer btw (but I see it all too often).

  7. I’m sure the iPhone will have Flash Lite support at some point in the next quarter or two. That doesn’t mean much, however, as I would expect Adobe to release it for the N95 and similar phones at the same time.

  8. I’m sure the iPhone will have Flash Lite support at some point in the next quarter or two. That doesn’t mean much, however, as I would expect Adobe to release it for the N95 and similar phones at the same time.

  9. So, are you now saying that Apple is more honest after it updated the chart, or are they still relentlessly dishonest but just trying to trick us by appearing honest? (in the nanosecond before the haters start in, let me allege that i do not now, nor have i ever owned an ipod)

  10. So, are you now saying that Apple is more honest after it updated the chart, or are they still relentlessly dishonest but just trying to trick us by appearing honest? (in the nanosecond before the haters start in, let me allege that i do not now, nor have i ever owned an ipod)

  11. tapster: ahh, I meant to say 3G. So I updated my post to say that. Hey, everyone is making errors today! :-)

    Glad to hear that it’s quad band, though. I didn’t know that and glad to hear I’ll be able to use my iPhone around the world.

  12. tapster: ahh, I meant to say 3G. So I updated my post to say that. Hey, everyone is making errors today! :-)

    Glad to hear that it’s quad band, though. I didn’t know that and glad to hear I’ll be able to use my iPhone around the world.

  13. Greg: ahhh, I hope it does. I heard it didn’t have replaceable sim cards, but that wouldn’t make sense, would it? What I meant to say is “switch SIM cards with any carrier.” I heard the phone will only be compatible with Cingular/AT&T. Although at least one vendor is promising they’ll sell unlocked versions.

  14. Greg: ahhh, I hope it does. I heard it didn’t have replaceable sim cards, but that wouldn’t make sense, would it? What I meant to say is “switch SIM cards with any carrier.” I heard the phone will only be compatible with Cingular/AT&T. Although at least one vendor is promising they’ll sell unlocked versions.

  15. Robert,

    Any reason you’re still linking to the Digital Inspiration post, which as of 12:01 pm on June 18, still hasn’t updated their post to reflect the correrction on the Apple site? Shouldn’t you be sending your link love to a blog that actually is more timely on a big piece of information like this?

  16. Robert,

    Any reason you’re still linking to the Digital Inspiration post, which as of 12:01 pm on June 18, still hasn’t updated their post to reflect the correrction on the Apple site? Shouldn’t you be sending your link love to a blog that actually is more timely on a big piece of information like this?

  17. N95 is also iTunes compatible (connects via USB or wireless), but who needs iTunes when you can download your favourite podcasts straight to your phone with 3G/HSDPA?

  18. N95 is also iTunes compatible (connects via USB or wireless), but who needs iTunes when you can download your favourite podcasts straight to your phone with 3G/HSDPA?

  19. Robert, how many phones out there bought with a contract can you swap sims with other carriers? I bet dollars to donuts if I got a Nokia N95 with a contract from at&t (or anyone), I wouldn’t be able to plop any other sim card and talk away happily. So that point is utter moot at best.

  20. Robert, how many phones out there bought with a contract can you swap sims with other carriers? I bet dollars to donuts if I got a Nokia N95 with a contract from at&t (or anyone), I wouldn’t be able to plop any other sim card and talk away happily. So that point is utter moot at best.

  21. Apple seem to be making a bit of a habit of putting together erroneous comparisons like this. I posted today about their performance comparisons for Safari on Windows.

    I did a few little tests of my own over the weekend, and found them to be the exact opposite of what Apple claim.

    Interesting…

  22. Apple seem to be making a bit of a habit of putting together erroneous comparisons like this. I posted today about their performance comparisons for Safari on Windows.

    I did a few little tests of my own over the weekend, and found them to be the exact opposite of what Apple claim.

    Interesting…

  23. Robert,
    You inspired me to make a littel better chart for Apple. I’m not a fanboy of any of these phones although I’d love to have an iphone or even a blackjack for that matter, but the chart Apple is showing was simply a marketing ploy. I made a new and improved chart with just three phones for simplicity, but it shows the Iphone, the Nokia N95 and the Samsung Blackjack. It adds the weight, the true maximum talk time (not apples version of N95 or blackjack talk time and other stuff like data speed etc.

