Google's Jaiku vs. Twitter?

We’re discussing Jaiku vs. Twitter. Where else? On FriendFeed. Interesting discussion.

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  1. The truth is it was ahead of its time. Because FriendFeed is basically Jaiku reincarnated 2 years later.

    So much for you being an early adopter, lol

  2. The truth is it was ahead of its time. Because FriendFeed is basically Jaiku reincarnated 2 years later.

    So much for you being an early adopter, lol

  3. But here’s the problem, Robert…I’m leaving a comment here, not on FriendFeed. Let’s say someone responds to my comment here, now there’s discussion in both places. Let’s say someone shares this post via Google Reader, and now someone else leaves a comment on that. More fragmentation.

    FriendFeed comments are great for quick soundbites as you skim a long list of feeds and links looking at what’s interesting in the tech echo chamber. But “discussion” and “conversation”? It just doesn’t work and it’s not scaling well.

    Furthermore, you’re employed as a content provider. The people who are paying your salary are, I presume, looking for measurables, no? How do you do that with FriendFeed? If all the energy is on FriendFeed…in a response to a tweet, no less…how does that deliver value to the Robert Scoble brand?

    Personally, I really enjoy my participation on FriendFeed when I have the time. But I don’t see it making it for long haul until there’s more attention to comment metrics and tracking/filtering. A page listing who finds me “interesting” doesn’t cut it.

  4. But here’s the problem, Robert…I’m leaving a comment here, not on FriendFeed. Let’s say someone responds to my comment here, now there’s discussion in both places. Let’s say someone shares this post via Google Reader, and now someone else leaves a comment on that. More fragmentation.

    FriendFeed comments are great for quick soundbites as you skim a long list of feeds and links looking at what’s interesting in the tech echo chamber. But “discussion” and “conversation”? It just doesn’t work and it’s not scaling well.

    Furthermore, you’re employed as a content provider. The people who are paying your salary are, I presume, looking for measurables, no? How do you do that with FriendFeed? If all the energy is on FriendFeed…in a response to a tweet, no less…how does that deliver value to the Robert Scoble brand?

    Personally, I really enjoy my participation on FriendFeed when I have the time. But I don’t see it making it for long haul until there’s more attention to comment metrics and tracking/filtering. A page listing who finds me “interesting” doesn’t cut it.

  5. Come on Robert, i prefer that discussions develop here in a public way that lurker can see or anonymous can comment.
    So, and Pownce? Do u know Hictu? It s an Italian project that i signal in this post. Jaiku is more pretty and useful than Twitter but i don’t like UI (it’s not bad but i use Twitter since many times), have more features but i think that the must for microblogging is a simply interface and less feature. Are u on Jaiku? My account is: http://darios.jaiku.com/

    I’am using Jaiku in order to scroll past page of my followers Twitter status. This is a good idea and an intelligent use of a web service. What do u think?

  6. Come on Robert, i prefer that discussions develop here in a public way that lurker can see or anonymous can comment.
    So, and Pownce? Do u know Hictu? It s an Italian project that i signal in this post. Jaiku is more pretty and useful than Twitter but i don’t like UI (it’s not bad but i use Twitter since many times), have more features but i think that the must for microblogging is a simply interface and less feature. Are u on Jaiku? My account is: http://darios.jaiku.com/

    I’am using Jaiku in order to scroll past page of my followers Twitter status. This is a good idea and an intelligent use of a web service. What do u think?

  7. I love Jaiku and I hope Google is preparing some interesting stuff when they open it to the public.

    This is the right time.

    It will be huuuuuuge!

  8. I love Jaiku and I hope Google is preparing some interesting stuff when they open it to the public.

    This is the right time.

    It will be huuuuuuge!

  9. Also, al ot of us in corporate environments cannot access FriendFeed. Blocked by corp. IS group so we can’t participate. Guess I’ll stick with Twitter.

  10. Also, al ot of us in corporate environments cannot access FriendFeed. Blocked by corp. IS group so we can’t participate. Guess I’ll stick with Twitter.

  11. Hey Robert! Really enjoyed the conversation on Friendfeed about Jaiku (reminiscent of many a threaded conversation I had on Jaiku!!)

    Proof, if ever it was needed that with rooms now, Friendfeed is a more than worthy replacement for Twitter/Jaiku!

    Looking forward to seeing Jaiku on Android now!

  12. Hey Robert! Really enjoyed the conversation on Friendfeed about Jaiku (reminiscent of many a threaded conversation I had on Jaiku!!)

    Proof, if ever it was needed that with rooms now, Friendfeed is a more than worthy replacement for Twitter/Jaiku!

    Looking forward to seeing Jaiku on Android now!

  13. It’s really difficult forcing Twitter into a hole cut by Jaiku. The two services have many different wrinkles. For starters, Jaiku actually works in your pocket if you run it on a Series 60 third edition Nokia phone. Twitter doesn’t even have a back button that works but it has plenty of cross-talk so it seems alive and even helpful in a lazyweb way.

    I can cut time between telephone tag sessions when my workgroup all uses Jaiku’s client because their phones tell me where they are and whether they’re available. That functionality was never designed into FriendFeed or Twitter and perhaps never should be.

    Jaiku had a team of network engineers bought out by Google. You might see their handiwork in Android but from the feel of Jaiku at the moment, only the hardcore complement still hang out and chat in Jaikustan. For many looking in from the outside, it must look like a tumbleweed town. But that kind of signal-to-noise works best for me.

  14. It’s really difficult forcing Twitter into a hole cut by Jaiku. The two services have many different wrinkles. For starters, Jaiku actually works in your pocket if you run it on a Series 60 third edition Nokia phone. Twitter doesn’t even have a back button that works but it has plenty of cross-talk so it seems alive and even helpful in a lazyweb way.

    I can cut time between telephone tag sessions when my workgroup all uses Jaiku’s client because their phones tell me where they are and whether they’re available. That functionality was never designed into FriendFeed or Twitter and perhaps never should be.

    Jaiku had a team of network engineers bought out by Google. You might see their handiwork in Android but from the feel of Jaiku at the moment, only the hardcore complement still hang out and chat in Jaikustan. For many looking in from the outside, it must look like a tumbleweed town. But that kind of signal-to-noise works best for me.

  15. Jaiku was ahead of Twitter by at least 12 months. The current rumor is that when Googel completes converting Jaiku to run on AppEngine, it will be relaunched.

    JaikuNext (my term) may also work really well with Android.

  16. Jaiku was ahead of Twitter by at least 12 months. The current rumor is that when Googel completes converting Jaiku to run on AppEngine, it will be relaunched.

    JaikuNext (my term) may also work really well with Android.