The "netbook king" smacks down Sony

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No, I’m not the netbook king. That title belongs to Sascha Pallenberg who writes NetbookNews in Germany. You can find him on Twitter @sascha_p.

I met him at the blogger party last night and I asked him about which netbook is best. He knows more about netbooks than anyone else I’ve met (I met him at Europe’s consumer electronics show in Berlin). He says the Samsung NC10 is the best and derides the new Sony that got lots of hype here at CES. But then we get into a smackdown about Windows vs. Linux and lots of other topics. Proof that you learn the most at the parties. Watch this video with Sascha and you’ll learn a ton about the netbook market.

To see the Sony that we’re talking about visit James Kendrick’s video of the Sony Vaio P.

Lots of other CES videos are on my Kyte.tv channel.

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Robert Scoble

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Comments

  1. I’ve been trying to keep up on netbooks myself and there are a few others in the states, including Kevin Tofel at jkOnTheRun and Brad at Lilliputing.

    http://www.liliputing.com/

    Definitely the Sony is not a netbook.

    And I put together what I think is a definitive list of criteria for a netbook and try to keep it current as the form is evolving.

    http://www.scripting.com/stories/2008/12/17/whatIsANetbook.html

    Also to Scoble’s readers — the reason I’m keeping up with Scoble is that I’ve added him to a new kind of Twitter feed, a “friends-of” channel that works really well, imho. Instead of aggregating tweets it aggregates blog posts.

    http://twitter.com/friendsofdave

    Bottom line: I think it’s a little early to annoint anyone the “netbook king.” :-)

  2. I’ve been trying to keep up on netbooks myself and there are a few others in the states, including Kevin Tofel at jkOnTheRun and Brad at Lilliputing.

    http://www.liliputing.com/

    Definitely the Sony is not a netbook.

    And I put together what I think is a definitive list of criteria for a netbook and try to keep it current as the form is evolving.

    http://www.scripting.com/stories/2008/12/17/whatIsANetbook.html

    Also to Scoble’s readers — the reason I’m keeping up with Scoble is that I’ve added him to a new kind of Twitter feed, a “friends-of” channel that works really well, imho. Instead of aggregating tweets it aggregates blog posts.

    http://twitter.com/friendsofdave

    Bottom line: I think it’s a little early to annoint anyone the “netbook king.” :-)

  3. I have 3 netbooks now, and I don’t agree with any of the sentiment these guys are saying..

    I am a big FAN of ACER, they just work, and I just assembled my own ATOM 230 processor based motherboard into a mini-itx case. I plan to use it long term as a Windows Home Server….

    Here’s a big shocker I installed the new latest Windows 7 ultimate (beta 1) on it, and yes I installed the x64 version and it works great (on the atom intel board I just put together).. What I learned from this experience…

    You can run 64-bit windows on a netbook and with 1 or 2 gigs (fully expanded) you really see great performance over the 32 bit version. You can also readyboost using the SD card slot for more improvement.

    I have 32 bit vista ultimate on 1 acer and it works great (it’s faster than my core 2 duo 1.6 ghz laptop I bought on Vista launch a few years ago). It has 1 gig of RAM and a 120 Gig HDD. It runs great for around 3 hours (I don’t have the six cell battery). Warcraft on it isn’t half bad after I went to intel’s website and downloaded their latest vista 945 mobile chipset drivers. It fully supports shader model 3 too..

    You need to be also interviewing folks who know Windows, not open source people. There is a lot of misinformation going round the blogosphere about the netbooks and windows..

  4. I have 3 netbooks now, and I don’t agree with any of the sentiment these guys are saying..

    I am a big FAN of ACER, they just work, and I just assembled my own ATOM 230 processor based motherboard into a mini-itx case. I plan to use it long term as a Windows Home Server….

    Here’s a big shocker I installed the new latest Windows 7 ultimate (beta 1) on it, and yes I installed the x64 version and it works great (on the atom intel board I just put together).. What I learned from this experience…

    You can run 64-bit windows on a netbook and with 1 or 2 gigs (fully expanded) you really see great performance over the 32 bit version. You can also readyboost using the SD card slot for more improvement.