    Let me know what you guys think. I’ll add some other phones to the chart later today. Here’s the link to the chart I put up.

    A Better iPhone Comparison Chart

  24. Robert,
    You inspired me to make a littel better chart for Apple. I’m not a fanboy of any of these phones although I’d love to have an iphone or even a blackjack for that matter, but the chart Apple is showing was simply a marketing ploy. I made a new and improved chart with just three phones for simplicity, but it shows the Iphone, the Nokia N95 and the Samsung Blackjack. It adds the weight, the true maximum talk time (not apples version of N95 or blackjack talk time and other stuff like data speed etc.

    Let me know what you guys think. I’ll add some other phones to the chart later today. Here’s the link to the chart I put up.

    A Better iPhone Comparison Chart

  25. “Keyboard you can use without looking at the phone.”

    Ross, you might not be expert at it, but I often type SMS while not looking at my keypad. Admittedly I don’t type the whole message unlooked-at, but I can type a large part of it, and it saves time.

  26. “Keyboard you can use without looking at the phone.”

    Ross, you might not be expert at it, but I often type SMS while not looking at my keypad. Admittedly I don’t type the whole message unlooked-at, but I can type a large part of it, and it saves time.

  27. Does iPhone have a video camera? An FM radio? The Nokia N95 does.

    Mind you, the N95 doesn’t have RDS on its FM radio. The absence of RDS severely limits FM use on the move.

    (Scoble: I’m in the UK, not sure if you have RDS in the US?)

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  29. Does iPhone have a video camera? An FM radio? The Nokia N95 does.

    Mind you, the N95 doesn’t have RDS on its FM radio. The absence of RDS severely limits FM use on the move.

    (Scoble: I’m in the UK, not sure if you have RDS in the US?)

  30. Never seen iPhone live, but I have a N95 and that is just really mediocre product. The specs might look awesome, but it is just sooo unfinished. Take for example the GPS module which is strangely placed, you need to hold the phone in certain position in order to get good fix for the satellites. And the 5mpx camera is just a joke, it’s sooo slow because of the vast amount of information to store on slow memory card (or something similar technical glitch). Flash is nice though.

    The UI is just full of inconsistencies and bugs, it seems that parts of the product were created by different teams, there is no unifying vision in the design. Standard Nokia themes are just a joke compared to visuals we have seen from iPhone.

    I might be overexaggerating, but for me N95 is a nice geeky device to show off for people, but I actually use my Sony Ericsson W880 for calling / SMS / camera / music / internet etc.

    Even though the iPhone will certainly look worse from the technical specs point, I would still wait and see how the total iPhone user experience will be in the end. Because in daily use that matters, not the specs, I dare to claim.

  31. Never seen iPhone live, but I have a N95 and that is just really mediocre product. The specs might look awesome, but it is just sooo unfinished. Take for example the GPS module which is strangely placed, you need to hold the phone in certain position in order to get good fix for the satellites. And the 5mpx camera is just a joke, it’s sooo slow because of the vast amount of information to store on slow memory card (or something similar technical glitch). Flash is nice though.

    The UI is just full of inconsistencies and bugs, it seems that parts of the product were created by different teams, there is no unifying vision in the design. Standard Nokia themes are just a joke compared to visuals we have seen from iPhone.

    I might be overexaggerating, but for me N95 is a nice geeky device to show off for people, but I actually use my Sony Ericsson W880 for calling / SMS / camera / music / internet etc.

    Even though the iPhone will certainly look worse from the technical specs point, I would still wait and see how the total iPhone user experience will be in the end. Because in daily use that matters, not the specs, I dare to claim.

  32. @15. Unless you are someone that falls for the more pixels = better pictures hype, it doesn’t matter that the N95 has a 5MB camera and the iPhone has a 2MB camera. Unless one plans to embarrass themselves by making HUGE prints of pictures they take on cell phone camera. Even then the naked eye likely won’t see a difference unless they look real close.

  33. @15. Unless you are someone that falls for the more pixels = better pictures hype, it doesn’t matter that the N95 has a 5MB camera and the iPhone has a 2MB camera. Unless one plans to embarrass themselves by making HUGE prints of pictures they take on cell phone camera. Even then the naked eye likely won’t see a difference unless they look real close.

