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  1. Seriously are you desperate to get people on your show or something. First you wanted Zune folks to refute your biased charges against them. Now you want Facebook people to do something similar. Seriously what help does it do to them if they come on their show. If traffic is high its high, if its low its low. Coming on your show will have zero effect on it. Also very very few people would even have that much contacts on their account.

  2. Seriously are you desperate to get people on your show or something. First you wanted Zune folks to refute your biased charges against them. Now you want Facebook people to do something similar. Seriously what help does it do to them if they come on their show. If traffic is high its high, if its low its low. Coming on your show will have zero effect on it. Also very very few people would even have that much contacts on their account.

  3. Eshwar: I have a new person or company on my show every day. In the past year I’ve had about 300 on. I want people who are making news on my show. Facebook is definitely making news and I’d expect they’d want to refute these claims, if they are incorrect. If their traffic is really dropping then that’ll hit their valuations and the amount that they’ll be able to get from investors. Doing that refutation on a show that has a lot of viewers is what I’d do, if I worked in PR there.

  4. Eshwar: I have a new person or company on my show every day. In the past year I’ve had about 300 on. I want people who are making news on my show. Facebook is definitely making news and I’d expect they’d want to refute these claims, if they are incorrect. If their traffic is really dropping then that’ll hit their valuations and the amount that they’ll be able to get from investors. Doing that refutation on a show that has a lot of viewers is what I’d do, if I worked in PR there.

  5. Grow up. “Let me add more friends or I’ll publicly announce I’ve stopped using you!”

    I’m glad Facebook treat you just the same as everybody else. You don’t have 5000 friends, and neither does anyone else on the planet.

  6. Grow up. “Let me add more friends or I’ll publicly announce I’ve stopped using you!”

    I’m glad Facebook treat you just the same as everybody else. You don’t have 5000 friends, and neither does anyone else on the planet.

  7. Well, perhaps they cannot refute it because it simply is true.

    Sometimes, the only reason something gets popular is because it is trendy, and that trend is destroyed if it becomes the place where suddenly everyone is at.

    Do you think that having a dial-tone in your house is cool? Of course not, but once upon a time, not everyone had a telephone.

    Hell, the iPhone is just a repeat of that same behavior. I guess human behavior hasn’t really changed that much in the last 100 years.

  8. Well, perhaps they cannot refute it because it simply is true.

    Sometimes, the only reason something gets popular is because it is trendy, and that trend is destroyed if it becomes the place where suddenly everyone is at.

    Do you think that having a dial-tone in your house is cool? Of course not, but once upon a time, not everyone had a telephone.

    Hell, the iPhone is just a repeat of that same behavior. I guess human behavior hasn’t really changed that much in the last 100 years.

  9. Tim: Facebook doesn’t claim to be a “friends network.” They claim to be a “social utility.” I do have 5552 people in my social network. Just because you don’t doesn’t mean I don’t.

    I’ve also collected more than 4,000 business cards in the past seven years. Are you saying these people don’t deserve to be in my rolodex?

  10. Tim: Facebook doesn’t claim to be a “friends network.” They claim to be a “social utility.” I do have 5552 people in my social network. Just because you don’t doesn’t mean I don’t.

    I’ve also collected more than 4,000 business cards in the past seven years. Are you saying these people don’t deserve to be in my rolodex?

  11. “I’ve been spending a lot more time with my new son”
    Real life interceeds…Now that is being social…and isn’t it much better than all you could do was write on his wall or Tweet him?
    :-)

  12. “I’ve been spending a lot more time with my new son”
    Real life interceeds…Now that is being social…and isn’t it much better than all you could do was write on his wall or Tweet him?
    :-)

  13. @6 “Sometimes, the only reason something gets popular is because it is trendy, and that trend is destroyed if it becomes the place where suddenly everyone is at.”

    Or to quote Yogi Berra: “Nobody goes there any more, it’s too crowded!”

  14. @6 “Sometimes, the only reason something gets popular is because it is trendy, and that trend is destroyed if it becomes the place where suddenly everyone is at.”

    Or to quote Yogi Berra: “Nobody goes there any more, it’s too crowded!”

  15. But Robert: What happens when your son grows up… and refuses to let you be his facebook friend?

    When I finally joined Facebook, I signed up as part of the regional group… and had access to the profile of my college freshman daughter. It was interesting… and at least a little bit icky. I don’t really want to be reading her diary, and that’s sort of what reading her Facebook page was about.

    So will Facebook start sorting out friends? Those we tell everything to, those we tell impersonal achievements to, those we share disgraceful jokes with?

  16. But Robert: What happens when your son grows up… and refuses to let you be his facebook friend?

    When I finally joined Facebook, I signed up as part of the regional group… and had access to the profile of my college freshman daughter. It was interesting… and at least a little bit icky. I don’t really want to be reading her diary, and that’s sort of what reading her Facebook page was about.