    I have 32 bit vista ultimate on 1 acer and it works great (it’s faster than my core 2 duo 1.6 ghz laptop I bought on Vista launch a few years ago). It has 1 gig of RAM and a 120 Gig HDD. It runs great for around 3 hours (I don’t have the six cell battery). Warcraft on it isn’t half bad after I went to intel’s website and downloaded their latest vista 945 mobile chipset drivers. It fully supports shader model 3 too..

    You need to be also interviewing folks who know Windows, not open source people. There is a lot of misinformation going round the blogosphere about the netbooks and windows..

  5. I’m running Windows 7, XP and OSX on the NC10 and it’s really quite a solid unit. The battery and keyboard are amazing – highly recommended if you are looking for one!

  6. I’m running Windows 7, XP and OSX on the NC10 and it’s really quite a solid unit. The battery and keyboard are amazing – highly recommended if you are looking for one!

  7. Wow. I sometimes regret writing stuff like this that just doesn’t make sense.

    “I met him at the blogger party last night and I asked him about which netbook is best. He knows more about netbooks than anyone else I’ve met (I met him at Europe’s consumer electronics show in Berlin).”

    Maybe that blogger party was in Berlin. Or it was just a really good party.

  8. Wow. I sometimes regret writing stuff like this that just doesn’t make sense.

    “I met him at the blogger party last night and I asked him about which netbook is best. He knows more about netbooks than anyone else I’ve met (I met him at Europe’s consumer electronics show in Berlin).”

    Maybe that blogger party was in Berlin. Or it was just a really good party.

  9. @lexplay

    both parties were really cool ;)

    @Dave Winer

    i am just one of the guys who is covering netbooks. Brad, Kevin, Jkk and Joanna are great cooperation partners and networkers, i really need to communicate with, nearly all day long.

    We are sharing our little kingdoms and this is what it’s all about. I would never be in such a position without these great experts on the netbook and mobile computing market.

    It’s just a title Robert made up, which is of course fun but believe me guys, i would never say, i am the netbook king…
    i just have the hottest netbook “behind the scene” news most of the time ;)

  10. @lexplay

    both parties were really cool ;)

    @Dave Winer

    i am just one of the guys who is covering netbooks. Brad, Kevin, Jkk and Joanna are great cooperation partners and networkers, i really need to communicate with, nearly all day long.

    We are sharing our little kingdoms and this is what it’s all about. I would never be in such a position without these great experts on the netbook and mobile computing market.

    It’s just a title Robert made up, which is of course fun but believe me guys, i would never say, i am the netbook king…
    i just have the hottest netbook “behind the scene” news most of the time ;)

  11. I have been running an NC10 owners community site for a few months now and the feedback from the forum members has been very positive. This little machine (imo) is one of the first of its class to be a truly fully usable mobile PC.

    By that I mean that the keyboard is large enough and arranged appropriately to type on comfortably, the screen resolution is big enough to view apps correctly. The performance is strong enough to run all the apps any average mobile user would generally want to use. And the battery life is good enough to last a few days on the move without having to ration usage.

    There isn’t actually much more I would want from a netbook. I’ll be upgrading again once touchscreen has matured!

  12. I have been running an NC10 owners community site for a few months now and the feedback from the forum members has been very positive. This little machine (imo) is one of the first of its class to be a truly fully usable mobile PC.

    By that I mean that the keyboard is large enough and arranged appropriately to type on comfortably, the screen resolution is big enough to view apps correctly. The performance is strong enough to run all the apps any average mobile user would generally want to use. And the battery life is good enough to last a few days on the move without having to ration usage.

    There isn’t actually much more I would want from a netbook. I’ll be upgrading again once touchscreen has matured!

  13. 2 things I love about netbooks.

    1- they will make personal computing personal again (not like HP)
    2- they will make notebooks’ prices a little more affordable.

    Cheers!

  14. 2 things I love about netbooks.

    1- they will make personal computing personal again (not like HP)
    2- they will make notebooks’ prices a little more affordable.

    Cheers!