  34. @mike

    Thank you! I’m getting sick of all these people who predict iPhone will be an utter failure because it lacks some pet feature like FM radio support. Even the 3G band camp is getting tiring because 90% of the people I know don’t even use 2G.

    Frankly, when it takes 25 clicks or so on a Treo just to duplicate what the “Calamari” commercial does in just 8, what’s the point of having 3G anyway? Every time I want to do something, the utter suckiness of non-iPhone interfaces makes me spend 3X longer just performing ordinary tasks. Funny how no one counts “interface suckiness” and lag as lost time.

    Some of you are living in a buble of your own making. The rest of us will be enjoying our iPhones, thank you.

  35. @mike

    Thank you! I’m getting sick of all these people who predict iPhone will be an utter failure because it lacks some pet feature like FM radio support. Even the 3G band camp is getting tiring because 90% of the people I know don’t even use 2G.

    Frankly, when it takes 25 clicks or so on a Treo just to duplicate what the “Calamari” commercial does in just 8, what’s the point of having 3G anyway? Every time I want to do something, the utter suckiness of non-iPhone interfaces makes me spend 3X longer just performing ordinary tasks. Funny how no one counts “interface suckiness” and lag as lost time.

    Some of you are living in a buble of your own making. The rest of us will be enjoying our iPhones, thank you.

  36. Mr. LayZ

    I dont think you got the point. The point here is that Apple’s chart omits these details.

    Whether one will find 5MP useful or not is very subjective and is another question. I know many ppl who would love a 5MP.

  37. Mr. LayZ

    I dont think you got the point. The point here is that Apple’s chart omits these details.

    Whether one will find 5MP useful or not is very subjective and is another question. I know many ppl who would love a 5MP.

  38. Robert @5, I live in Europe, and I’ve only ever seen people look at their phones when txting. Are you sure they were sending SMS?

  39. Robert @5, I live in Europe, and I’ve only ever seen people look at their phones when txting. Are you sure they were sending SMS?

  40. Paul, “What is the point of 3G”?? OMG do you want to go back to using a 2400baud modem at home? no? When I upload a 5MP picture from my N95 up to flickr it takes seconds with 3G (HSDPA). If I try that using 2G it takes likes 10-15 minutes?

    The iPhone is a non-starter for me. An example web-page for me would be the http://www.bbc.co.uk which comes in at around 300k. On 3G its a pleasure to browse, on 2G? forget it! IPhone is for hotspot use only and thats just rubbish. I love my Macbook but I would not give up my N95 in favour of the iPhone until they sort out 3G support.

  41. Paul, “What is the point of 3G”?? OMG do you want to go back to using a 2400baud modem at home? no? When I upload a 5MP picture from my N95 up to flickr it takes seconds with 3G (HSDPA). If I try that using 2G it takes likes 10-15 minutes?

    The iPhone is a non-starter for me. An example web-page for me would be the http://www.bbc.co.uk which comes in at around 300k. On 3G its a pleasure to browse, on 2G? forget it! IPhone is for hotspot use only and thats just rubbish. I love my Macbook but I would not give up my N95 in favour of the iPhone until they sort out 3G support.

  42. @Ross,nr. 28: I live in Europe too; and I can textmessage without looking at the screen. If you know your phone (in my case the n95 :-) well enough, it´s not a problem.

  43. @Ross,nr. 28: I live in Europe too; and I can textmessage without looking at the screen. If you know your phone (in my case the n95 :-) well enough, it´s not a problem.

  44. Shhh! Mr Scoble you’re not meant to point that out, they might have got away wih it. There’s probably a lot of kids who didn’t realise that there were Mp3 players before the iPod as well.

  45. Shhh! Mr Scoble you’re not meant to point that out, they might have got away wih it. There’s probably a lot of kids who didn’t realise that there were Mp3 players before the iPod as well.

  46. Ross: #33: yes, my niece texts while keeping the phone in her pocket. It’s an amazing skill but she’s not the only one I’ve met who does that. Joi Ito tells me that’s quite common in Japan too.

    When I had a Blackberry I used to type emails during meetings under the table.

  47. Ross: #33: yes, my niece texts while keeping the phone in her pocket. It’s an amazing skill but she’s not the only one I’ve met who does that. Joi Ito tells me that’s quite common in Japan too.

    When I had a Blackberry I used to type emails during meetings under the table.