    So will Facebook start sorting out friends? Those we tell everything to, those we tell impersonal achievements to, those we share disgraceful jokes with?

  17. Robert, why don’t you tell that Facebook is irresponsible regarding their platform, they have lots of breaking changes, arrogant and don’t care about apps using their platform.

    They don’t admit bugs and their tech quality is low.

  18. Robert, why don’t you tell that Facebook is irresponsible regarding their platform, they have lots of breaking changes, arrogant and don’t care about apps using their platform.

    They don’t admit bugs and their tech quality is low.

  19. Robert, yes, it’s a social utility. Not a rolodex. It’s not supposed to be a repository of everyone you’ve ever met, every “fan” who wants to be your “friend”. It’s not a substitute for a collection of business cards. It’s for people you actually socialize with, be it online or off.

    It’s for friends to keep in contact with each other and keep up-to-date with what they’re doing.

  20. Robert, yes, it’s a social utility. Not a rolodex. It’s not supposed to be a repository of everyone you’ve ever met, every “fan” who wants to be your “friend”. It’s not a substitute for a collection of business cards. It’s for people you actually socialize with, be it online or off.

    It’s for friends to keep in contact with each other and keep up-to-date with what they’re doing.

  21. If you haven’t looked at Om Malik’s post on the subject, he indicated it’s because the ratings panel method is largely home based, and the kids all went back to their colleges.

    Get the deeper story, eh?

  22. If you haven’t looked at Om Malik’s post on the subject, he indicated it’s because the ratings panel method is largely home based, and the kids all went back to their colleges.

    Get the deeper story, eh?

  23. Tim: you’re wrong. But, that’s OK.

    I talk with thousands of people. For me to be a real utility it must allow me to talk with who I want. I also use it like a phone book, looking up people and talking with them via email, phone, or Facebook’s messaging system. That’s what a utility is.

  24. Tim: you’re wrong. But, that’s OK.

    I talk with thousands of people. For me to be a real utility it must allow me to talk with who I want. I also use it like a phone book, looking up people and talking with them via email, phone, or Facebook’s messaging system. That’s what a utility is.

  25. I know you talk with thousands of people. That’s what you do.

    Your last statement made no sense. “That’s what a utility is?” Something that lets you use it as a phone book, email, phone? I don’t understand.

    It sounds like you’re trying to use Facebook in a way in which it wasn’t really meant to be used, and then complaining that it isn’t flexible enough. That’s an unreasonable thing to do. Especially when your method of coping with that is complaining to a large audience and making vague threats to stop using it.

  26. I know you talk with thousands of people. That’s what you do.

    Your last statement made no sense. “That’s what a utility is?” Something that lets you use it as a phone book, email, phone? I don’t understand.

    It sounds like you’re trying to use Facebook in a way in which it wasn’t really meant to be used, and then complaining that it isn’t flexible enough. That’s an unreasonable thing to do. Especially when your method of coping with that is complaining to a large audience and making vague threats to stop using it.

  27. Tim: are you a Facebook engineer? I know several. They want it to be used like a Rolodex. I’ve interviewed Facebook’s founders and engineers. You haven’t. So how the hell do you know how they meant it to be used?

    The reason there is a 5,000 limit is because Facebook has a scaling problem. Their systems get slower and slower because of all the database joins that it needs to do.

  28. Tim: are you a Facebook engineer? I know several. They want it to be used like a Rolodex. I’ve interviewed Facebook’s founders and engineers. You haven’t. So how the hell do you know how they meant it to be used?

    The reason there is a 5,000 limit is because Facebook has a scaling problem. Their systems get slower and slower because of all the database joins that it needs to do.

  29. There is a lot of competition in the social network space. Especially in the recent years, which may have limited the growth of Facebook.

    This also only shows unique visitors, which isn’t clearly defined in the article (despite that it may be common knowledge, they could be using it differently). In consideration, Facebook may have become too complex for new members to join, who would rather go back to simple ol’ Myspace.

    The article states that this drop was before the “back to school” season. There was as similar drop back in Jan-Feb. Also before the season. Hmmm, is it possible that Facebook traffic has cycles? In addition to that argument Myspace is a different company with a different brand in the same space, which may not have cycles at all.

  30. There is a lot of competition in the social network space. Especially in the recent years, which may have limited the growth of Facebook.

    This also only shows unique visitors, which isn’t clearly defined in the article (despite that it may be common knowledge, they could be using it differently). In consideration, Facebook may have become too complex for new members to join, who would rather go back to simple ol’ Myspace.

    The article states that this drop was before the “back to school” season. There was as similar drop back in Jan-Feb. Also before the season. Hmmm, is it possible that Facebook traffic has cycles? In addition to that argument Myspace is a different company with a different brand in the same space, which may not have cycles at all.