  15. what I think is a definitive list of criteria for a netbook

    And #9 being “Windows XP”? Ugh. Lucky for anyone who has run Easy Peasy, this is hardly the case. And who’s to say a netbook needs an Atom? If they could pack a modded Core i7 and Fuel Cells, well hey. I think the only thing that the market will decide makes a netbook, a netbook, is the size, one half a laptop.

    But give it some time, and laptop’s will shrink, blurring the entire concept of a “netbook”. Netbook is just a larva stage, in between a full laptop and a PDA, eventually you will get full laptop functionality with major SSD storage, in the netbook size. And then what’s a “netbook” then? Nothing.

  16. what I think is a definitive list of criteria for a netbook

    And #9 being “Windows XP”? Ugh. Lucky for anyone who has run Easy Peasy, this is hardly the case. And who’s to say a netbook needs an Atom? If they could pack a modded Core i7 and Fuel Cells, well hey. I think the only thing that the market will decide makes a netbook, a netbook, is the size, one half a laptop.

    But give it some time, and laptop’s will shrink, blurring the entire concept of a “netbook”. Netbook is just a larva stage, in between a full laptop and a PDA, eventually you will get full laptop functionality with major SSD storage, in the netbook size. And then what’s a “netbook” then? Nothing.

  17. Sorry Christopher but i have to disagree on all the points you are mentioning…

    Easy Peasy, no way that you ever tried this out cause otherwise you wouldn’t jump on the marketing train of this screwed up little distro. I seriously loved the the Ubuntu Eee project and i still think they are offering one of the best customized kernels available…
    But thats its. Without a touchscreen this frontend adds not extra value.. This is all about the style and unfortunately not about substance… well in terms of usability.

    I hope you don’t mind, that i am not picking on the Core i7 and Fuel Cell thing which tells a little about your wrong idea of a netbook.

    PDA? Seriously? These things are still available. Let’s get retro, gonna fire up my xscale powered Toshiba 330 again tomorrow, seems like i just missed something.

    What has a huge SSD to do with a full laptop functionality? I am just not getting it.

    Netbooks are devices with a screensize from 7 to 10.2 inch and at a price range underneath $500. Thats how the consumer defines a netbook and thank god, not a single manufacturer can convince us of something different.
    They are not meant to be your number one production device but they offer enough performance for 95% of my everyday tasks.

    i think the consumer is speaking out very loud that they want cheap devices they can carry around all day long. You can’t fool the average user with this Ghz race anymore, they want customized devices for their specific needs.

    And guess what this need is. Yeah, you got it: surfing the internet! There are people surfing the web with a 4Ghz cpu, oh well there are also people driving with their 5,6l Hemi engine around the block to get some cigarettes.

    but somehow i have the feeling that this is changing ;)

  18. Sorry Christopher but i have to disagree on all the points you are mentioning…

    Easy Peasy, no way that you ever tried this out cause otherwise you wouldn’t jump on the marketing train of this screwed up little distro. I seriously loved the the Ubuntu Eee project and i still think they are offering one of the best customized kernels available…
    But thats its. Without a touchscreen this frontend adds not extra value.. This is all about the style and unfortunately not about substance… well in terms of usability.

    I hope you don’t mind, that i am not picking on the Core i7 and Fuel Cell thing which tells a little about your wrong idea of a netbook.

    PDA? Seriously? These things are still available. Let’s get retro, gonna fire up my xscale powered Toshiba 330 again tomorrow, seems like i just missed something.

    What has a huge SSD to do with a full laptop functionality? I am just not getting it.

    Netbooks are devices with a screensize from 7 to 10.2 inch and at a price range underneath $500. Thats how the consumer defines a netbook and thank god, not a single manufacturer can convince us of something different.
    They are not meant to be your number one production device but they offer enough performance for 95% of my everyday tasks.

    i think the consumer is speaking out very loud that they want cheap devices they can carry around all day long. You can’t fool the average user with this Ghz race anymore, they want customized devices for their specific needs.

    And guess what this need is. Yeah, you got it: surfing the internet! There are people surfing the web with a 4Ghz cpu, oh well there are also people driving with their 5,6l Hemi engine around the block to get some cigarettes.

    but somehow i have the feeling that this is changing ;)