  48. LayZ: look at my pictures on Flickr. Click on “all sizes” and look at the big images. They rock compared to any other cell phone I’ve seen.

    I’m getting an iPhone too. I’ll definitely put up some comparison photos.

    As to the N95’s faults. Yeah, the camera is slow. But I get pictures I never would have taken because I don’t carry my digital camera everywhere and anyway my digital camera doesn’t automatically send photos to Flickr for you to see. Translation: I’ll put up with the slow camera.

    As for the GPS speed: agreed. But at least it has it so if I’m lost I can at least see where I am.

    Regarding the UI: it’s as good a UI as I’ve had on a phone so far. The iPhone pushes things much further, though.

  49. LayZ: look at my pictures on Flickr. Click on “all sizes” and look at the big images. They rock compared to any other cell phone I’ve seen.

    I’m getting an iPhone too. I’ll definitely put up some comparison photos.

    As to the N95’s faults. Yeah, the camera is slow. But I get pictures I never would have taken because I don’t carry my digital camera everywhere and anyway my digital camera doesn’t automatically send photos to Flickr for you to see. Translation: I’ll put up with the slow camera.

    As for the GPS speed: agreed. But at least it has it so if I’m lost I can at least see where I am.

    Regarding the UI: it’s as good a UI as I’ve had on a phone so far. The iPhone pushes things much further, though.

  50. But you looked at the Blackberry while you were doing it.
    Everybody is familiar with the under the table stare. Be honest, put the Blackberry on the table and just ignore the speakers at your meetings.

  51. But you looked at the Blackberry while you were doing it.
    Everybody is familiar with the under the table stare. Be honest, put the Blackberry on the table and just ignore the speakers at your meetings.

  52. They made a mistake and fixed it. Big deal. As for the list of items you love on your free Nokia N95, good for you. I must admit #5 made me gag. I defy you or anyone else to touch-type messages of reasonable length on a smartphone’s QWERTY keyboard with your thumbs. Ain’t happening. You might pound out a word or two without looking at the keyboard, but that’s it. The fact is, you’re looking. The iPhone will be no better, but this argument is just silly.

  53. They made a mistake and fixed it. Big deal. As for the list of items you love on your free Nokia N95, good for you. I must admit #5 made me gag. I defy you or anyone else to touch-type messages of reasonable length on a smartphone’s QWERTY keyboard with your thumbs. Ain’t happening. You might pound out a word or two without looking at the keyboard, but that’s it. The fact is, you’re looking. The iPhone will be no better, but this argument is just silly.

  54. Tom: it’s obvious you’ve never met a teenager who lives by texting. Maryam’s niece who lives in Wales can pound out text after text without looking.

  55. Tom: it’s obvious you’ve never met a teenager who lives by texting. Maryam’s niece who lives in Wales can pound out text after text without looking.

  56. Jake: I got to the point where I could touch type on the Blackberry.

    I don’t look at the keyboard when typing. I can hold a conversation with you and take perfect notes and I can type in a totally black room with almost 100% accuracy.

  57. Jake: I got to the point where I could touch type on the Blackberry.

    I don’t look at the keyboard when typing. I can hold a conversation with you and take perfect notes and I can type in a totally black room with almost 100% accuracy.

  58. @Nick Halstead

    Hey Nick, thanks for taking my quote out of context. I hope I don’t have to explain to you that I was pointing out the idiocy of designing a product with a time-wasting interface and attaching a fast 3G connection to it. Please get a clue.

    Since you obviously missed my point, the reason why the iPhone will succeed is for the same reason the iPod succeeded. It’s not the features, stupid, it’s how they’re implemented. As other people have already noted above, the N95 looks great on paper, but it actually is ho-hum in actual use.

    The iPhone, on the other hand, may look “meh” on paper, but it will be kick-ass in implementation. Even without 3G and only EDGE. Even without an FM radio, only iTunes syncing. Even without 3rd party standalone apps (for now).

    No wonder Apple keeps kicking sand into the faces of so-called competitors without getting any itself. It’s not so hard when all your competitors can do is pile onto a spec list instead of making the product “just work” in a way that delights ordinary people.

  59. @Nick Halstead

    Hey Nick, thanks for taking my quote out of context. I hope I don’t have to explain to you that I was pointing out the idiocy of designing a product with a time-wasting interface and attaching a fast 3G connection to it. Please get a clue.

    Since you obviously missed my point, the reason why the iPhone will succeed is for the same reason the iPod succeeded. It’s not the features, stupid, it’s how they’re implemented. As other people have already noted above, the N95 looks great on paper, but it actually is ho-hum in actual use.

    The iPhone, on the other hand, may look “meh” on paper, but it will be kick-ass in implementation. Even without 3G and only EDGE. Even without an FM radio, only iTunes syncing. Even without 3rd party standalone apps (for now).

    No wonder Apple keeps kicking sand into the faces of so-called competitors without getting any itself. It’s not so hard when all your competitors can do is pile onto a spec list instead of making the product “just work” in a way that delights ordinary people.

  60. @39 “LayZ: look at my pictures on Flickr. Click on “all sizes” and look at the big images. They rock compared to any other cell phone I’ve seen.”

    Well, sez you. Then again there are people that think Saturn makes a great car, so whaddya gonna do?

    Even if you do think the pictures you took on your N95 “rock”, it’s not because of the pixel size the camera supports. It’s likely either the lens quality, the sensor quality, or…and it pains me to say this….the photographer. But is NOT pixel quanity support.

  61. @39 “LayZ: look at my pictures on Flickr. Click on “all sizes” and look at the big images. They rock compared to any other cell phone I’ve seen.”

    Well, sez you. Then again there are people that think Saturn makes a great car, so whaddya gonna do?

    Even if you do think the pictures you took on your N95 “rock”, it’s not because of the pixel size the camera supports. It’s likely either the lens quality, the sensor quality, or…and it pains me to say this….the photographer. But is NOT pixel quanity support.

  62. @32 “Mr. LayZ

    I dont think you got the point. The point here is that Apple’s chart omits these details. ”

    But that only reinforces my point. For either device, it doesn’t matter if one supports 5MB and the other doesn’t. Unless, like I said, the user plans to print really huge prints, or do some intense post processing of their pictutres. Which, if they do, I would suggest they buy a tool that was designed from the ground up to take digital pictures.

    “Whether one will find 5MP useful or not is very subjective and is another question. I know many ppl who would love a 5MP.”

    And those people are exactly the type of consumers the P&S camera manufacturers love, because they obviously fall for the myth that more pixels = better pictures.

  63. @32 “Mr. LayZ

    I dont think you got the point. The point here is that Apple’s chart omits these details. ”

    But that only reinforces my point. For either device, it doesn’t matter if one supports 5MB and the other doesn’t. Unless, like I said, the user plans to print really huge prints, or do some intense post processing of their pictutres. Which, if they do, I would suggest they buy a tool that was designed from the ground up to take digital pictures.

    “Whether one will find 5MP useful or not is very subjective and is another question. I know many ppl who would love a 5MP.”

    And those people are exactly the type of consumers the P&S camera manufacturers love, because they obviously fall for the myth that more pixels = better pictures.

  64. LayZ: whatever. I have used lots of digital cameras. And this one is FAR better quality than any other cell phone I’ve used.

    You can make all the arguments you want for what makes it better than the others. Sure, it’s the lens too. It has a Carl Zeiss lens. But the others don’t have the lens, don’t have the autofocus, don’t have the LED flash, don’t have the other things this one has.

    You’re just being pedantic.

    And, sorry, if all things are equal having more megapixels DOES matter.

  65. LayZ: whatever. I have used lots of digital cameras. And this one is FAR better quality than any other cell phone I’ve used.

    You can make all the arguments you want for what makes it better than the others. Sure, it’s the lens too. It has a Carl Zeiss lens. But the others don’t have the lens, don’t have the autofocus, don’t have the LED flash, don’t have the other things this one has.

    You’re just being pedantic.

    And, sorry, if all things are equal having more megapixels DOES matter.

  66. What’s all this about typing text messages without looking – how about just entering phone numbers while reading them off a piece of paper, or the screen?

  67. What’s all this about typing text messages without looking – how about just entering phone numbers while reading them off a piece of paper, or the screen?

  68. Robert

    If you don’t remember, I was all animated during the levee breach 2 years ago. I’m now working for the New Orleans Housing Resource Center in the Hollygrove neighborhood of New Orleans.

    I’m one of the few people on the ground in New Orleans, who is serious about social media in the recovery. The Nokia M95 caught my attention, because for our work organizing this devastated neighborhood, it would be valuable to have a geocoded photo record.

    I’d be interested in your thoughts on this matter.

  69. Robert

    If you don’t remember, I was all animated during the levee breach 2 years ago. I’m now working for the New Orleans Housing Resource Center in the Hollygrove neighborhood of New Orleans.

    I’m one of the few people on the ground in New Orleans, who is serious about social media in the recovery. The Nokia M95 caught my attention, because for our work organizing this devastated neighborhood, it would be valuable to have a geocoded photo record.

    I’d be interested in your thoughts on this matter.

  70. I was in Bangkok last week and wanted to bring home an unlocked Nokia 95. However, everyone I asked about it wanted $800 USD and would not negotiate, which is very rare for Thailand, so I passed it up. Was I wrong? If I got an iPhone I’d have to bail on my T-Mobile contract, so maybe I don’t get to early adopt this one. I’m not dissatisfied with my Blackberry Pearl, but I hate to be left out of something new :-) Childish.

  71. I was in Bangkok last week and wanted to bring home an unlocked Nokia 95. However, everyone I asked about it wanted $800 USD and would not negotiate, which is very rare for Thailand, so I passed it up. Was I wrong? If I got an iPhone I’d have to bail on my T-Mobile contract, so maybe I don’t get to early adopt this one. I’m not dissatisfied with my Blackberry Pearl, but I hate to be left out of something new :-) Childish.

  72. 3G and HSDPA are mandatory features in Europe for
    a smart phone. I can not imagine Apple selling the Iphone in Europe without it.
    HSDPA gives you more than 1mb on your cell and works around big cities like Paris, 3G let you get your emails quickly or skype while travelling in high speed train … combined with bluetooth it provides an excellent modem for your laptop while staying in your pocket.

  73. 3G and HSDPA are mandatory features in Europe for
    a smart phone. I can not imagine Apple selling the Iphone in Europe without it.
    HSDPA gives you more than 1mb on your cell and works around big cities like Paris, 3G let you get your emails quickly or skype while travelling in high speed train … combined with bluetooth it provides an excellent modem for your laptop while staying in your pocket.

  74. How does one run .NET apps on a Symbian OS? I am guessing, well more than guessing, you can’t unless of course you meant web apps.. both do hat so Robert you better scrub off your number 7 thing and take your list down to 8, or maybe 7 if you believe your own posts that there is a conspiracy with adobe employee’s “not talking” about a Flash plugin for the iPhone.

  75. How does one run .NET apps on a Symbian OS? I am guessing, well more than guessing, you can’t unless of course you meant web apps.. both do hat so Robert you better scrub off your number 7 thing and take your list down to 8, or maybe 7 if you believe your own posts that there is a conspiracy with adobe employee’s “not talking” about a Flash plugin for the iPhone.

  76. I think they are sacrificing flexibility for elegance, design, and usability. This is MAC standard mantra. “Do it our way or use something else.”

    IPhones are for the I have way too much dispobable income crowd. I doubt business will ever bite on in a big way.

  77. I think they are sacrificing flexibility for elegance, design, and usability. This is MAC standard mantra. “Do it our way or use something else.”

    IPhones are for the I have way too much dispobable income crowd. I doubt business will ever bite on in a big way.

  78. Tim Snyder: “I dont think you got the point. The point here is that Apple’s chart omits these details.”

    No, I’d say you don’t get the point. I’ve never seen a single comparison chart exhaustively detail every feature. This is not tech specs, this is a comparison of size, core features, and the announced battery times. If we used Scoble’s “features”, 3 to 5 of his “features” would be missing from most of the phones. If we detailed all features, would we also have to detail: accelerometers, proximity sensors, orientation sensors, multitouch screen, 4-8GB of onboard memory, visual voice mail, threaded messaging, integration with Mac OS and applications, iTunes/iPod functionality, the level of sophistication/number of features in photo viewing, etc, etc, etc…? Apparently, Brent felt he could leave a lot of those features out. I guess “better” and “left out” are subjective when you want to criticize Apple.

  79. Tim Snyder: “I dont think you got the point. The point here is that Apple’s chart omits these details.”

    No, I’d say you don’t get the point. I’ve never seen a single comparison chart exhaustively detail every feature. This is not tech specs, this is a comparison of size, core features, and the announced battery times. If we used Scoble’s “features”, 3 to 5 of his “features” would be missing from most of the phones. If we detailed all features, would we also have to detail: accelerometers, proximity sensors, orientation sensors, multitouch screen, 4-8GB of onboard memory, visual voice mail, threaded messaging, integration with Mac OS and applications, iTunes/iPod functionality, the level of sophistication/number of features in photo viewing, etc, etc, etc…? Apparently, Brent felt he could leave a lot of those features out. I guess “better” and “left out” are subjective when you want to criticize Apple.

  80. Hum… Do you really think a company will fairly compare other manufacturers’products with its owns? As long as they put true datas.
    But I am surprised to not see any HTC Trinity or Hermes (which can be compared but for which hdd is lacking), or even the HTC Touch/Elf.

  81. Hum… Do you really think a company will fairly compare other manufacturers’products with its owns? As long as they put true datas.
    But I am surprised to not see any HTC Trinity or Hermes (which can be compared but for which hdd is lacking), or even the HTC Touch/Elf.

  82. @47 “And, sorry, if all things are equal having more megapixels DOES matter.”

    Matters how? Quality of picture? If you really believe that, I feel sorry for any customer you sold a camera to when you worked in a camera store. All things being equal it absolutely does NOT matter. You can only cram so many pixels into a sensor that will fit in a camera phone. Now, a 5MB DSLR will produce better quality photos than a 5MB camera phone. Care to guess why? The difference between 2MB and 5MB for the phone form factor does NOT matter. You will absolutely NOT see a difference in the quality of the picture taken and displayed on an N95 and one taken and displayed on an iPhone.

    Now, if we are talking about cropping and editing, then yes it does have some minor advantages to go with more pixels. But I rather doubt the majority of users of these devices will be doing much of that.

    You’re falling into that typical geek myth that between two items the item that has the bigger number must be better. Next you are going to tell me you see the difference between 1080i and 1080p on a 32″ screen.

  83. @47 “And, sorry, if all things are equal having more megapixels DOES matter.”

    Matters how? Quality of picture? If you really believe that, I feel sorry for any customer you sold a camera to when you worked in a camera store. All things being equal it absolutely does NOT matter. You can only cram so many pixels into a sensor that will fit in a camera phone. Now, a 5MB DSLR will produce better quality photos than a 5MB camera phone. Care to guess why? The difference between 2MB and 5MB for the phone form factor does NOT matter. You will absolutely NOT see a difference in the quality of the picture taken and displayed on an N95 and one taken and displayed on an iPhone.

    Now, if we are talking about cropping and editing, then yes it does have some minor advantages to go with more pixels. But I rather doubt the majority of users of these devices will be doing much of that.

    You’re falling into that typical geek myth that between two items the item that has the bigger number must be better. Next you are going to tell me you see the difference between 1080i and 1080p on a 32″ screen.

  84. @LayZ

    The difference between 2MP and 5MP is significant.

    Example 1:
    With 2MP you can take pictures of A4-sized documents and if the font is big enough, the text is (barely) readable on your screen. But with 5MP you can shoot larger documents with smaller font or even make decent prints.

    Example 2:
    My screen’s resolution is now 1600×1200, 2MP pictures fits there nicely 1:1 but how about in the future?

  85. @LayZ

    The difference between 2MP and 5MP is significant.

    Example 1:
    With 2MP you can take pictures of A4-sized documents and if the font is big enough, the text is (barely) readable on your screen. But with 5MP you can shoot larger documents with smaller font or even make decent prints.

    Example 2:
    My screen’s resolution is now 1600×1200, 2MP pictures fits there nicely 1:1 but how about in the future?

  86. This is very useful, but which one wins out? I’m an new apple owner and by virtue of that a convert. Everyone keeps telling me that the first generation iphone is not going to be what everyone would like it to be and I’m not feeling the Nokia N95. Can someone put me straight on this.

  87. This is very useful, but which one wins out? I’m an new apple owner and by virtue of that a convert. Everyone keeps telling me that the first generation iphone is not going to be what everyone would like it to be and I’m not feeling the Nokia N95. Can someone put me straight on this.

  88. I’d really like some direction on how to cut through the FUD. The nonprofit that I work for wants to create a photo map of a destroyed New Orleans neighborhood to aid in recovery. The Nokia N95 looks like the right tool, but I’ve been told…

    * GPS is very slow, takes a minute to locate.
    * 5mp is no big deal, phone cannot use it.
    * Shutter is very slow.

    What’s the truth? What’s the FUD? Should I buy a camera and GPS system and forget about having the Internet?

  89. I’d really like some direction on how to cut through the FUD. The nonprofit that I work for wants to create a photo map of a destroyed New Orleans neighborhood to aid in recovery. The Nokia N95 looks like the right tool, but I’ve been told…

    * GPS is very slow, takes a minute to locate.
    * 5mp is no big deal, phone cannot use it.
    * Shutter is very slow.

    What’s the truth? What’s the FUD? Should I buy a camera and GPS system and forget about having the Internet?

  90. Alan, you can still use a HTC Trinity or O2 something or Telekom XDA … they are all the same (Pocket PC phone with a GPS chip), and nearly all decent mobile telephony standards (well I am using one currently to type the message). The device has 2 cameras (1 for video call (300×200 or so)) and the one in the back is a 2MP.

    To answer your question concerning the GPS, I tried severals based on Windows CE, they all need couple of seconds/minutes to locate where you are when you turn them on. But once you are located, and the device remains on, it will be instantaneous, and your position will be correct (with margins due to civilian GPS, since military ones are more accurate).

  91. Alan, you can still use a HTC Trinity or O2 something or Telekom XDA … they are all the same (Pocket PC phone with a GPS chip), and nearly all decent mobile telephony standards (well I am using one currently to type the message). The device has 2 cameras (1 for video call (300×200 or so)) and the one in the back is a 2MP.

    To answer your question concerning the GPS, I tried severals based on Windows CE, they all need couple of seconds/minutes to locate where you are when you turn them on. But once you are located, and the device remains on, it will be instantaneous, and your position will be correct (with margins due to civilian GPS, since military ones are more accurate).

  92. Alan, not sure what you mean by the phone cannot use the 5MP camera. The camera works very well for small point & shoot – check out all the photos on Flickr taken with N95s. The shutter is actually not slow at all: the original firmware had a bug (although they didn’t call it that) that meant the shutter sound effect didn’t get played until after the image was stored on the memory card, making it seem slow. The upgraded firmware fixes this.

    The GPS is slow to acquire at first, but once it is locked it updates continually and works as well as any GPS. There is also a rumour that the next release will contain an upgrade to include AGPS which will speed up the initial lock.

    If you want to automatically geotag your photos (which I’m guessing you do giving the application), then you’ll need to use ShoZu to upload them. You can upload over Wi-Fi or the cellular data network. If you plan to use hotspots, you might want to try Devicescape too which makes it simpler to get signed on at public hotspots).

    HTH,
    John…

  93. Alan, not sure what you mean by the phone cannot use the 5MP camera. The camera works very well for small point & shoot – check out all the photos on Flickr taken with N95s. The shutter is actually not slow at all: the original firmware had a bug (although they didn’t call it that) that meant the shutter sound effect didn’t get played until after the image was stored on the memory card, making it seem slow. The upgraded firmware fixes this.

    The GPS is slow to acquire at first, but once it is locked it updates continually and works as well as any GPS. There is also a rumour that the next release will contain an upgrade to include AGPS which will speed up the initial lock.

    If you want to automatically geotag your photos (which I’m guessing you do giving the application), then you’ll need to use ShoZu to upload them. You can upload over Wi-Fi or the cellular data network. If you plan to use hotspots, you might want to try Devicescape too which makes it simpler to get signed on at public hotspots).

    HTH,
    John…

  94. Marketing strategy. yes. they’re good at it.

    It’s just hot. for the moment – the design is superb, minimalistic, yet clean looking.

    Also the other key features:
    The water-drip effect.
    The touch screen.
    the touch screen again. (for resizing pics)

    these are not common.

  95. Marketing strategy. yes. they’re good at it.

    It’s just hot. for the moment – the design is superb, minimalistic, yet clean looking.

    Also the other key features:
    The water-drip effect.
    The touch screen.
    the touch screen again. (for resizing pics)

    these are not common.

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